A piece I wrote after I told a few people I was born in Germany, their immediate response was “Heil Hitler” even though I was only there for the first two weeks of my life.

This is a small piece of work on birth places which infuriates me. It does so because I happened to be born in a British Military Hospital (Rinteln) in Germany because my father made a decision to serve our country, to be commanded where to live and what to do. Apparently, because I was born in Germany it makes me a German, even though I lived there for a very short period of my life before moving to Woodbridge in England.

After that, I have lived in England my entire life apart from the one or two years spent in Northern Ireland. I speak English but not German, none of my relatives were born in Germany or speak German so I suppose that means that I ‘am’ German. I don’t think so, however, everyone else seems to think so and sometimes individuals take it as far as calling me a Nazi and sending me pictures of Hitler by e-mail. Mature? I don’t think so.

It all started in the golden years, back in year four at Dry Sandford School in Oxfordshire. I made the mistake of telling my friends that I was born in BMH Rinteln, Germany and I didn’t hear the end of it. My father made a sacrifice to be told what to do and where to live so he was forced to go to Germany with my mother. During those two years he was stationed there I happened to be born, in a British Military Hospital. Not many people understand the word British so I will, there’s a big blob of land above France and you know what? It’s called Britain. Something that belongs to Britain, apart of Britain, made in Britain etc is British therefore that hospital was a British hospital.

I lived on a British camp after my birth for a month or two before we were told that we would be moving back to England where I have lived for 14 years. I speak the language, my dad was born here and currently serves his country and has done for twenty years, and I have bloody English flags and know all the words to God Save the Queen (originally named God Save the King) for god’s sake. On another note, people who use the Hitler insults are going against their own dumb logic because Hitler was born in Austria and lived there for 24 years. However, you we still think of Hitler as being German and he was in his birth country a hell of a lot longer then me, about one hundred times longer in fact.

But just because you were born in some country that isn’t where you currently live does that make you of that nationality? In my opinion, no it does not. This is because several other factors have to be taken into account like, for example the places you have lived, the language you speak, your relative’s origins and attributes etc. You’ve also got to remember that BMH Rinteln is BRITISH.

So to top off the argument…I was born in Germany yes, that does not however, make me a German and I wish some people could realise how insulting it is to be called a nationality that you’re not. To support my side of this argument I have lived in England for ninety percent of my life so far, I speak English and only English, I have been educated in England and I have no relatives in any other European country. So the next time you’re thinking of insulting me or any other British citizen in my position about their country of birth, think once, think twice, and then shove off (to put it kindly).

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  • Stevo on Jul 21, 2009

    When I read this it was though I’d written it!! I too was born in BMH Rinteln as my dad was stationed there, and we moved back to the UK a year later. But when people hear about this they always say something like “so you speak good German then” or “so you’re a German citizen then?” Errr….no!

  • Lin on Jul 25, 2009

    My daughter was born in BMH Iserlohn 17 years ago, but we moved back to England when she was only about 5 months old. She is going to university next year and was trying to fill in her UCAS application form online, however, one of the questions is place of birth, to which she has to answer Germany, then they want to know the exact date she arrived in England! Well I remember it was August, but not what day. How ridiculous when she has a british birth certificate and passport!

  • Barb on Aug 9, 2009

    I was born in BMH Hamburg in 1948 to a British soldier and his German wife – in Germany at Army school I was accepted for who I was – when I eventually returned to England in 1960 and went to secondary school in Gravesend I was subjected to all sorts of insults, including the Sieg Heils, Nazi and even being stuck with pins in needlework class! Apparently the girls had gone home to tell their arents and (being only 15 years after the end of the War) their fathers told them to ignore me, which they did, so that I spent almost an entire year in isolation and not being talked to, ignored totally – I don’t blame the girls really, but their ignorant fathers. Anyway, come the British Nationality Act in the 1980s I had to write to the Home Office to assure myself that I was indeed British, or become stateless as has happened to some poor unfortunates. I had a letter back from the Home Office assuring me that as technically I had been born I was British born and bred. However, that could not undo the years of misery inflicted on me at school, and even today with the fatuous Jeremy Clarkson and his vile anti German rants it seems no one learns! I am British and proud of it, but I also have German relatives, and having married a serviceman myself in 1975, the MOD sent an Admiral to interview me because I had German relatives.

  • Maz on Aug 12, 2009

    Hi,

    I was born in B.M.H. Rinteln in 1974, then my dad was posted to Northern Ireland when I was 9 months.

    I now live in Newcastle.

    I got loads of stick at school for being born in Germany when people found out, and even older teens in my village called me Nazi when they heard.

    At school sometimes there would be 4 or 5 together chanting thiings, which makes me very weary now (and I’m 34) to tell people where I was born. I sometimes tell them Kent, as that is where I lived from the age of 2 to 5.

    I have a British birth certificate, and a British passport. My dad told me that if I hadn’t been registered British within a certain time period then I would have been classed as German. but because I was registered British then I am British.

    I went on a stag weekend in Berlin in 2004, and passport control at Berlin Schoenofeld airport showed each other my passport and said to me “It says here you were born in Rinteln.”

    I explained that my father was in the British Army and stationed near Rinteln (I think Hameln).

  • david on Dec 15, 2009

    i was born there aswell in 1973, and allso got called at school. im trying to track down my birth certificate atm with no luck

  • michelle batho on Nov 15, 2010

    i was born in bmh rinteln hospital germany.in1975 .both my parents are british my dad was in the army.we left to come to britain in 1979 when i was 4 i am now 35 applied for passport for my son they said no evidence to say i have ever claimed british citizenship i dont understan they said it serious and being passed on to be investigated,my birth certificate says birth within the district of the british consul general at hanover.so dont understand how i not british i worried about this can anyone shed any light on this matter please shellyxx

  • Ellie Chapman on Feb 24, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln, Germany in 1996 in the British military hospital and lived there for 3 months before my Father got ‘posted’ back to England where we lived In a Army camp in Upavon for 13 years and then moved to netheravon army camp for a further 2 years. But luckily people i go to school with dont relly care with the fact i was born in Germany, But i to when going on holiday through passport patrol through Isreal got stopped and asked about my Birth Place and was espeacilly scary as all the people had Guns and weapons all on them staring at me like i was filth :/ Gladly nothing was made of this matter :) xxx

  • Ellie Chapman on Feb 24, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln, Germany in 1996 in the British military hospital and lived there for 3 months before my Father got \’posted\’ back to England where we lived In a Army camp in Upavon for 13 years and then moved to netheravon army camp for a further 2 years. But luckily people i go to school with dont relly care with the fact i was born in Germany, But i to when going on holiday through passport patrol through Isreal got stopped and asked about my Birth Place and was espeacilly scary as all the people had Guns and weapons all on them staring at me like i was filth :/ Gladly nothing was made of this matter :) xxx

  • Ellie Chapman on Feb 24, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln, Germany in 1996 in the British military hospital and lived there for 3 months before my Father got \’posted\’ back to England where we lived In a Army camp in Upavon for 13 years and then moved to netheravon army camp for a further 2 years. But luckily people i go to school with dont relly care with the fact i was born in Germany, But i to when going on holiday through passport patrol through Isreal got stopped and asked about my Birth Place and was espeacilly scary as all the people had Guns and weapons all on them staring at me like i was filth :/ Gladly nothing was made of this matter :) xxx

  • Ellie Chapman on Feb 24, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln, Germany in 1996 in the British military hospital and lived there for 3 months before my Father got \\\’posted\\\’ back to England where we lived In a Army camp in Upavon for 13 years and then moved to netheravon army camp for a further 2 years. But luckily people i go to school with dont relly care with the fact i was born in Germany, But i to when going on holiday through passport patrol through Isreal got stopped and asked about my Birth Place and was espeacilly scary as all the people had Guns and weapons all on them staring at me like i was filth :/ Gladly nothing was made of this matter :) xxx

  • Ellie Chapman on Feb 24, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln, Germany in 1996 in the British military hospital and lived there for 3 months before my Father got \\\’posted\\\’ back to England where we lived In a Army camp in Upavon for 13 years and then moved to netheravon army camp for a further 2 years. But luckily people i go to school with dont relly care with the fact i was born in Germany, But i to when going on holiday through passport patrol through Isreal got stopped and asked about my Birth Place and was espeacilly scary as all the people had Guns and weapons all on them staring at me like i was filth :/ Gladly nothing was made of this matter :) xxx

  • Ellie Chapman on Feb 24, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln, Germany in 1996 in the British military hospital and lived there for 3 months before my Father got \\\’posted\\\’ back to England where we lived In a Army camp in Upavon for 13 years and then moved to netheravon army camp for a further 2 years. But luckily people i go to school with dont relly care with the fact i was born in Germany, But i to when going on holiday through passport patrol through Isreal got stopped and asked about my Birth Place and was espeacilly scary as all the people had Guns and weapons all on them staring at me like i was filth :/ Gladly nothing was made of this matter :) xxx

  • Ellie Chapman on Feb 24, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln, Germany in 1996 in the British military hospital and lived there for 3 months before my Father got \\\’posted\\\’ back to England where we lived In a Army camp in Upavon for 13 years and then moved to netheravon army camp for a further 2 years. But luckily people i go to school with dont relly care with the fact i was born in Germany, But i to when going on holiday through passport patrol through Isreal got stopped and asked about my Birth Place and was espeacilly scary as all the people had Guns and weapons all on them staring at me like i was filth :/ Gladly nothing was made of this matter :) xxx

  • Ellie Chapman on Feb 24, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln, Germany in 1996 in the British military hospital and lived there for 3 months before my Father got \\\’posted\\\’ back to England where we lived In a Army camp in Upavon for 13 years and then moved to netheravon army camp for a further 2 years. But luckily people i go to school with dont relly care with the fact i was born in Germany, But i to when going on holiday through passport patrol through Isreal got stopped and asked about my Birth Place and was espeacilly scary as all the people had Guns and weapons all on them staring at me like i was filth :/ Gladly nothing was made of this matter :) xxx

  • Gareth on Mar 11, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln Gemarny Hosptail

  • Gareth James Cottee on Mar 11, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln Germany in 1989.

  • Gareth Cottee on Mar 11, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln Germany in 1989.

  • Adam Smith on Apr 4, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln 1977. Had the same old jokes even though I was there for only 2 months. My parents heard the news Elvis had died as they were driving back to the UK. I\’m off to Berlin next month for a city break and really fancy taking a train out to visit the area, it looks beautiful from some of the pics.

  • Adam Smith on Apr 4, 2012

    I was born in Rinteln 1977. Had the same old jokes even though I was there for only 2 months. My parents heard the news Elvis had died as they were driving back to the UK. I\’m off to Berlin next month for a city break and really fancy taking a train out to visit the area, it looks beautiful from some of the pics.

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