Can’t wait for the next installment of The Return Trilogy? Enjoy this teaser now.
News Update: L.J. Smith Was Fired
L.J. Smith recently released the first book in the Vampire Diaries the Return series (also becoming well known as “Damon’s Trilogy”) titled NightFall. This new series focusing more on “bad boy” Damon delves into the darkest corners of the characters mind and then amplifies them with demonic possession in NightFall. Throughout this first book Damon terrorizes all of the humans he once cared about due to his possession…and yet we often see glimpses of the real Damon as he fights the demons within for control. Who will ultimately win? Can Damon make amends and find salvation in the 2nd book of “Damon’s Trilogy” Shadow Souls?
A question I’m dying to ask the author….will Damon choose Elena or Bonnie? I’m personally rooting for Bonnie; I think she needs a strapping hot vampire to care for her…among other things.
I’ve titled this article Shadow Souls teaser because I do in fact have a teaser for you. With many emails and a little patience L.J. Smith has given me an awesome teaser to share with my readers. I’m still pushing for an interview so cross your fingers and wish me luck!
“Tears
A Teaser for Vampire Diaries: Shadow Souls
Elena and Damon reached the motel room just after midnight.
“What’s wrong?” Elena sat on the bed, swinging up her legs to support her head on a pillow which sank beneath her unsatisfactorily. She liked her pillows firm.
“Nothing.” Damon was at the window, pretending to be engrossed in something beyond the shrubbery outside.
“What nothing?”
Damon shook his head.
Elena examined the room with the too-bright vision of the seriously sleep-impaired. She must not have really slept at all last night on her out of body adventure to see Stefan, she thought. She contemplated beige walls, beige carpet, a beige armchair, a beige desk, and of course, a beige bedspread. Even Damon couldn’t reject a room on the grounds that it doesn’t match his basic black, she thought, and then: oh, I’m tired. And frightened. And irritable.
And stupid. There’s only one bed.
“Damon . . . “ With an effort, she rolled over and sat up. “What do you want?” she said. “There’s a chair. I can sleep on the chair.”
OMG!!!!! Now i wanna read it.
Now its prolly gunna bug me until i read the book and find out what that secret is. I have a feeling i know what it is…but i dont think its right. So..
i cant wait!
OMFG!!! I am completely speechless!! I am soo excited to get and read this book. And I am soo happy that it is Damon’s turn!! YAYYY!
Hey, thanks so much for the teaser, is there any way I can subscribe to you for more information?
Thanks again (:
xxx
OMG, Does anybody know when this will be out. I just have to find out what the secret is!!! I think i know, but it could be so many things.
am i the only one clueless to what the secret might be?? and when DOES this come out?
OMG! I wanna read the book so badly now!! I hope there are more sneak peeks coming! I cant wait until the book comes out! IM DYING HERE!!
Is this from the real author? Oh and if it is im dying to know how the book is going to be!!! I really want to find out her secret!
SPEECHLESS!!! lol i dont even have a guess to what the secret is!!
i thought i like stefan better but i changed my mind. she needs to be with Damon
shes loves him thats the secret
I want to read this so much!!! Any idea of what the secret is? I have an idea but i’m not sure.
I’m so excited for this book!! I’ve already got it pre-ordered. The Return was good, but also disappointing in some aspects but I have faith that Shadow Souls will redeem that. Waiting patiently…
Although i wasn’t thaaaat excited about the first trilogy, the next two books were breathtaking… I can’t wait for the shadow souls to be out…
As for the secret, i believe it is the knowledge that his brother Stefan and Elena, have express their love, by exchanging blood, and not physically, as man and woman….And that’s why Damon was taken by surprise.. I hope he gets the girl…
omg i think the secret is that elenas a virgin
ooooo and it comes out february 9th 2010
OMG ITS GONNA TAKE FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but yea i think thats the secret and i kno thats when its out
so hope i helped
Damn! Why can\’t i know what he knows that she knows that he knows? I now have to wait for months to read HoN 6 AND this! Why???? But that doesn\’t mean i dont like it. Im just annoyed it doesn\’t come out tomorrow
OMG!!!! I so totally speechless. But I have to disagree with some people. I think that Stefan and Elena belong together and that Damon and Bonnie belong together but thats just my opinion
I though the book came out later this year not February next year:@ Anyway can’t wait I am soooooooo excited
:):)
WOW!!! this just seems to get better as it goes along. i agree with alisha though i think that stefan and elena belong together and damon and bonnie. its really bugging me about the secret though does anybody know the actual release date of the book?
xx claudia xx
OMG!!
Incredible!! I just can’t wait to read this book!!I love Elena-Damon couple even i know that Elena and Stefan belong together.
And about the secret I also think that Elena’s a Virgin but the real mystery is… Who will be the first?
to this step…
the first to what?
i NEED to know what the secret is
as much as i’d like to think its that elena loves damon, that can’t be it because damon knows what elena IS…
ohh. thanks for telling me.
im pretty sure its feb 9 2010 and the 3rd will be later in 2010.
but some places say its august 7 2009. im just gonna try to believe that its feb 9 so i wont get my hopes up…though my hopes probably will go up anyway…
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DAMON/ELENA = LOVE lmaoooo GOOD GOD THAT WAS HOT. I’M SOOO READING THIS.
no matter how close Damon&Bonnie get there is no way they could be this hot man…LOL
well…there IS a connection, but who will she choose?
OMG soooo looking forward to this!! i really hope its august 7th!! I really want to read it!! And i think i know what the secret is! But i also think its wrong…
And is there anyway this site can get a preview of ‘Tempted’ from the house of night series? Just a random question…
But i really want this book NOW!!! lol
omg this book is gonna be amazing . && yeahh her secret is prolly her still being a virgin or her secertly lovin’ Damon . && this comes out this year not nxt year . The Vampire Diaries: The Return: Midnight comes out in 2010 .
when exactly in 2010 does The Vampire Diaries: The Return: Midnight come out?
If you think about Damon’s reaction… I don’t think he’d react that way if he just found out Elena is a virgin. I think he’d be more amused. And also, how could he find out she was a virgin by just tasting her tears?
it might not have something to do with her tears…well it probably does…
besides, how would he find out ANYTHING by JUST tasting her tears?
well dont forget she\’s still got those angelic powers so i\’m sure he could probably taste something in her tears
HAHA im pretty darn sure it come out in february 2010
because amazon.com has the release date and i have the book pre-ordered so if it does come out this year amazon is wrong and i get my book sooner.
So Ive seen the trailer for the show and Im dissapointed.
Meredith will not be in the show. Bonnie is suppose to have red curly hair and she doesnt in the show and Elena is suppose to be blond not brunette??? Since when did someone at the boarding house know what Stefan was or that a man other than him was living there?What is going on? Why arent they staying true to the book????
I love the book series but I hope the show doesnt ruin for anyone ya know?? I just hate when my book series gets turned into a show or movie and doesnt stay true to it. It ruins it for me.
cool!!!
i TOTALLY agree with you, vanessa wheeler. everything you accused the directors of was right…i still want to see the show, though…
OhMyGhod.!
I just started reading these books and i finished them in a day each and i’m super excited. i think she and Damon belong together but its obvious shes gonna choose Stefan.
nw
when you think about damon needing elena, you know they’re supposed to be together, but when you think about stefan and how he needs her, she needs to be with him too.
*gasp!
i just read this and thought it was great! i cant wait
and i totaly agree that the secret is that damon found out that elena is still a virgin and that nothing happend btween elena and stefan in the cemetary!
grrr im so mad this book is coming out till feb.9.2010
CANT WAIT!
I really hope Elena and Damon go together! They r purfect 4 each other! I think the secret is that Elena is a virgin also but one person on the list does have a point…If Damon found out she was a virgin I also think he would be more amused…but maybe I\’m wrong. After all, they are in a room with only one bed…
OMG! It totally makes sense… Everybody knows vampires prefer blood of virgins because they say it tastes better… so Damon probably realized it by tasting of her tears.
I really hope he\’ll be her first… But unfortunately, I think Elena will regret and Stefan will forgive her…
In my opinion, she should do like Katherine and choose both
i think she will choose both, but damon and stefan will have learned to get along better so they’ll respect the choice and accept it.
HOLY CRAP!omg omg omg i want more!feb 9,2010 is just to long for my patience to last.dude i wanna know her secret!!!and wheres matt?OMFG i cant wait to read this!
ps:way to go!now im craving this book even more than before!niceee
pss:Tita Mirra,
elenas not a virgin!her and stefan did it in NightFall remember?so its abvioiusly not that.maybe elena is a..shadowed soul.makes sence with the title and all.but we gonna wait for a few more months sadly
Is Elena pregnant?
Why on Earth would you think that?
I agree with you, gg, why would you think that, courtney?
Oh and I don’t rememeber Stefan and Elena sleeping together, rahima. When did that happen?
they slept together in nightfall but that was only sleeping. they didn’t do it.
OMG! I love damon/elena *.* They are so cute, since the first book I have think they should be together *.* CAN´T WAIT
me to, bells. me to.
damon and elena need each other but stefan and elena want each other .
i never thought of it that way, alyssa, but your right…
This book sounds good! I’m still rooting Bonnie/Damon though.
Im all for Damon and Bonnie!!!
I think Elena and Stefan are perfect for eachother! This book sounds good though.
bonnie & damon= <3
the way he protects her and thinks of her as his little bird without question they belong together
I agree that Elena and Damon need each other but her and Stefan want each other…I can’t decide who I like her better with. One time I’ll think its Stefan but then her and Damon show this connection they have…but I do not think he should be with Bonnie. Bonnie and Matt should so be together. Matt needs someone who wants him! He deserves that after everything he’s been through.
i agree with everything you just said allie
I totally agree with allie. Matt and Bonnie should be together… they’re so cute when they’re holding hands!! And i think Elena is going to choose both but after a moment she will realize that she wants Stefan (just like Katherine), But she definitively need Damon and i need to see her with him … it’s so passionate between them!
i totally agree with you
what gg said
Bonnie and Damon
Elena and Stefan
..it’s what it should be without question.Damon in some way NEEDS Bonnie (his little bird) to protect her and feel that way.Elena can’t deny her feelings for Damon, but she seems more “in love” with Stefan, more of a healthier stronger relationship
Matt and Mer. are just sort of “to be there friends” if you know what i mean … they are their best friends
What happened to the whole Meredith and Alaric thing? Plus I can’t see Meredith and Matt together.
NNNOOO!!!!! Bonnie and Damon should be together!
Elena is attracted to Damon but she does not love him like she does Stefan I think the reason the she”s attracted is because he has this bad boy thing going and what girl isn’t attracted to that besides Damon really does care for Bonnie and as proof if u haven’t yet go to ljane smith website and go to stories at the very end there is like a short story of how Damon really met Bonnie for the first time
Sorry but I don’t agree with you, Spitfire.
Me either. I think it is quite obvious that Elena and Damons relationship isn’t simply “attraction”. Through the books L.J. throws in many hints about Bonnie and Damon, but honestly there are a ton more to prove his love for Elena. Nightfall was what made it evident for me, as I was an undecided fan until then (Bonnie and Damon, or Elena and Damon?) And especially after reading this, there is not doubt in my mind that Damon and Elena truly need each other. Stil, I can’t see L.J breaking up Stefan and Elena. Dissapointing, but I have a feeling thats how it will end.
Matt and Bonnie should be together. Matt needs to get over Elena, and Bonnie seems like the perfect girl for him.
I agree with you, Sarah. I mostly saw hints about Damon and Bonnie in Dark Reuion when Elena wasn’t there to keep Damon’s attention.
Exactly, I always found these hints more of a subtle, “I’ve got nothing to do but your cute” kind of deal. Bonnie thought that Damon was good looking, and she’s fairly meek and easy to pray on. I won’t deny that L.J dropped hints about Bonnie and Damon, i’m not naive. But don’t think a Bonnie/Damon relationship would work. Don’t get me wrong, I to am intrigued by the idea of opposites attract, a sweet innocent girl with a hard cold vampire. Still, Damon needs someone who is kindhearted but willing to stick up to him. Someone who will push him. Elena is the only person who can do that, she and Damon need each other.
These are all just my own personal opinions, so please don’t come knocking on my door with baseball bats and pitchforks.
He could taste the virginity in her tears, but not her blood? That doesn’t make sense to me.
lol
i never thought of it that way, kehacakes
OMG!!!!!!! I CAN NOT WAIT!!! I’M SO EXCITED!! I SO WHAT ELENA TO BE WITH DAMON!!!!!! I’M SUCKER FOR A BAD-ASS WHO CAN BE GOOD TO!!
OMFG!!! I can’t wait till this book comes out I really love this series. I am having a really hard time choosing between the brothers. They both have qualities that I like. Damon with his bad ass attitude that gets me every time! but then there’s Stefan who is sweet and loving….very hard to choose!!!!
OMG?!?!? I NEED to read this book xD
OMG! U people r making me want to read this book sooooo bad! I also think like one person up there. I think L.J.Smith will end up breaking up Elena and Stephan and she will make Elena go with Damon! I really am counting on that ending cuz that would be a happy ending to me!
That would be what I want but chances are that won’t happen. We can dream though.
I think Elena will stay with Stefan. I only think Elena is having these feelings for Damon here because she really misses Stefan and she needs comfort. If Elena ends up with Damon, it will break my heart ! I really want Damon and Bonnie to end up together. I can’t wait for this book now !
damon and bonnie do NOT belong together. they care for each other, but more in a brother/sister way. i dont know who elena will end up with. i actually think that she will pick both like katherine and damon and stefan will have learned and will accept the choice. bonnie and matt should be together.
When I think of a Bonnie/Damon relationship, Instead of actually seeing the two end up together as a COUPLE (which I couldn’t see possibley working) I think it would work with the story better to have Damon realizing not just that he cares for Bonnie, but that he really does care for humans in general (as a broader and more powerful sudden realization) and having this care of humans stem from his kindness towards Bonnie. I hope that wasn’t to confusing XD
Still don’t like the Idea of a Bonnie/Damon relationship. Hoping that Elena and Damon get some hot air time soon on the show
Elena is attracted to Damon on more than just a physical level. She was the one that commented on his aura as ‘a hard dark shell’ because deep down she suspects the compassion and tenderness that is below the surface.
I think the author will delve into Damon’s deepest and darkest secrets in the coming book with Elena as the instigator for his transformation. She will draw him out.
But ultimately her soul, the very essence of her being already belongs to Stefan.
I definintely picked up on the none to subtle hints about Damon and Bonnie’s feelings toward one another. There is something in that, which, if the author explores could be very passionate and thrilling on a whole new level. Damon has so many dimensions to his personality. After all who doesn’t love a bad boy being tamed?
Love the series. Can’t wait!
OMG THAT WAS SO AMAZING i cant wait til it comes out now!!!
but its so weird with the whole love triangle thing both of them!
i kinda think that the whole bonnie damon thing doesnt work i mean what about matt? thats another triangle too … weird
plus stefan will like kill himself if elena goes for damon…
poor stefan
but cant wait!!!!!! x]
Well, I actually think Matt and Bonnie belong together BECAUSE on L. J. Smith’s website, there are 2 short stories. Read both of them carefully. On the Bonnie & Damon one, Damon says that she was like a child. On the Elena & Matt one, the fortune teller says that Matt belongs with a half-woman, half-child (Bonnie) AFTER he gets over Elena.
And of course, as much as I’d like to think Elena and Damon should be together, I don’t think the author would make it like that. ( Although I would be extremely pleased about it if she does
) Can’t wait for February!
Yes, I agree. Matt needs to get over Elena (although that would be an interesting twist, Matt ending up with Elena…hmmm XD, you never know) and Bonnie is perfect for him. Im crossing my fingers, toes, (practially everything that can be crossed) that Elena will end up with Damon (but i’m not delusional, I honestly don’t think it’s going to happen.) Stefan and Elena belong together, trust me, i’m saying it begrudgingly, but we all know it’s true -_- LJ won’t break them up. Still, I feel like Damon needs Elena more than his brother. Damon may be the stronger vampire, but he’s not the stronger person, he really needs her. She is the only person who ever tries (and succeeds) to break down his barriers, to try and understand him, to dig deeper! She challenges him, and vice versa.
OMG I love Damon and Elena belong together she is the only one that can handle Damon and she would bring the good out of him! I hope they get together
ughhh this secret is going to kill me untill i read the book i actually like it better if damon and elena were a couple they fit each other better XD
WOW! Thanks for posting this! I loved reading it.
I just finished the first part of Dark Reunion and was very depressed that Damon lost his memory. I agree with everyone who thinks Damon and Elena belong together, but I doubt it will ever happen(Still hoping though!). I am a firm believer that the first guy that a girl falls in love with, in a book, should be the one she ends up with in the end. For Damon though, I have to make an exception. With Stefan, Elena fell in love a little TOO quickly. I mean, LJ barely touched on the emotional stuff between them. Personally, it feels like she really makes Elena and Damon connect on a deeper level. For some reason, I really liked Damon from the start! He just seems more REAL than Stefan. I can’t wait for the next book, and am still hoping for Elena and Damon to end up together!
Oh and Bonnie and Damon, to me, are just what Sarah said. Bonnie represents the acceptance of humans that Damon is just starting to feel. If anything, Bonnie teaches Damon that humans are worth something more than to just eat. It’s just the beginning for him…..
WOW! thank you so much for posting this.
I can’t decide who I like better. Stefan and Elena or Damon and Elena? I REALLY love Stefan & Elena and I find them adorable in the show too. I won’t deny it. I do think Elena has feelings for Damon too. But I think it’s more that she is missing Stefan & she just wants someone. But I do,at times, really love D& E. I CAN’T CHOOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can not wait until Feb. 2010!
Girls. I don’t know what are u thinking about that, but between LJ Smith has said that the end of this trilogy will surpise us, and that the relationship between Elena and Damon is only beggining to become deeper, I think that this love triangle will finish in and Elena/Damon relationship, or else, LJ Smith will amazing us with and Stefan/Elena/Damon end (I really hope it ^^).
Because I don’t think that a Damon/Bonnie relationship will work and even though how much I like Elena and Damon couple, I really won’t like if Elena leaves Stefan.
I´m very undecised. And Damon just can’t finish alone, because if it so happens (If Eena leaves hin -.-) he will really become bad.
So, I hope that will finish in this way:
-Stefan/Elena/Damon (I can dream…)
-Bonnie/Matt(Very possible)
-Meredith/Alaric
-And what about Caroline???
And Sarah, I’m totally agree with you, Damon needs Elena more than Stefan, he’s the stronger vampire, but not the stronger person.
PD: Excuse me for my bad english, I’m Spanish and I’m still learning -.-
I have read all your comments and read the passage about a hundred times… and I have concluded a couple things:
They are in a hotel room, Elena is a virgin….
“A kiss is just a kiss” meaning that she was never EASY, as Caroline said, with Stefan. And Damon realizes that through through her tears… now, since they are in a hotel room…. a one bed hotel room… THERE IS A REASON THE AUTHOR MENTIONED THAT
…. or else she would not have mentioned it…. I think she cut it off just before they have sex…..
Thats just my opinion though…. I would love that to happen… seeing Elena’s virginity being taken away by Damon would be equivalent to how Elena strips Damon of his virgin ways of thinking of (as in stops him from being bad).
Anyway… that is just my opinion.
AND, as someone said… LJ said that the ending was going to surprise us… I always thought that Stefan/Katherine were perfect for each other while Damon/Elena are perfect for each other…. maybe…somehow… that will happen??
*Crossing my fingers*
I think that this book is gonna be soo exciting! the show is really awesome! in my opinion i think that stefan is better looking than damon so elena should pick him. WHY ISNT MERIDETH IN THE SHOW?! THAT TOTALLY SUX anywayz cant wait 4 feb. 9, 2010
*ELENA & STEFAN*
MATT & BONNIE
MERIDETH & ALARIC
DAMON AND CAROLINE
1. “Midnight–out 2010. Elena must face the most important question of her life: who does she really belong with? Stefan or Damon?”
copied from the author’s site (http://www.ljanesmith.net/booklist.php)
So we know it’s not gonna be Matt (although Elena is half-woman, half-child).
2. What is she? I have no idea! I do think she is a virgin but I don’t think it matters. There is something in her tears that is not in her blood. In Nightfall there is this moment when she’s crying and Stefan catches her tears “with a tissue as if each one was priceless”. Now I may be reading to much into this, but I don’t think so. I think Stefan also knows something.
She is something that makes Damon happy, something that has no agonizing pull over him. He can kiss her now without despair, without wanting more. Not to hurt Stefan, not to seduce her into blood-letting or sex. Just to kiss her.
It probably has something to do with her kissing people in order to know them and heal them. Now what spices communicates through kissing alone? Because he is not telling her what she is, he’s kissing her what she is.
Now the agonizing part for me is: there is a difference between him knowing versus him knowing that she knows he knows. I don’t get the difference!
And also does she herself know what she is?
umm…aleksandra, thats a little complicated…
Yeah
I just read the series in a weeks time. I loved Elena and Stefan but I have fallen into the Damon trap. I would rather see her end up with both of them in the end. It seems to me she gets something different from both of them. She says it herself Stefan is her lynchpen and Damon is the fire beneath her wings. I sooooo hope they make love in shadow souls. Seems like in Damon\\\’s life Stefan usually wins out, Fathers love, Katherines love, and til now Elenas love. I don\\\’t like the idea at all of a Damon Bonnie relationship, The author has engraved it into the books how much Damon loves Elena even though the words haven\\\’t been spoken. Even Stefan knows Damon loves her. So a Bonnie Damon hook up would not be believeable in my eyes. Bonnie should be with Matt he deserves a girl too.
I should also say there are some hints in the book too. 1) Damon is constantly saying Elena was MEANT to be his. 2) He sends out that telepathic message when shes in the tree that says: tonight is the best night of my life.(that would exclude Bonnie in my opinion) 3)He says he knows shes still got power in her even though noone else believes it(and we find out she does) so it seems like Damon is very intune with Elena. I just truly believe he has to be with her too for it to be a happy ending. She can have her mind and spiritual connection with Stefan and her body and passionate side with Damon, she admited in one of the earlier books she loved both of them. When she was dying she looked at Damon and in her mind she said because I love him too.
So true Jayla.
Jayla, I’m totally agree with you, Damon/Elena even I like Stefan/Elena/Damon too, but:
2) He sends out that telepathic message when shes in the tree that says: tonight is the best night of my life
When does he say that???
Yeah, when does he say that?
so wait a sec! this is actually in the book- the return: shadow souls? as in this is the first chapter? im sooooo confused!
I doubt if it’s the first chapter, I think it’s just an excerpt from the new book (Somewhere in the book, not necessarily right at the beggining)
To bad we have to wait until February to read it, ugh, I’m ripping my hair out over here!
He says this is the best night of his life in Night Fall when she is in the tree and she still thinks he’s turned back to the dark side. I don’t think she understood it’s meaning at the time because she didn’t know he was still on her side. But, once we know he is then the only way to take that comment is to heart, he had spent that whole night with her, the massaging, the walk, the kiss to his palm, the kiss when she realized he didn’t have Stephan killed. So IMO he was saying being with her like that made it the best night of his life. He also says that bit about just jump end the dead end….. I think he knew if she took the leap of faith so to speak she would find her power and lose her fears. Which she did. But, like I said at the time he thinks it to her she thinks hes back to being bad.
I absolutely love this series. I would like it to end up Elena and Damon for sure. They have alot unspoken and unsettled between the both of them, looks like they’ve finally started to get “things” situated, however.
I cannot wait for the new book, its killing me!!! /cry
I am truly hoping the author can find a way to put Damon and Elena together. I love Stefan he is a sweetheart and I know how much he loves Elena and she loves him, but I do believe Damon loves Elena too. I’m starting to think she may be his first real love it was never really said if he loved Katherine maybe he only wanted her to trump Stefan. I will say I agree with whoever said it earlier, Damon needs Elena in a way that i Don’t think Stefan does. I found myself feeling so sad for him when he said he hadn’t prayed in a long time and that none of his prayers were ever answered any way. I want him to get Elena. I don’t care if it ends up as a threesome. Some maybe disturbed by that notion, but not me. If it means Damon wins too. They make Damon out to be quite the womanizer, wouldn’t it be a nice twist if we find out he’s a virgin too. We know he hasn’t had sex as a vampire, but maybe he never did as a human. Now that would be sweet and special. Keeping my fingers crossed.
OH and Matt belongs with Bonnie.
ok I think this.
Elena loves stefan, with her heart, soul, and her body too, come on, that’s obvious in the night full, her first words were stefan and please, because she wanna be with him, in their way exchanging blood and all that, and yes she loves damon but i don’t think that is in the same way, and they don’t belong together, as much as we all want that, I don’t think that’s going to happen because in the book if you see the moment of more conection between Damon and Elena, she went to stefan gave him her blood and suffer for him.
I think that Damon is growing up in this book, and I do think he and Bonnie are right for each other, because I know he wants Elena but part of that it’s because of Stefan he wants what Stefan have, in this case Elena.
and if you see in nightfall even when he was possese he saved Bonnie, he did’nt drink her blood (not even when they met either), he suck to got out the poison, for the first time in his life jajaja did’nt bite a human, and in the deal he want t save his girls, Elena and Bonnie, and then he said that in the entire world didn’t exist two Bonnie.
I think that in this new book Bonnie will get even more madure, and she’ll become a perfect mach for Damon, and Damon too for her, after he get over all Stefan – Elena thing.
and Matt or Mutt jejjee, I don’t think he belong with Bonnie, maybe she wanted that in some point in the book, but I think he did see her as a sister rather that as a women, and I hope he is going to be with some new caracther from the new book jejeje.
OMFG!! that was sooooo(etc.) good!! i cant wait!!1 but i dont think the secret is shes a virgin. i think its something deeper and darker. something shes trying to hide…
I think i’m the only person here who is dissapointed… I am a big Stephan-Elena fan and i always viewed VD as my fav series becoz there is no messed up triangles & twisted relationships on it… Elena has a connection with Damon and she always been attracted to him but from the beginning Stephan was her true love and i always see their love as pure, boundless and eternal… Now i feel like Elena is cheating on Stephan (with his brother) and i’m so sad…
As for the secret… It can’t be anything like Elena being a virgin or S&E never made love or something. I think it has something to do with WHAT ELENA IS…
She was a human first, she then became a vampire, then she died and came back as some angel-like creature… She then lost some of her powers but she is still different and not exactly a human like she was before. She has new powers and all. I think the secret is what Elena is.
Btw- I love Damon and Boonie too… The scene in the bathroom where Damon tried to save Boonie with all his power and the scene where Boonie kissed him were awesome.
I feel like Boonie has some kind of calming affect on Damon…
I have to disagree with you beth. I agree Damon seems to have some sort of feelings for Bonnie and when he saved her from the creepers he wasn’t being completely possessed like he was in the field with Elena and Matt. I think the fact he saved Bonnie’s life makes him feel something for her. But, when he is stomping the Malach after Elena pulls it out he says “it made him persecute the person he cared most about in the world” meaning Elena. Then we she kisses his hand he says it felt like a branding iron. Then he said that she was “everything” and from the sounds of this teaser they are about to make love. And Elenas own words, that he was shaking like a little boy that had just kissed his first love. I think that is telling. I don’t have anything against Stefan I love him too. But, I love Damon more at this point and I want him with Elena. The Bonnie thing doesn’t make sense to me, Damon wouldn’t keep pining for Elena if there was more to him and Bonnie. JMO
I just read the entire series for the first time. I am on team Damon!! Even though the original series ended with Stefan and Elena. I noticed when she did the ritual at Bonnie or Merediths house in book 2 to see who she would marry. Whether he busted in or not Damon is the one who came in and sat in that chair. And Elena makes the comment that the clocked stopped working. Now in my opinion that should have meant she would end up marrying Damon. It’s not too late to correct that mistake L.J. Smith.
I don’t know Kathy maybe you’re right, in Dark Reunion I was beating of Elena and Damon, but now I want Elena and Stefan together, maybe because I haven’t yet fogive Damon for what he did to Stefan jejeje, because in every book Damon was the bad boy who always do the right thing in the end, and no matter what he say or do, he loves Stefan, and the way he make that deal and make Stefan go away in that dark place
… but after I wrote that I looked into the Blog of L J Smith and there is a small description of the other two books, and it kind of make me sad, the next book Damon is bad yet again!, and Elena, Meredith, Bonnie and Matt became his slaves, and in the last one Elena has to decide between Stefan and Damon, so maybe all the Bonnie and Damon is not going to happen…
but I don’t know, I think there was a really good posibility between the two of then, if the writter would want that and make that the caracter evolutioned, not right now, not with Bonnie still been that inocent and Damon been that into Elena… jeje
I definately don’t think the author would drop hints about a Bonnie/Damon relationship if she didn’t plan to do SOMTHING with it (but then again, you could say the same about Bonnie/Matt) Even though I am willing to awknowledge that Damon does pay special interest in Bonnie, I still always found that their relationship was a way for Smith to convey Damons growing love of, not simply Bonnie, but humans and general. Instead of her actually developing the two as a romantic interest, what I’m hoping to get from Damon and Bonnie is more of a…not complete character change, but for Damon to finally learn to feel, care for, and over all appreciate human beings (which seems to be a big theme in most of the books, Damons complete lack of respect for the lives of humans in general) Bonnie, because of her plain old Bonnie like innocence and naive charm, is a way to bring out these feelings in Damon.
There is no way to deny Damons love for Elena (although I’m sure some people could put up a good argument
Especially well reading Nightfall, the things he says and does really make it extremely plain to me that Damon has true, real feelings of love for Elena. It simply isn’t the “get the girl to p.o. Stefan” relationship that it started out as. They way they interact, and how their relationship has grown throughout the books is amazing.
I have contemplated a Bonnie/Damon relationship, and you know what, if thats how it ends I won’t get THAT upset. I can definately see the potential of it ending like that. It works in a way, I don’t condone the relationship, but I’ve learned to accept it and appreciate it in it’s own way. It sounds corny and stupid, but thats just the way I see it
When i think about it, if Elena choses Damon, what’s there for Stephan? He has always been the one who is loyal to his love. Stephan only and only loves Elena, he doesn’t have any kind of feelings for anyone else. I know that Damon loves Elena but he also has feelings for Boonie. Even Elena is aware of these feelings.
Boonie and Damon have a connetion. There is just something there you know. If LJ wants a happy ending for all, she can always build up Damon and Boonie while there is still time…
When Elena died, the only thing kept Stephan alive was his promise to Elena, to look after Damon… And while Stephan was in an eternal grief over Elena’s loss, Damon was having his fun with girls…
I don’t know, i love Damon and i think his character arc to redemption is gonna be really good. But i can’t see a redemption if he once again gets involved with the girl his brother loves and has a relationship with.
The fact that they are brothers and they already have a history of being involved in a twisted triangle that ended badly and turned them both into tortured souls is what makes me resent the idea of an Damon-Elena relationship.
Can’t see how a repeat of the whole Katherine plot will make any good for any of the characters… I know Elena is no Katherine but when you think about, with Katherine, Stephan was the first one who started having a relationship with her, then Damon came and it turned into a triangle.
I love all the characters and i want the best for all of them. I feel like if Damon and Boonie get a chance to know each other more, that “something” between them may turn into a real love…
I can’t see any kind of happiness for Stephan if Elena leaves him for his brother. And i really can’t see Elena being fully happy if she were to chose Damon and leave Stephan.
Coz frankly i believe that Elena can live without Damon but she can not live without Stephan…
I guess we’ll wait and see…
I read somewhere that LJ promised a happy ending (like in the first trilogy), i’m just keeping my fingers crossed and “believe” just like Elena did.
When i think about it, if Elena choses Damon, what\’s there for Stephan? He has always been the one who is loyal to his love. Stephan only and only loves Elena, he doesn\’t have any kind of feelings for anyone else. I know that Damon loves Elena but he also has feelings for Boonie. Even Elena is aware of these feelings.
Boonie and Damon have a connetion. There is just something there you know. If LJ wants a happy ending for all, she can always build up Damon and Boonie while there is still time…
When Elena died, the only thing kept Stephan alive was his promise to Elena, to look after Damon… And while Stephan was in an eternal grief over Elena’s loss, Damon was having his fun with girls…
I don’t know, i love Damon and i think his character arc to redemption is gonna be really good. But i can’t see a redemption if he once again gets involved with the girl his brother loves and has a relationship with.
The fact that they are brothers and they already have a history of being involved in a twisted triangle that ended badly and turned them both into tortured souls is what makes me resent the idea of an Damon-Elena relationship.
Can’t see how a repeat of the whole Katherine plot will make any good for any of the characters… I know Elena is no Katherine but when you think about, with Katherine, Stephan was the first one who started having a relationship with her, then Damon came and it turned into a triangle.
I love all the characters and i want the best for all of them. I feel like if Damon and Boonie get a chance to know each other more, that \”something\” between them may turn into a real love…
I can’t see any kind of happiness for Stephan if Elena leaves him for his brother. And i really can’t see Elena being fully happy if she were to chose Damon and leave Stephan.
Coz frankly i believe that Elena can live without Damon but she can not live without Stephan…
I guess we’ll wait and see…
I read somewhere that LJ promised a happy ending (like in the first trilogy), i’m just keeping my fingers crossed…
When i think about it, if Elena choses Damon, what\\\’s there for Stephan? He has always been the one who is loyal to his love. Stephan only and only loves Elena, he doesn\\\’t have any kind of feelings for anyone else. I know that Damon loves Elena but he also has feelings for Boonie. Even Elena is aware of these feelings.
Boonie and Damon have a connetion. There is just something there you know. If LJ wants a happy ending for all, she can always build up Damon and Boonie while there is still time…
When Elena died, the only thing kept Stephan alive was his promise to Elena, to look after Damon… And while Stephan was in an eternal grief over Elena\’s loss, Damon was having his fun with girls…
I don\’t know, i love Damon and i think his character arc to redemption is gonna be really good. But i can\’t see a redemption if he once again gets involved with the girl his brother loves and has a relationship with.
The fact that they are brothers and they already have a history of being involved in a twisted triangle that ended badly and turned them both into tortured souls is what makes me resent the idea of an Damon-Elena relationship.
Can\’t see how a repeat of the whole Katherine plot will make any good for any of the characters… I know Elena is no Katherine but when you think about, with Katherine, Stephan was the first one who started having a relationship with her, then Damon came and it turned into a triangle.
I love all the characters and i want the best for all of them. I feel like if Damon and Boonie get a chance to know each other more, that \\\”something\\\” between them may turn into a real love…
I can\’t see any kind of happiness for Stephan if Elena leaves him for his brother. And i really can\’t see Elena being fully happy if she were to chose Damon and leave Stephan.
Coz frankly i believe that Elena can live without Damon but she can not live without Stephan…
I guess we\’ll wait and see…
I read somewhere that LJ promised a happy ending (like in the first trilogy), i\’m just keeping my fingers crossed…
Let’s Believe
:D, don’t you think it would be great if Damon fall in love with a human! jajajaja after everything he says and think of them. jejeje
Beth I have a feeling the girls are pretending to be Damon’s slaves in order to get into hell, I don’t think they are really his slaves. I agree there are alot of bonnie damon hints but equally as many about Matt and Bonnie. I just don’t see how it will be Elena choosing Between Stefan and Damon in the last book if Damon is giving Bonnie that much consideration. I will be fine either way but I would like to see Damon happy for sure.
dude beth, whats with all the jejeje’s and jajaja’s?!
You know, thats the only real problem I can think of with a Damon/Elena relationship, how much hurt it would cause Stefan. He’s cared for and loved Elena passionately, theres no reason for him to be dumped like that, losing his loved one to Damon (again) I want Stefan to be happy, but it seems that the only way that will happen is if Elena stays away from Damon (not a great option for me
)
Still, Damon deserves to be happy. It seems like no matte what someone will end up hurt, thats the thing about love triangles XD It’s propabley quite obvious i’ve already decided that I think Damon belongs with Elena (or rather, needs her more) he’s far more…troubled, than Stefan, even if he doesn’t show it in the same way. Thats why I would have to disagree about Beths comment that Damon felt little remorse for Elenas death, and rather just “had fun with girls” his emotions may be expressed diferently, but that in no way indicates that they aren’t there. I would guess Damon was just as upset about Elenas death, but as is evident throughout the books, he doesn’t express his inner feelings easily (or at all for the most part) and hides behind a facade of anger, sarcasm, and indifference. That’s what makes him such a compelling character, who doesn’t love a bad boy with a soft side?
Elena is the only person who really brings out the real Damon, I love watching them interact.
I honestly don’t know how I’m hoping this series will end. I’m hoping for some sort of jaw dropping, didn’t expext that kind of conclusion XD it don’t love every coupling, i’m just really open to anything! I’ve heard Damon/Meredith, Elena/Caroline, Bonnie/Stefan, shipping can get crazy!
i didn’t say that Damon felt litle remorse from Elena’s death, that was Susan, I agree with you Sarah, that’s his way of express his felings.
Sorry with the jajajas, and the jejejes, it’s just that it would be so ironic for Damon
fall in love from a human.
Let’s wait what happen.
Well I read in the L J Smith blog that in the next book Damon would know what’s feel to have three wifes, Elena, Bonnie and Meredith…
Oh! I’m really sorry, ugh…i’m stupid sometimes. Your two comments were back to back, I got a little mixed up XD
By the way, I also think it would be cool for Damon to end up with the human (it’s not my favourite relationship, but I kind of like a bit of everything:) ) It’s like the one thing he initially doesn’t want at all and has no respect for, ends up being what he needs the most. Man, i’m so phyced for the new book!
Alrighty, I’m wondering how the series will end. Does anyone else think Damon will sacrifice himself for his love for Elena? As much as I would hate to see this happen, it seems very probable. I mean, think about it….Stefen/Elena, Matt/Bonnie, Meredith/Alaric, etc. So who would Damon end up with? Yes that is the question that I know everyone who loves Damon is thinking of an answer to. For all those who have read A TALE OF TWO CITIES, you know what I mean by Damon=Sydney Carton. I am predicting (but hoping I am completely wrong!) that Damon will give up his life for Elena and Stefen to be happy together. On the other hand, that is kind of predictable, so it might not happen….
Well, if it were up to me, I would get Elena and Damon together. They are the perfect match in my eyes. Stefen is just so….boring. Sorry to all you Stefen lovers but I just don’t get what’s so great about him, despite the fact of him being so nice all the time. I just feel like L.J. didn’t develop his character as much as Damon’s. Although there is about a 130% chance of this NOT happening, I would like to see a new girl come to Fell’s Church and totally blow Stefen away. That would be perfect! That way Damon and Elena could be happy forever and Stefen woouldn’t be super sad. LOL. Unlikely? yes. But hey, a girl can dream……
Okay. This might sound bad. But I think that maybe one of the brothers will die and Elena will have to choose the other. I don\’t think that the author would kill Stefan but I think it might happen like this: Stefan will die trying to protect Elena and Damon will comfort her but she will feel too guilty to want to be with Damon. Then maybe Stefan will appear to her and say that it\’s okay for them to be together.
Gasp! Avery, I think you might have read my mind!
When I first read the books, thats EXACTLY what I thought would happen! I guessed Damon would finally realise his love for Elena, but die in some heroic way (I don’t know, maybe she was in a perilous situation and needed saving) to protect Elena. or ultimately sacrifice himself for her, you know, take me Instead of Elena, that kind of deal. Not only would this solve the problem of Elena having to choose Damon or Stefan, it would leave us with a positive image of a character who has developed from…well, downright evil, to caring and ultimately selfless (a complete one eighty from the original Damon) Now, I forced these evil thoughts out of my mind out of sheer love for the character ( you know I just can’t bear to see him die
but if given the choice between having him end up alone and unhappy…I just dont’ know.
Lol, I agree about the 130% thing…sigh, we can only hope. Heres to crossed fingers!
For me it couldn’t be a happy ending like she said if either brother died.
For me it wouldn’t be a happy ending like she said if either brother died.
Maybe she’s some kind of an angel with power to turn one of them back to human? And that would most definitely be Stefan. I just don’t see Damon human.
But he’ll have forever to find true love. Especially if he lets Stefan and Elena’s love turn him into a believer again. Maybe it’ll take another 500 hundred years, but that only means we could get more Damon centered books.
Well… I’d hate to see one of the two brothers dead, (Although I think LJ Smith would not kill any of the two brothers ¬¬) But…
Nobody has thought that Damon deserves her happy ending?
I mean, Damon has suffered much more than Stefan if we stick to the original Vampire Diaries. It’s OK, he was wrong with Elena at first, but when it seems that he can become good, something always happens. Elena’s friends and Stefan reject him, they think badly of him … (At nightfall when he saves Bonnie show something like this: He felt like the walls around his heart began to fall … and then Bonnie squeals, and fuc* all the scene)
I think Damon has always been rejected. First his father has a predilection for Stefan (I think it is quite clear in The Awakening) He was not just San Damon but okay …
In The fury, Katherine says she wanted more to Stefan (I can imagine how Damon’s felt)
And in Dark Reunion Stefan think that he allowed Klaus to kill Vickie.
Elena only rejected him after The Struggle. When she becomes a vampire she knows that is something more in Damon so she continious with him.
And that is why I want a Damon/Elena, because although Damon ends up with Bonnie, I think in Nightfall is very clear that Damon loves Elena, and if she finally ends with Stefan and Damon knows that Elena also loves him then he will become really bad.
Because I’ve never thought that Damon was bad. JMO.
Pardon for my bad English ¬.¬
Thank you Sarah, we are definitely along the same lines here!
lol.
And Amanda, I agree with you in liking Damon more and wanting a happy ending for him, I like him the most too!
Amanda I agree with you Damon has suffered a great deal. I also agree that Damon seems to always finish 2nd. Seems like their father preferred Stefan, and Katherine said she loved Stefan best. I would like to see Damon win the girl and I don’t mean Bonnie. I’ve paid a great deal of attention to the books and Bonnie never seems to be ahead of Elena in his thoughts NEVER. He is all confused about what to do with Bonnie in Nightfall until Elena says “Help her, Please!” then he’s on it. Then while Bonnie is still in the tub dying he’s in a day dream about Elena not wearing under clothes, When they are in the car while Bonnie is lying half dead he is commenting on Elena being gorgeous as always, then when Stefan throws him out of his room when he is in the woods he says ” I could care less what any of the humans thought, but Elena was there and it made it too humiliating.” That is just some of the examples, he doesn’t even bother to save Bonnie from the altar until Elena yells to him to look at Bonnie. During the fight he’s giving Elena meaningful gazes and her him. Hell, even in the beginning of the book he is outside Carolines room getting an eye full not Bonnies room. I just don’t think there has been enough evidence to suggest a Bonnie and Damon relationship. It would not be believeable to me. I think Matt just looks at Bonnie as one of the only humans who has accepted him for what he is. And I think it made him feel good about himself to save her life.
Sorry, I meant Damon not Matt at the end of that thought
Amanda, what do you mean Damon ends up with Bonnie? That has yet to be determined unless you’ve heard or read something I haven’t.
I agree completely with you Monica. I think that’s why it took me such a long time to actually even realise a Bonnie/Damon relationship was developuing. Behind all these subtle, vague hints, there were always frying pan statements hitting you in the face screaming “Damon loves Elena!” Thats why I have such a hard time beleiving that anyone could possibley argue that Damon doesn’t have real feelings for her (and I know some people do) It became very evident to mean well reading nightfall. For the one bathroom scene Damon shared with Bonnie, there were numerous thoughts and statements, as well as chapters of evidence that Elena was the one he really wanted.
Damon does deserve a happy ending, your right. Still, I don\’t think that Damons happy ending should result in Stefans eternal misery (the probable occurane if he lost Elena.) I want a happy ending for both of them! XD I can’t imagine how Smith is going to work this out. I just hope for once Damon gets all that HE wants, instead of coming second best to Stefan (again). I don’t know, i’m still thinking she\’s going to kill someone off… ( she did say Bonnie was going to die young in the book, that doesn\’t mean she has to stay dead. I’m not fond of the idea of her becoming a vampire, I’m just mentioning it as a possible outcome. I’m not against a Bonnie/Damon relationship (I know i’ve said that before) I’m not going to deny somthing that’s there, I can see hints pointing towards the relationship. And really if Elena chooses Stefan, what else is there for Damon?
No, Kathy, it was my fault. I have to learn to speak english ¬¬
I mean if Elena and Stefan ends up together and Elena refuses Damon (I doubt it… ¬¬ I’m so sure that Elena loves him too, until she says the opposite)
It was only a supposition.
I can’t wait to read Shadow souls, I hope that L.J Smith answer us some questions.
Sarah, The only solution that I find to this `roblem is that it ends in a Stefan / Elena / Damon relationship.
Which brings us back to the beginning of the story ¬¬
(By the way You’re right. I don’t want to see Stefan’s eternal misery ¬¬ )
I wouldn’t be suprised to see a Damon/Elena/Stefan relationship. It’s been hinted at and it is how Damon and Stefan’s story kinda got started. I think Elena is finding there are things she loves about both Stefan and Damon. I also always think about when she is a vampire when her Damon and Stefan are all holding hands she says they felt connected and strong. Not to mention the way the original series ended Stefan and Elena both had a hand stretched out to Damon. I would enjoy this ending much more than having one of the guys hurt. I don’t want to see Stefan unhappy any more than i want to see Damon unhappy. I still believe Bonnie and Matt are a better match even if Bonnie becomes a vampire (which I don’t like that idea either) the way Damon talks vampire mates are mostly just for companionship the only intimacy they can share is by feeding off the same victim at the same time and I couldn’t see Bonnie wanting to feed off a human and animals minds probably wouldn’t work.
KK, That is a very good point you made, I forgot about that. That little dumb supper as Bonnie called it ended with Damon in the chair. Thing is L.J. Smith ended the series with Elena being with Stefan so did she forget about that? I agree she can fix it now. I love both the guys but I’m starting to think Damon and Elena need each other in a way that she and Stefan do not. I was struck by an incident in Nightfall. when Damon sneaks in to delete Stefan’s message, when he is reaching under her pillow and her hair touches his hand he says it started an ache in his chest instead of in his canines, and then when she is facing him he says instead of tracing the blue veins in her throat and wrist he found himself staring at her lips. It just seems he has more of a physical attraction to her than Stefan does. Stefan never seemed to be bothered by her nakedness and it affected Damon. The mind, heart and soul connection with her and Stefan is great but she is at least part human if not all, sooner or later shes going to want a physical relationship. This may be where her and Damon find their connection, although I won’t be suprised of they find they have a heart and soul connection as well. You have to remember they have never kissed or exchanged blood(in a passionate moment) I think that will be quite telling when it finally happens. I think there is a reason she and Damon always avoided kissing I think he knew he would have feelings and I think she was afraid that she would too.
Oh I remember that. I was so happy about that.
I think that Damon should stay with Elena, but she loves Stefen too. Boonie defenetly showld stay with Matt.
Did anyone else find it odd that when Elena went to where Stefen was in Nightfall(with the magic key) when she is passing him the Black Magic in the flask she says “act like you love me” and telepathically he says it back to her with a question “Act like I love You?” What do yall think that she meant? Do you think she is starting to think Stefen is still in love with Katherine or the fact that she looks like her? That part confused me and the authour never cleared it up? which honestly there were alot of things she left unanswered like in Dark Reunion when Damon says he came back for his own reasons to Fells Church, we never found out what his reasons were. And I always wondered did he try to hypnotize Bonnie as a way to make her take him into her trance to see Elena? I know he told Matt is was just for blood but I wonder? Any thoughts?
I should have said I am also a Damon/Elena supporter. I don’t know why maybe there is just something about a guy that seems like a lost cause. I agree with the ones of you who said you believe Damon needs her in a way that Stefen doesn’t. I see it that way too. But, you can’t not like Stefen he hasn’t done anything to make us dislike him he’s almost saintly. But, that can indeed get boring. I enjoy the Sookie Stackhouse Series and I indeed prefer the vamp that is considered the bad boy in those books too. Maybe it’s because with him and Damon as a reader I get the impression they aren’t nearly as bad as they are perceived to be. I can see the good especially when the girl is involved. I have a feeling there isn’t much Damon wouldn’t do for Elena including giving his life for her. And I am with those of you who said Damon dying would NOT be a happy ending at all. I would be furious.
Carol Ann..i totally remember that part when elena told Stefan to act like he loved her..i found it puzzling…nightfall frustrated me sooo much…the whole twins thing was annoying and damon was just soo bad in there..i know it was cz he was possessed but eish…stress…i have read thru all the comments and have had plenty of laughs, i love forums and reading differnt people’s P.O.V’s ….the whole “damon realised she was a virgin part” gave me some giggles..and people’s comments back…and the “jajaja & jejeje” lol….and the person who realised it and commented on it…lol….anyway,i cant wait to read the next book,Did any1 realise that when elena came for matt and he was with bonnie and he said that he’d come over to check bonnie’s mom’s car,matt & bonnie had an eye moment where it was clear that they were lying and probably they’d hooked up?
this so shows that l.j is moving towards the matt/bonnie direction….so i hope damon/elena be together cz if bonnie is taken and stefan/elena happens,where will damon be?…..anyway…..cant wait..i just hope this book isnt a strange/stressful rollercoaster as nightfall….lol
I totally caught that part with Matt and Bonnie too Pearl. I thought the same thing. Because it was just Matt and Bonnie together and no Meredith. I’m all for Matt and Bonnie getting together. i think they go good together. Bonnie has been talking about Matt since the first book, asking Elena if she could have him since she was going after Stefan. I agree Damon did alot of bad things in Nightfall but since I know he was possessed I forgave him. I tend to look at the sweetness he showed Elena while he was taking care of her and when they went for their walk and he said something beyond his control made him spring out and pick her up and he apologized in a dozen different languages, I thought that was soooo sweet, I was also struck by the fact that she offers him her blood repeatedly and he acts like he wants to but he never takes her up on the offer, I think we got a glimpse at a more gentlemanly Damon. Well, I hope the exerpt from the book makes the cut and they don’t get interrupted by anybody, I’ve been waiting through 5 books to see them have their moment without interruptions (which has happened every single time they have a near kiss in previous books) When Elena first turned vampire and she was still confused she said she was born to be with Damon and that she loved him and she comments that he loves her. Then in Nightfall Stefan says it in the diary message to Elena that Damon would NEVER harm her because he loves her. Curiously Damon deleted that part, I think he’s trying to hide the fact that he loves her.You know Damon and feelings don’t go together. But hopefully they will soon.
I think we all tend to forget about Matt because we are all so focused on Damon and Stefan he is really the unsung hero of the books. What wont this guy do for Elena? And he’s just a human, no special strength or powers. I know is over him as a love interest, or so it would seem, but that’s the secondary reason I want him and Bonnie to get together. Bonnie has admitted to a crush on him since the first book and since Elena has moved on Bonnie seems to be the only girl that’s catching Matt’s attention. Plus the main focus of these books is a love TRIANGLE Damon/Elena/Stefen I think it would be foolish to change the course now especially when this teaser reads like Damon is still very much in love with Elena. So here is to hoping for the best and that Matt gets Bonnie.
I am in love with the series, however no matter what anyone says i wan\’t to believe that Damon and Bonnie end up together, I think this is how it is going to play out Elena and Stefan end up together in the end something happends where Damon has to rescue or fight along side Bonnie and he realizes he loves her as well and then becomes torn between the two Elena and Bonnie and which one he loves the most, at the end Elena is torn as well between Damon and Stefan but ends up choosing stefan which in turn frees Damon from loving her and allows him to fully love Bonnie. As for the rest of the characters Alaric and Meredith end up getting married. Matt gets accepted to an IV league school on a football scholorship and he takes it because he does not yet know who he is in life, and it is going to take a while to get over Elena.
I dont know i have read a lot of Vampire romance books and this is just how i feel. The bad boy always ends up finding out the one he thought he loved is not the one at all the one they really love has been under their noses all the time and it always ends up being the pretty sweet and innocent one like Damon and Bonnie the difference in my mind is that Bonnie is the one that always is the heroin in distress and Damon rescues her it sounds to me like it gives him a sense of importance in his realationship with Bonnie and she needs Damon more then Elena in my opinion. In nightfall he saves Bonnie like three-four different times. They are meant to be.
Please dont hate me this is what i think.
I don’t hate anyone for having their own opinion Linny, yours just varies from mine. I happen to love the idea of Damon getting Elena and Matt getting Bonnie. Why does Matt have to come out alone he’s been through alot himself. And I can’t help myself NO MATTER what other people think(and it doesn’t mean they aren’t right) I have not seen enough evidence thus far to make me believe Damon could love Bonnie. The most he’s ever even been around her was in Dark Reunion and it wasn’t that much. All I’m saying is L.J. Smith better start putting them together alot more in order to make it believeable because right now as it stands I don’t see it. I see he has feelings for her which Bonnie has been the one human (besides Elena) who didn’t treat him differently. I myself would be terribly disappointed if Damon ends up with Bonnie. These books are about a love triangle. And what if Elena ends up in love with Damon too. which I can see happening, could she stand seeing him with one of her best friends all the time? I don’t know.
Pearl said : this so shows that l.j is moving towards the matt/bonnie direction….so i hope damon/elena be together cz if bonnie is taken and stefan/elena happens,where will damon be?
I think if it would be like that that maybe Damon ends up with Meredith. Wouldn’t that be very interesting ?
Meredith has always been the one who was never fooled by Damon or ever attracted to him. So what if by some accident they become to like each other.. – okay even if it takes a huge accident to put the two of them together but still – It would be very interesting. It might seem impossible – maybe it is, I dunno- but love and hate are very close to each other, don’t forget that. Plus then u would have Stefan and Elena together -the meant-to-be-bla bla, like who sees that coming ? – and Bonnie/Matt. So you would have Meredith and Damon left. I mean come on Meredith being together with Alaric is so weird, he’s never there for her.
And Meredith is a very calm and smart person and she’s de only one who’s strong enough to deal with Damon in whatever mood he is – well except when he uses his vampire strength- but it would be interesting. And please don’t get all mad on me it was just a fun thought. And i was from the beginning all for Elena/Damon, but this occurred to me and I dunno… it would at least be something you wouldn’t ever expect!
is elena a virgin???
We don’t know KAT, that is one of the theories about what the secret is.
I wrote on L.j.Smith blog and ask her a question about elena and Stefan on the last book about if they had sex cause i was confuse if they did or not .This is before I read the teaser .This is what she wrote back,if Elena and Stefan had more time together before Stefan was kidsnapped they would probably have gotten married.Elena is 18 and Stefan is really old.Usually that would be pretty young to marry (for Elena)but she knows she will always love Stefan.But as you will see in Shadow Soul the next Vamipire Diraries book well you you\\\’ll see.Now what do you think?Now since I read the teaser I think Elena is a virgin.
I wrote on L.j.Smith blog and ask her a question about elena and Stefan on the last book about if they had sex cause i was confuse if they did or not .This is before I read the teaser .This is what she wrote back,if Elena and Stefan had more time together before Stefan was kidsnapped they would probably have gotten married.Elena is 18 and Stefan is really old.Usually that would be pretty young to marry (for Elena)but she knows she will always love Stefan.But as you will see in Shadow Soul the next Vamipire Diraries book well you you’ll see.Wat do you think?Now since I read the teaser I think Elena is a virgin.
Yes, I\’m starting to be convinced Elena is a virgin. Damon is happy about something. However, the Elena will always love Stefan comment has me wondering where that will leave Damon. Will she love him too? Well, she already said she did as a vampire but Damon never knew(unless he has read it in her thoughts). I love stefan he\’s a sweetie, but sorry to hack anyone off but I think I love Damon more. I want him to have a happy ending, and I am not a Damon/Bonnie supporter. I agree that Bonnie and Matt should be together.
Thank you Michelle!
WOWEE-WOW WOW!!!! I LOVED THIS!!!!
I cannot WAIT to read Shadow Souls now! This is a side of Damon I’ve never seen and I absolutely LOVE it! Ahhh!!! At first I was all for the Stefan and Elena pairing-but they are almost too easy together a couple. Too simple. I love the intense fire between Elena and Damon though! And I’m defiantly not a Bonnie/Damon supporter-I think she would be best with Matt. Which means maybe a character is going to die? so the pairings will be even and everything? I’m not sure, but this is…omygosh! It doesnt get much more exciting than that ![]()
THANK YOUUU
Seems like the majority of this board are Damon/Elena supporters hopefully the author is listening. If there are this many of us on one site I’m betting there are ALOT more out there.
I simply love Damon and Elena together. They fit together so well, and I think the whole tears thing is about her virginity. Anywho Bonnie belongs with Matt. Has it ever occured to you people that maybe Stefan will find someone else!!! There are 2 more books! It could be Caroline for all we know!!
I agree completely Kathryn! It seems like everywhere I look there’s nothing but Damon/Bonnie shippers, it\’s refreshing to see that there actually ARE a lot of Damon/Elena fans out there! Finally people I can identify with! Does anyone know which relationships Smith is a fan of? I’ve always wondered if she had a personal preference for Bonnie/Damon, Damon/Elena, Bonnie/Matt, etc. Just an interesting question.
I’ve thought that too, Sarah.
hey you know what i just remember, bonnie and damon kissed in conflict, in the second book, in the first Alaric’s party, and if you think about it, there was no reason for damon to do that!, and if you compare with the tale of after hours, that was after bonnie and damon met… and I think that he kissed her that time because he had felling for her!, not because of Stefan or Elena, they weren’t even there!! so it’s not just the new triology! in every book that the two of them were togheter there was something, we just were to concentrate betwen all stefan, elena, damon! because in the for book when stefan was dying, there was a moment betwen damon and bonnie too!!!
Sorry Beth, I’m not feeling it. Even though L.J. wrote that short story about Damon and Bonnie since it’s not published and not everyone read it, In my opinion it doesn’t count. I did personally read it and hated it. It didn’t seem characteristic of Damon at that time. And considering the timeline he hadn’t met Elena yet. Only seen her as the crow. What I ask myself is in the last book of the originally series, Damon says he doesn’t give a damn about anyone else and Bonnie says “he was telling the truth, and she was curiously unoffended” and Damon left. If she were that intent on putting Bonnie and Damon together why didn’t she do it in the original series? I may end up eating crow (no pun intended) but I just don’t see it. L.J. has put too much effort into showing how much Damon cares for/loves Elena to go off the other end and put Bonnie and Damon together.
If thats how it ends up, then that’s how it ends up, but right now as the books stand, I don’t buy it.
Yes, I read the short story too. Also didnt care for it. Bonnie makes a comment that Elena was trying to get Stefan, so this story was definitely BEFORE Damon met Elena in his human form and got to know her and her personality.
I remember Bonnie mentioning the kiss in the first or second book at Alaric’s party. Damon ‘could’ have done that just as a way to let Elena know he can get to her friends. Because in Nightfall he says vampires don’t kiss except enough to get the victim to give up there blood (not exact words) so He obviously, wouldn’t have been kissing her just for pleasure. Anyway, Damon and Elena all the way, Matt and Bonnie all the way.
YYAAAAAYYY!!! DAMON AND ELENA!!!! I LOVE THEM, they are my favourit! (: cant wait until next year. I really hope there will be more action and passion and LOVE between Damon and Elena, because they are much better than Stefan and Elena or Bonnie and Damon! GO DAMON AND ELENA!
Hmm, i’d have to agree. Although Damon did kiss Bonnie, I hardly take that as evidence of him having true feelings for her. I mean, if flirtation and physical contact are evidence of Damon’s love, he’d be infatuated with half the country by now. Now, of course everyone interperets things their own way, and I KNOW vampires don’t normally kiss (you may be on to somthing there) but I personally never found Damon or Bonnies kiss(es? I’m not sure if this was more than once) ever leaving that much of an impact. On the contrary, I found Damons actions and conversations with Elena much more passionate than his physical kiss with Bonnie. That might just be that I never really saw a Damon/Bonnie relationship so I just sort of put these things off as “typical Damon behaviour” If you liked the Idea of the couple, i’m sure you could interperet it that way. The two definately have their moments.
Of course i’m not trying to say that Damon doesn’t feel some sort of appreciation for Bonnie, and quite honestly I really think he does care for her very much. But you have to admit, the girl that Damon wants the most is Elena. It’s always been Elena first, before anyone, and I have a feeling it always will be.
i’m sorry, but to everyone who say damon and elena not belong together i say this: SHAME ON YOU!!!!!
this treaser made me cry and i definitely think they are meant to be! TEAM DAMON AND ELENA!!!
LOL Sarah, Damon does kiss it up with LOTS of girls and women. Funny, he always avoids the kiss with Elena, maybe a tale tale sign that he definitely has feelings for her.
I think that Elena still has her angelic powers and when he tasted her tears he felt an enesence and purity and the powers Elena had when she was half spirit. I also think that Elena belongs with Stefan. she has told Damon that she will always love Stefan and that she does not want to be Damons ‘princess of darkness.’ She also said that she wants Damon as a Brother-in-law. I think that though Damon may need Elena, she does not need him as much as she needs Stefan. That would be ironic if Damon ended up with merideth since he says she scarce him.
sorry i meant scares him. my bad
Sorry, Emilin but I totally disagree with you. I know that Elena said those things but maybe she was just trying to fool herself. Maybe she actually had feelings for Damon even though she was convinced that she was ment to be with Stefan. You never know.
OMG! I love all of these comments! I absolutatly LOVE Damon and Elena being together! And Laura 9(if thats ur name i kinda forgot since o read through so many) I TOTALLY 100% agree with your opinion that the author cut it off before they do it! What other reson would she have mention there wuz only one bed? I really hope the secret is that she is a virgin!!! I cant wait for this book 2 come out! I thnk that Stephan and Elena WANT each other but i think Damon and Elena NEED each other in a way that maybe is hard to understand. Maybe Damon needs her because she brings out his gentle side and elena needs him because maybe he brings out her shy side since she is always loud and popular. After all Damon does make her feel things that she never felt before so maybe its shyness. I also hope Damon is a virgin and that elena will be his first! They just make the cutest litlte couple! I dont like Stephan that much but i dont want him to kill himself or n e thing! A lot of signs in the book point out that Damon and Elena belong w/ each other like when she asked to know who her future husband wuz gunna be and Damon got in! I LOVE this series!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m sorry but I’m desagree with you Destynee, I really don’t think that Damon is a Virgin (In VD4 he is with the blond girl in Italy) I think Stefan is the virgin brother (L.J Smith never says the otherwise xD)
But I really don’t know who will be his first girl. Elena?
I don’t think so… I think she’s very Busy with Damon in the motel…
I think that whoever she ends up with it will be in Elena’s best interest. Even though I like Stefen more I think Elena shows a sweet and vulnerable side of Damon. Still hoping Elena and Stefan end up together but thats all i can do,is hope.
Amanda its been made pretty clear that vampires don\’t have sex. Elena\’s new aura makes them want to have sex with her but no others, So Damon only shared blood with all the girls he\’s been with as a vampire and we never heard if he was or wasn\’t a virgin as a human. So, it is definitely a possibility that Damon could be a virgin.
Nightfall page 7 Damon\’s thoughts:\”Lucky girl, If I were a rogue human instead of a vampire, then your virtue-presuming you have any-might be in danger. Fortuantely for you I had to give up all that sort of thing nearly half a millennium ago.\”
Page 447 Damon realized he was feeling human desire something he hadn\’t felt for 500 years, Vampires \’didn\’t feel that, it was all sublimated into the need for the blood, always the blood…..
lol.. to be honest this makes me hate elena so much .. i mean dam stick with 1 man .. anyways my predictions that Damon and Elenas connection are gonna get really strong and a big triangles gonna form between elena damon and stefan . Honestly i don’t see damon with Bonnie i’m sure his real intention is to be with Elena. As much as i hate to say it Elenas probably gonna be in love with both Stefan and Damon.. -sighs- i hate it so much lol but it is what makes the story so good. Im guessing that their gonna find Stefan soon. and when Stefan realizes that shes in love with Damon too he’ll go into depression or want to leave elena and damon alone which is when Elena will chase Stefan and realize she really wants him. But hey this is just my opinion / what i think will happen haha. Go figure. Elena make up your dam mind…
I agree with dillon
These 3 books are called Damon’s trilogy too correct? Doesn’t that mean that Damon will have a chance to be with Elena too? I really hope so!!! I just love them so much together!!! As it has been said in a comment above Elena and Stefan are too easy a couple. There is no mystery. Whereas with Damon there is so much mystery and passion. I’m so looking forward to reading the book!!!!!!!
Hey when L.J Smith said that the ending of Midnight will surprise us do you think she could mean that it was all a dream? I don’t know it just came to my mind and…
awesome
now i cant wait to read the rest
Now i have to wait forever for this book to
come out…its going to drive me nuts until i
can read it…i love the series so much!
OOOOMGGGG YEEEESS!! ITS DAMONS TURRN!! <3 and im loooving it ! every bbit of it, they aree to amazing together, i looove his character and their potential they have as a couplee….IM soooooooo exciiiiiiteeeeeed for this one to come outtt! yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy
I feel the same way dana
Why does everyone seem to like Damon. Its better to go with the safe dude cause you never know when you’ll get burned by the bad boy
Sometimes safe is boring. That’s what makes Damon so awesome. He’s not perfect it makes him more REAL.
Kathy that is perfect! Like I said earlier, I feel the same way
I’m with you guys. Love Damon sooooo much!!!!!
OMG!!!!!!! i bet u its the question she cant decide who does she love more damon or stefan!
i hope she picks damon!!!!!!
me too!
I dont
I hope it’s Damon too Hanna. Not that I want Stefan miserable but I took a liking to Damon in the original books and now that he’s more in the fore front I’m liking him even more.
me too Patty
i like damon better but i think bonnie should be with damon nd elena with stefan, stefan got elana first so it kinda wrong for damon to move in on her while stefan is in prison. plus if her and damon go together it would probaly end the world or somthing to that effect haha
Have you read the new L. J. Smith interview? She said: \”….And it’s really the story, whatever my publishers may think and whatever other people may not want, it’s the story of Elena falling in love with Damon to the same extent that she is in love with Stefan. So we have a real love triangle.\”
Yay!!!! I am so happy! I hope Elena will choose Damon at the end! Their relationship is so much deeper than the Stefan-Elena relationship.
(sorry for my bad english)
omigosh!!! I cant wait until it comes out! im all for her being wit Damon!
I disagree Stephy, Yes, Stefan may have gotten Elena first, but he actually wasn’t the first to see her. Damon had already been watching her as a crow before Stefan even laid eyes on her. And after several re-reads I believe Damon is the reason Elena knew to cross the bridge in the first book. She said the thought was just in her mind, and Stefan didn’t possess that power at the time because of being weak. Plus, she says there was a thrashing in the tree above her. The first books were definitely about Elena falling in love with Stefan, but if you read them closely Damon played into those books that you realize. I don’t dislike Stefan by any means but Damon just happens to be the one who has my undivided attention.
Hello! First at all, sorry for my english(i´m spanish) I´ve read all your commentaries and i´m really happy! I love Damon and Elena Damon is so perfect! I think that Stefan is boring and unreal, too.He is nice, yes, but…I read the books in a week and Damon´ character was the reason!
I don´t like Bonnie/Damon couple. I think Bonnie should stay with Matt, and i think that they´re together (as a couple) when Elena was looking for him in last book.
So Go TEAM DAMON!!!
I didn´t know the books but I watched tv show and I wanted reading them. I love how sounds my name( My name is Elena) in English!
I’m personally for Bonnie/Damon but this is beautiful. I’ve always preferred Delena in more in the books – mainly cz of the way Damon is written. A twisted masterpiece. Yes, he loves Elena, and she him but how do we know that he isn’t just obsessed by her, finally wanting the girl as compensation to all those years of loneliness? Damon is a complex character and LJ has stayed true to that, with him showing feelings to be one thing but in truth but what if it was something else entirely? Like with Katherine. He’d convinced himself that she meant to him more than Stefan, but when it came to crunch time he chose his brother and he continues to save him.
I think its the same with Elena. He’s convinced that she is the ONE – but he’s started to give out hints that he may have equally deep feelings for Bonnie. And he DOESN’T know it yet, like Stefan commented
‘”That you care…Enough to take a punch rather than letting Bonnie go underwater.” Here, Damon was “genuinely puzzled”.
To me, he doesn’t realise it yet, but he instictively is protective of Bonnie cz he does have deeper feelings. I believe that maybe just maybe he is in love with both of them right now? He does show certain signs (not exactly jealousy cz he’s Damon) but a sense of overprotectiveness when he sees Matt or anyone else getting in between him and Bonnie. To me, Bonnie brings out selfless side to Damon and Elena – a more content one.
Ps, I don’t think jus cz Matt is alone right now – should pair him with Bonnie. Need to see signs that Matt has moved on from Elena and rather be a sacrifical lamb for Bonnie rather than Elena X
the problem the books and series are soo different so if you imagine damon and elena from reading the books theres nothing really appealing about that but then the tv show they seem so perfect together now stefan and elena in the books there perfect for each other but in the tv series theres them breaking up and getting back together and then the picture of katherine she saw now damon and bonnie seem great together in the books but imagine the actors from the series getting together that seems kind of discusting
I’d have to say I disagree with you. Completely. In fact the Damon/Elena relationship was one of the reasons I continued to read the series and still enjoy them to this day. Of course I like Stephen and Elena too, but it doesn’t hold a candle to the witty dangerous humor and passionate love/hate scenarios that goes alone with a nice Damon/Elena banter.
It really depends on the reader, their personal preferences, and how they interpret the text. So I never personally saw a Damon/Bonnie relationship develop, does that make me right? By no means! I think it’s why shipping wars tend to often get nasty, no relationship will appeal to everyone. It’s inevitable. Stinks for Smith though, and I imagine it’s the same for any author writing a love triangle, no matter how the story ends you get unhappy fans.
Like Asma said, she’s going to need to see more signs to feel a Bonnie/Matt relationship would be appropriate. For me it’s the same with Damon and Bonnie. There just isn’t enough to go on for me. We have one scene in the bathroom, a few other occasional tidbits (Or maybe more, they didn’t leave an impact on me) and although it was genuinely a beautiful scene it isn’t enough to convince me. Especially not when the entirety of the rest of the book seemed to focus on just how much Damon cares for Elena.
My personal opinion (everyone’s entitled to one. I’d appreciate if I didn’t get my head ripped off by angry shippers
) Damon\’s instinctive protectiveness of Bonnie was never a love for her as a person, but rather him developing feelings for humans in general (which is a major theme in the story and her development of the Damon character, how little he values the lives of humans) What better way to show this then through his developing protective nature over the most innocent lovable character in the book. Now, it certainly might develop into something more in the future (doubtful that Stefan and Elena will ever be broken up) but for now I stay unconvinced.
As Asma said, Damon’s giving out HINTS that he cares for Bonnie, and I can appreciate that they are there. But through all of these hints of his growing affection I still can’t help but be walloped in the face with these six foot neon signs screeching “Damon loves Elena!” Hey, if you don’t agree, that’s cool! I’m not here to blow raspberries in the faces of people who disagree with me, just stating my little ‘ol thoughts.
How many days before February? Egads, I better find something to pass the time *starts twiddling thumbs impatiently*
Sarah I agree with you 100%. I don’t see the Bonnie/Damon pairing either. I too believe it’s more of him starting to have feelings for humans in general. I am also intrigued as you stated by the love, hate, humorous bantering that goes on between Damon and Elena. It seems like a more realistic relationship. I don’t want Stefan miserable as so many have also stated but, I am a Damon/Elena shipper. I’m hoping he wins the girl even if it might be unlikely.
I wish Damon and Elena would just plow eachother already.
Stefan is a pussy. Damon an Elena belong together.
i just think that they have amazing sexual tension…. and stefan and elena dont have very much, if any.
And Bonnie, yea shes adorable but i think she belongs with matt….. he just hasnt realised it yet.
And stefan, after Elena finally realises she belongs with Damon, he will find another girl. MAYBE CAROLINE? im just saying..
OMFG! I need to read it NOWWWWWW! XD I want her to stay with Stefan tho, and Damon to be with Bonnie…. oh wait! What about Stefan and Bonnie!? No one probably would see that coming :O NOOOO don’t do it Stefan! XPPPP
Damon and Elena SHOULD be together, but making it happen will probably be heart breaking. Poor Stefan. Stefan and Elena are great, but way too innocent in their love. They are heart-warming and sweet, too sweet. Damon brings out the passion and fire inside of Elena and even though he may fight it, Elena makes Damon want to be a better Vampire, one worthy of her. Matt and Bonnie should be together as well. Bonnie is way too timid and whinny for Damon. Matt likes the Damsel in distress, which Bonnie surely is, annoyingly so. I don’t quite get the Meredith and nerdy-guy thing. Something one way or another has to come of that, if not, why even make the connection? I’m extremely anxious for the next book. This excerpt was such a flippin’ tease. I wanted to scream how it ended. If she is a shadow soul they could’ve ended there. At least we’d have a name to put to it even if we do have to wait for the explanation!
sarah acctully i never really thought of it that way forget what i said
omg that was awsome but i want damon and bonnie to get together because in the previous books elena says that with stefan she feels like she is home. and i think there is sexual tension between damon and bonnie.she is his littlebird and she was the first person that helped him get out of his shell.and with her he actually liked following the rules.
and also what will happen to stefan if damon and elena get together he will be crushed and i cant stand that .and about matt i like him but i dont think he should end up with elena or bonnie because elena is just to mature and good for him and bonnie well he doesnt take her seriously and there is no passion between them.
I am a torn fan. I would prefer to see Elena with Damon, but I also love Stefan and do not want him to have nothing. The thing is, though, I fear that the author will have Elena end up with Stefan because that is usually the way a series works. The first guy a girl likes, loves, and wants is the one she usually ends up with (i.e. Twilight). It is a typical author thing (sooo sad). Plus, Elena has it engraved in her brain that Stefan is the one she\’s supposed to be with. That mental part can play a huge part in her decision process. If she keeps telling herself that she does not want Damon, she will not end up choosing him, right?
argh this comes out on my 18th birthday. . . . love it! and look people we all know that there is this attraction between elena and damon but to be honest i think damon just wants what he cant have and elena obviously loves stefan more so yeah stefan and elana should be together and bonnie and damon should be together. however they could all be together lol . . . . that would be wierd
Okay. Let’s get this out. I absolutely want Elena to stay with Stefan. I think it would be stupid for her to be with Damon. Damon just latched on to Elena. Elana and Stefan’s relationship was first. If Elena goes with Damon, I am done with the show and the books. My interest will be gone. I like how the keep having Elena in the middle of a love group with three willing guys. But I think what Elena and Stefan shares is way different. Elena describes how she was always looking for something and Stefan made her feel what she thought she was missing. I realize that she loves Matt but she also says more like a brother in the book. So I am excited to read the next book. I really hope that I am not disappointed. I think they can all live together but Elena and Damon do not have to be linked sexually. If Elena and Damon get together I think Elena will realize that it is a mistake and we all know that Stephan would take her back. I just think this would be a irrelevant part of the story.
Also I forgot Damon can have any girl and Stephan has never wanted a girl since Katherine and then Elena I think he deserves to be happy. Stephan should not chose to become human but instead something crazy should happen and make Elena a vampire again. This would have the books and show go on longer. By the way the show is the coolest. You have no idea how many people I hear saying it is a twilight rip off. I tell them the books came out over ten years before. They all reply the books may have but the show is not really foloowing the books so it is a copy cat. I totally disagree with this. My sister in law happens to be one of those people and next week I am planing to go to their house and make her watch the show so that she can realize what a good show it is. The latest episode was my favorite.
we will just have to agree to disagree Becca, I would love to see Damon and Elena end up together. Damon MAY have started out wanting Elena because of Stefan (that’s yet to be clarified) but even early on in the original trilogy Stefan tells Elena “I would leave if I thought it would do any good, but I don’t think Damon would follow me now because of you,” That implies even back then that Stefan knew Damon had deep feelings for Elena. He says it in Nightfall too In his letter to Elena, that Damon loves her and would never harm her.
Don’t get me wrong I love Stefan too. But I actually enjoy the relationship between Damon and Elena more. It seems TOO easy with Stefan and Elena. He caves to her every whim. I love the fact Damon and ELena butt heads and he stands up to her. It may very well end with Elena staying with Stefan, I guess I could live with that because I dont dislike him, But I sincerely hope Damon and Elena end up together. JMO
omfg. did you guys see the spoiler for the third book? LMAO. now im sad
Oh man, I did. I won’t say anything on here…but geeze. I really have no idea how she’s going to work that out.
me too sarah, me too.
i cant wait to read it, but im terrified im going to cry my ass off
which is a good thing
but bad at the same time
lol
goshness, i love these books :]
OMG!
I read the spoiler and I can’t believe I was right back on Oct 11th?!?!?!
Well almost. But good enough for me! I think I could be Bonnie’s witch cousin or something.
Aleksandra on Oct 11, 2009
Damon can have any girl? Er…I’m not sure that flies with me. Damon can seduce any girl, Damon can have a one night blood-sucking fling with any girl but really so could Stefan (especially if he started drinking human blood, both have sufficient mind powers to accomplish the deed) the one thing Damon can’t seem to develop is a real, functioning, true love relationship with any girl. Except for Elena (oh there relationship certainly isn’t functional, but at least he connects with her on a level that’s more than just “let me sink my teeth in your neck” it’s there, but he actually loves her, not just the basic vampire need to feed.) I loved the scene at the beginning of Nightfall where Damon is replacing Stefan’s letter and he sees Elena sleeping. Instead of an ache in his canines, he felt an ache in his chest, rather then hungrily gazing at the veins in her neck he stares with longing at her lips. He wants to kiss her–badly (which of course is something vampires don’t do.)
Elena and Stefan’s relationship is special, it’s beautiful, but as Carol Anne said, to easy for my liking. Now I know probably, lets say, eighty percent of most VD fans disagree with me. Ah well, that’s the wonderful thing about forum discussions, so many wonderful different opinions.
Now, there seems to be a lot more discussion regarding whether Damon loves Elena as apposed to whether the feeling is reciprocated. As things stand right now I find it impossible to believe that Elena loves Damon as much as Stefan (there just isn’t anything to go one, I want evidence here!
) BUT as stated in a previous comment, Smith revealed in an interview that — “”…And it’s really the story, whatever my publishers may think and whatever other people may not want, it’s the story of Elena falling in love with Damon to the same extent that she is in love with Stefan. So we have a real love triangle.” — ja-eeze, I can only hope. Wonder how that’s going to work out… I don’t think the Stelena relationship will ever really end, that is, they won’t break up. That doesn’t count out the idea of a Stefan-Elena-Damon relationship, it’s more than a little weird but I guess everyone wins then…right? O.O
And now with the new spoiler out my brain is really muddled. I had to pull my jaw off the floor.
Most of my comments are like bloody freaking novels in themselves…I give props to anyone who reads all my relatively pointless rambling.
Wowow! What’s the new spoiler?? Where may I find it?
Vampire-diaries.net has it, scroll down and it’s on the second page. It’s the summary for The Return: Midnight.
wow. I wish I hadn’t read that spoiler! I mean, it’s amazing- but I feel like I cheated!! oh my goodness, how can I wait patiently now?? lol
i wish it was 2010 already
OMFG!!! I can not believe that was soooooooo gooooood, i reckon that shadow souls is going to be the best book so far. i can not wait till march 16!!
I came in around 2005 reading this book, having heard nothing about it.
So, I was unaware of the couples and anything like that.
I remember, I was on a cruise, and I hated the first few chapters of the first book.
Don’t get me wrong, it was interesting so I kept reading it. When Damon came in, I was obsessed.
I fell for his character and his characters longing for Elena.
So I bought the others, and now I have read all of them.
I still ship Damon/Elena because she makes him a better vampire and Stefan and Elena, in the end, would grow tired of each other.
The only thing that strengthened their bond is Damon, because they kept fighting for each other because of him.
But when he’ll be gone… they will be so sick of each other and their ‘perfect’ love.
It isn’t real.. that type of love and LJ is good with that.
That’s why she is on Team Damon too.
I really think that either Damon or Stefan will die in the end. Damon could die sacrificing himself for Elena, or Stefan could die sacrificing his love for his brother and Elena, realizing that she will be taken care of.
OH BTW,
New spoiler.
In midnight, Damon becomes mortal. Maybe LJ is giving us a clue that Damon and Elena will end up together as humans.
I am so hopeful.
ahah what a killer
OMG I NEED TO READ MORE!!!!!!!!! The book comes out March 16.
Ok, so I cannot make up my mind what I like better! Ive always loved Elena and Stefan together, but when Damon came along, I totally fell in love with him! He is my favorite character and right now I cant make up my mind whether I like Delena or Stelena!
At the moment I am all for Delena because of this teaser! It is so perfect! It really shows how much Damon really cares for Elena and Elena doesnt do anything to stop him coming onto her like that, so its obviouse she wants him to. I would love to see Damon and Elena together, however I dont think I could bare to see Stefan hurt so badly!
So….I am left with no other decision, but to hope that the 3 of them work it out! I know that it is weird, but I dont want to see either Stefan or Damon get hurt! I know this is exactly what Katherine wanted, but unfortunately it didnt work out for her, but Im hoping that both Stefan and Damon will have learned from their past mistakes and this time make it work out. I know Im probably stretching here, and this will probably never happen, but hey…I can dream! haha!
I really think that Damon and Elena will probably end up together because in on of the first books when Elena has the “marriage ritual”, Damon walks in. I dont know if that ritual actually worked but I think that might be LJs way of dropping us a hint!
SPOILER FOR MIDNIGHT! :
-As for Damon becoming a mortal!!!!! My jaw totally dropped when I read that! Im kind of upset that I read it, but now that makes me want to read it even more!!! Im definately excited to see how this plays out because it is just difficult for me to see Damon as a human!
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I also would love to see Bonnie and Matt together. There have been subtle hints about it, but I think Bonnie really needs someone as caring as Matt and also Matt really needs someone he can love because its obviouse Elena is not coming back to him.
I am also interested to see if there is anything more going to happen with Meredith and Alaric.
Sorry! This is really long, but I had a lot of thoughts! I applaud anyone who has read this far!!!! =)
I was about to post some stupid preachy pretentious comment about how we probably shouldn’t post spoilers on this page in case there are those who wish not to see them. Of course, I then realised that the article in itself is a spoiler, so hey, I guess if you don’t want spoilers your already in the wrong place. Go figure. We all have are deeerrrr moments, no?
Meh, it took me a while to warm up to the idea of Stefan and Damon “sharing” Elena (things like that just don’t work. I have a hard enough time sharing the bathroom mirror with my roommate, let alone a human being.) But since the book is about vampires and such, we obviously aren’t going for realism, so I’m just going to sit over here and wave my “everybody wins” flag. I want Delena, but I’ll settle for something that doesn’t result in eternal misery for poor wee Stefan.
Then again, happy endings are just super swell-tastic, but I kind of want something more…unpredictable. Yah right, don’t even go there, you’re wondering why I’m even bothering reading YA fiction if I don’t want a fun cliche or two. It’s not that I want an unhappy ending (does anyone?) just something more than having each character happily paired off (well, there might be one odd man out. Probably Matt if things boil down to a Stefan/Elena relationship. Sad face.) skipping off through a field of daisies as a happy unicorn flies overhead singing a jolly tune. Well, that’s my two cents, you don’t have to agree with it. By all means, disregard it completely if you so feel the need to…
i know what the secret is! damon just found out that elena is in looooooooove with him!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN ABOUT MORTAL DAMON??????!!!!!!!!! Are you KIDDING ME?!!!!! nooooooooooo. i dont like this at ALL. grrrrrr… im just going to pretend its false.
ANYWAY, about the spoiler. LOVE it. LOVELOVELOVE it. i realllllyyyyyy love stefan, but, i mean, seriously…do stefan and elena have the effect that damon and elena do? THEY BETTER HAVE SEX AFTER THIS SCENE, that’s all im going to say.
with the bonnie + damon thing, no offense to any fans, but…i just really don’t see then together. then again, things may change a lot, but i really think bonnie and matt are more compatible. and truth be told, i’d much rather LJ Smith stick to one love triangle (namely stefan, damon, and elena, of course)
omg did u guys see the vampire diaries -new chapter promo it is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo awesome i cant stop watching it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG i luv luv LUV damon and elena they should be a couple already and i think the secret is what everyone is saying that elenas a virgin. just a question: why dont you think they didnt put meredith on the tv show? oh i just cant waiy until shadow soulds comes out its feburary 9 or 7 i dont remember which…
Fair enough, so Damon was originally attracted to Elena based on the fact that she looks like Katherine. So? So was Stefan, yet no one seems to question the validity of his feelings. It would seem that both brothers were initially attracted to her for that very reason. Why is it fair to say that the only reason Damon loves Elena is because she looks like Katherine (which I think it quite obviously is not) yet if you rebuttal it with the fact that maybe Stefan only loves Elena because she looks like Katherine (which I wholeheartedly believe isn’t true in the least) you get audible outrage.
You say ” i know for a freakin fact that if u were a vampire and were madly in love with your lover, he/she dies then a katrillion years later see a look-a-like and every moment and memory u have had with that same person in the past is haunting you and makes u want to continue that relationship with that look-a-like!” Why does this statement only seem valid when you talk about Damon? Hello! Stefan was Katherine’s lover too. Yes he has made it obvious that he loves Elena for the person she is, but I believe that Damon has as well. I might add, this is only regarding the books.
It developed into something more, just as the initial allure between Stefan and Elena did. All the BS that Damon goes through for Elena, he risks his life, gives up his memory. In fact if we’re going to go by evidence suggested in the books there is far more to prove that Damon loves Elena based on her personality than anything to suggest he loves Bonnie.
The one thing we do seem to agree on is that Stefan should not have to get the shaft. This really is the only thing I deeply resent regarding Delena, poor wee Stefan hasn’t done anything to deserve that kind of hurt and betrayal. I really don’t like the idea of Stefan suffering like that, which is why I don’t consider myself a devout Damon/Elena shipper at all. I like the pair, but I ultimately don’t think it would work out unless something awfully dramatic was to occur.
JUST THINK ABOUT IT PPL! XD
I also disagree that Damon only loves Elena because of the similarities in her and Katherine looks. If that were the case than he would have taken Katherine up on her offer of being with her after she killed Elena and Stefan. I believe that him turning Katherine down (and harshly) shows that he truly cares for Elena.
Also, considering that in this series Vampires aren’t really into sex, I think that Elena really might be a virgin. This business about her ‘new aura’ making vampires want her the way they haven’t wanted a woman since they were turned, sort of hints that her and Stefan haven’t gotten there yet. I really like the love triangle thats going on, but I hope in the end Elena chooses Damon. I have a feeling that she’ll choose Stefan though. But maybe she’ll lose both?
I’m also really excited to find out what Meredith’s secret is in ‘Midnight.’
i don’t get it. what’s the big deal about elena being a virgin?
anyway, my conclusion is maybe he found out that she’s in love with him(:
can someone please tell me when shadow souls is coming out? cuz some say march 16 and others say february 9 or whatever and i am really confused!
My prediction: The secret is that Elena is his soulmate. He says everyone else was saying one thing, and his mind was telling him something else. Everytime she sees him, she feels something deep within her soul, and back in book two when she woke up as a vampire she thought she was born to be with Damon and loved him.
I feel bad for Stephan, because he does love her, and he was always good to her, but Damon is who she needs to be with.
****SPOILER******
LJ Smith’s own site says that in Shadow Souls, to enter Hell, the girls, Meredith, Bonnie, and Elena have to enter as slaves to a vampire (Damon). Then for Midnight, on the amazon.uk. site it says that price to free the prisoner Stephan, Damon must become human.
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I hope Elena remains human, and thus chooses Damon, because he is now human. It wouldn’t work out with Stephan, him remaining a vampire, and not aging etc.
Perhaps during this teaser scene, they do end up doing it physically, and Elena conceives a half-vampire/half-human child? Then Stephan can raise it if its more vampirish.
I don’t know, just a thought.
I don’t know how Stephan will get a happy ending though. Maybe
Of course Stefan and Elena will end up together. Because seriously, if you take away you biast opinions and think about the story.. then you’ll see its the ONLY option.
Stefan and Elena have loved each other for 5 books, she died for him.. he has loved her, as a human, a vampire a spirit and human again.
They have loved only each other. If you think they have an easy relationship then you don’t understand their relationship AT ALL.
They have a deeper connection than anything she would ever have with Damon.. Stefan is her heart, her soul.. they are one!
Stefan and Elena have something Damon will never be able to touch.
Yes, they’ll have Elena fall for Damon in the next book to bring in drama..so that she could ‘choose’ between them in the last book. But after everything Stefan and Elena have been through together, it would be a ripoff if they didn’t end up together.
Damon’s obsession with Elena isn’t healthy, its selfish and i think he might sacrifice himself for Stefan’s happiness. Damon for the first time he would put his brother’s happiness in front of his own, because he knows, they are made for each other.
Everyone knows this, and he is just delaying the evitable.
Or he’ll end up with Bonnie, because she brings out something caring, something pure and unselfish in him..
But, one thing i can only see, Stefan and Elena must end up together, even the non shippers (I mean, non shippers of anyone in the triangle) can see that even though they may not like them, its obvious to see its always been Stefan for Elena and vice versa.
And LJS says she believes in happy endings, and i don’t see DE ending up together, with Stefan leaving or dying a happy ending to me! Especially all Stefan and Elena have been through to be together.
The past 5 books has shown their undying, eternal love and devotion for each other, so why would anyone want it any other way.
If Damon human to free Stefan I would be very very very upset, since this is the one thing Stefan has always wanted Then again, it could make sense because sometimes Damon does seem to come in second. Although, me being a believer (and I think experienced) in true love I think Stefan and Elena need and should end up together. There has never been another choice for Elena other than Stefan. I think any other feelings she has for Damon, or anyone for that matter, do not compare to how she feels for Stefan. There connection is on a different more definite level. Although Damon is exciting and it could work, I think Damon is attracted to Elena because she is unattainable and has changed his view on his life (or lack there of lol.) She, along with her friends, taught him that he didn’t have to hate or resent humans. For some reason I feel Stefan and Elena are a bond that cannot be broken even though there are many many temptations. I don’t believe Stefan would be mad if anything happend between Elena and Damon while he was away (to see if the feelings are real) because he knows he and Elena are meant to be.
I don’t want Damon or Stefan to be unhappy and really uncertain about the Damon/Bonnie scenario. I don’t find it that believable but it would be a quick fix. Maybe Damon will realize he doesn’t want to hurt his brother, or hell maybe they both will, and let him have Elena without questioning it.
Another theory though, as much as wish this could not be the case, is if Kathrine was Stefans TRUE LOVE. Not saying Elena wasn’t meaningful but just not meant to be compared to Damon. The marriage thing with the chair can represent although I think Damon did that purposely. This could also happen with Damon realizing Kathrine was his true love. In the TV series they definitely make him seemed more focused on her rather than Elena.
Let me know your thoughts. I love reading this and hearing everybodys ideas. It really makes me wonder even though I do hope for Stefan/Elena. I do want Damon and all the other characters happy. Can’t wait for the March 2010 release!!!!!! So far away though
I read the teaser and the spoiler, and now I am in more suspense than ever!!!!! I have just recently started reading this series, it only took me 4 days to read all 5 of them. I am most def. Team Damon. He and Elena just have an amazing chemistry that really works for them, they don’t have to try and have passion for each other it’s just something automatic for them. I feel that Stefan and Elena kinda have to work at having a relationship like that. I think that a relationship isn’t something you should have to work at to have love it should just be there when you have feeling for someone. I mean Stefan always plays it safe and PREDICATABLE!!!! Damon however you never fully know what he is going to do next. It is always a suprise. I like that you don’t want to be with someone that is boring, you want to be with someone that can be extremly unpredicatable. Damon is spontanious and I like that in a guy. I think that if he becomes a mortal he and elena will most likely end up together. She doesn’t want to be a vampire, never once in the books did she say that. However she did say that she didn’t like what she had become(somewhere along those lines) That means that she and stefan cannot be together forever because he is not a mortal he won’t age. So if Damon becomes a human of course she is going to be with him he will age and they could be together their whole lives. I truly hope that Damon and Elena end up together they just belong together no matter what anyone says. March feels like it is forever away!!!!!!
TEAM DAMON!!!!!!!!
I love the teaser and I am Sooooooooo team Damon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
holy crap! someone wrote this, (sorry i can’t find your name) but this person mentioned that STEFAN might end up sacrificing himself for damon and elena, and that he knows that she’ll be safe with him! i’m totally rooting for that to happen!
and the part in the first book during the dumb supper and damon walks in!
maybe when l.j. smith wrote that it was her original plan to have more books after the original and dark reunion, so she could have an elena damon twist, but she waited so long to make it really good, and now is the perfect time for a vampire series, that is the one thing twilight was ever any good for!
matt and bonnie is also alot more likely then damon and bonnie. and as for caroline… probably no one, and for anyone who actually thinks its elena, i pity you ![]()
team damon
why is it that damon is crying?
is it because he’s letting his guard down?
any thoughts?
****SPOILER****
btw on amazon for the last book in the trilogy it says Damon has to become human. i don’t know how its possible or if its true but according to them it is to save stefan. i wonder where they got the info.
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thanks any ideas/thoughts are apperciated!
i think damon spoils stefan’s life everytime by talking away his love and fighting with him. if elena really loves stefan she shouldn’t have any problem choosing. damon could have liked many girls in fell church but there is something powerful abt elena which attarts him to her only.elena is in confusion and we have to just wait for L.J to open up the mystery.History repeats itself, this proverb is pretty popular . This situation is just becoming what happened with katherine in the past, a love triangle but elena isn’t stupid like katherine to have 2 husbands so i think she might choose stefan and damon will die to save elena or will have a memory loss and forget abt elena. Matt and Bonnie are a couple thats for sure.Matt protects bonnie and bonnie likes to be in matt’s arms in times of danger and that is mostly always. i luv damon but he wants elena to be his princess of DARKNESS. elena came back as a angel and angels always take the good side. elena luvs damon too coz she knows from inside damon is really soft and good.Stefan is the onbe who struggles the most. he knows that his brother is stronger than him and can make elena fall in luv wd him, So its a hard time for him from the past as he tries to make katherine come back to him and maybe he will try the same thing with elena if elena ditches him.
so i am dam excited for the release of this and the next book .
can’t wait for 16th march 2010 and 9th december 2010
Rimil– Damon dosen’t want Elena to be his “pricess of darkness” any more, i think the only time in nightfall when he said that was after his memory was erased.
i feel like she can’t choose both..it would appear that she would end up with stefan (sort of like the twilight story; she loved jacob but edward was her soul mate)..but i really don’t think that damon can take the rejection after katherine..that would just be too harsh…I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!..it’s driving me crazy…but the secret could be that she was a virgin…he could have realized that since her and stefan haven’t sealed the deal yet it kind of means that he still has a chance…but then he said something about how everyone was telling him one thing, and his own mind was telling him something else…who is everyone else (does he even talk to other people)…but maybe it was people telling him that she loves Stefan and he had no chance making him even happier that he knows he does have a chance because she is a virgin…but anyways im very excited!!!!!!
one last thought…pretty sure damon and bonnie are not going to end up together (then that whole bonnie and matt storyline was there for no reason”..i think that whole connection between damon and bonnie was too show that he had some heart in him and that he can care about people (at this time people may not have been too sure if he liked elena or was just trying to make stefan mad)
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Elena and Damon are perfect! At first I thought that she should be with Stefan, but I changed my mind, Damon and Elena are meant to be. Can’t wait for this book!!!!!!!!! I really hope that Damon and Bonni don’t end up with each other, I think she’d be way better off with Matt, don’t know what will happen with Stefan, I just hope he and Elena don’t get back together. Maybe he’ll fall in love with someone else?That would be nice. I wonder what will happen with Meredith and Bonnie while they’re gone. They’d better still be in the next book, or else! By the way, wonder what the big secret is? Really can’t wait to find out what that is!!!! I think I know what it is, kind of. I think it might have something to do with when she was a spirit, or something like that.
I am soooooooooooooooo excited for the next book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i dont get it? what does that have to do with what happens at the end of the last book dark reunion? can someone explain this to me i think i missed something
i think the secret is that he now knows Elena dose love him,at least i hope that is what it is.i want for Elena and Damon end up together.i would not have said that in the first two books but i do know mabey katherine could come back and be with Stefan,or Katherine and Damon.But we all know that Elena will end up with Stefan there is just no way they could be apart,you read how sad she is and if Stefan died or fell in love with someone else she would kill herself
Don’t know how long it’s been there, but there seems to be a short synopsis of Shadow Souls on Wikipedia (not that it delves into many details, in fact most of it has already been leaked or at the least is fairly predictable) I have no clue if it’s accurate, or if perhaps a copy has been leaked somewhere, but it’s certainly there. Again, I don’t know how long it’s been there or if this is something new or worth posting. Just thought I’d alert those who might be interested.
Urgh….so aggravating!!!! I want Elena and Damon to be together sooooooo bad but if u read any of the other LJ Smith books…she always lets the girl end with the “good” boy (except for gabriel and kaitlyn ofcourse)
i think that elena and damon should be together because elena even adimits that when she with damon she feels exeid when she with him but when she is with stefan it is soooooooo boring I love stefan but he does not belong with elena maybe with merdith TEAM DAMON 4 EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY STEFAN!!!!!!!!!
i think that elena and damon should be together because elena even adimits that when she with damon she feels exied when she with him but when she is with stefan it is soooooooo boring I love stefan but he does not belong with elena maybe with meredith.
TEAM DAMON 4 EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY STEFAN!!!!!!!!!
i think that elena and damon should be together because elena even adimits that when she with damon she feels exied when she with him but when she is with stefan it is soooooooo boring I love stefan but he does not belong with elena maybe with meredith.
TEAM DAMON 4 EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY STEFAN!!!!!!!!!
i think elena should b with damon they belong 2gether. bonnie says hersself damon is evil so that would never work. i think i no her secret so if im rite shell turn 2 damon and stefan will b out 4 gd. bye bue stefan.
TEAM DAMON 4EVA…………………………………………………… BYE BYE TEAM STEFAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG…left in limbo! I just finished reading NightFall this evening and then reading this piece….and my name being ELENA, and loving Damon (Ian!! )…my heart is quivering!! That should be me! I’ll take him anytime! I hope that’s what will happen, it would be a huge turn-of-events because we know that Elena loves Stefan. Sometimes I feel sorry for Damon.
Hey guys,
just thought of something that might be meaningful to the outcome of the book.
although i am a stefan lover i want to make reference to the cover of the books:
1&2: stefan
3&4: katherine (i believe she looks more immortal)
5: elena
6. damon
It could be possible that there is a reason behind it, since it seems like the covers are meant to be pieced together. I would be devasted if Elena and Stefan didn’t end up together BUT Katherine did say was more partial to Stefan, which further backs this up.
Your thoughts are always apperciated please share!
-Ashley
True Love…does no one believe in it anymore?…Stefan is Elenas TRUE love, and she is his…we all experienced that with them…how can you turn your back on that…
Stefan was all Elena could understand when she came back…that is a connection strong than anything else…how could one even question it?
and by the way…Damon and Elena CANT have sex, because vampires can’t have sex….which is why Stefan and Elena can’t…
and Stefan would never choose Katherine…he has even said his love for Elena was more powerful than anything he ever felt for Katherine…
wait how come vampires can’t have sex?
and stefan and elena will defininely end up together, its fate.
bonnie and damon are meant to be together they both fit with each other. damon and elena will probably just end up having a fling but then elena will realize her true feelings for stefan.
not many people seem to notice just how many times it’s been implied that damon and elena will be together
1. the dumb supper, stefan doesn’t show up, it’s damon
2. “stefan is my launchpad, but damon is the wind beneath my wings” not looking to good for stefan
3. her saying that some of her time with damon was heaven
4. & i’m not exactly sure on this one, but it seems to be that the first real word she said as the angel-type thing was damon, then she said yes
!TEAM DAMON!
SOPILER DAMON IS GOING TO BE MORTAL IN SHADOW SOULS. NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CIRED ALL DAY BECAUSE I DON’T WHAT DAMON TO BE MORTAL.ALL BECAUSE OF DUM ASS STEFA I HEAT STEFAN TEAM DAMON 4 EVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS.I HOPE THERE IS AWAY FOR DAMON TO BE IMMORTAL.
SOPILER DAMON IS GOING TO BE MORTAL IN SHADOW SOULS. NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CIRED ALL DAY BECAUSE I DON’T WHAT DAMON TO BE MORTAL.ALL BECAUSE OF DUM ASS STEFA N I HEAT STEFAN PS.I HOPE THERE IS AWAY FOR DAMON TO BE IMMORTAL. TEAM DAMON 4 EVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i agree with you stefan is a BITCH TEAM DAMON !!!!!
Lol idk! We\’re I in Elena\’s position, I would have choosen Damon from the first moment i saw him. But knowing the idiot Elena, she\’ll prolly end p with that Stefan again -sigh-
-TEAM DAMON!!!-
Hahaha, yes Stefan is a bitch. I’m defs on team Damon. I have no idea what the secret is! Urgh >__<
I think Stefan and Elena will end up together sadly
Im pissed that Stefan && Elena aren’t together! Stupid Damon Salvatore! I want Elena && Stefan to be together, but stupid Damon had to ruin it for them! I hope Damon chooses Bonnie! (:
the secret issssssssss..tadadaaduummm:
she is his mate?????
LMAO…idk!
Damon&Elena belong together!! if not Damon walks away alone in shadows or dies!!
Yeah, and when she first became a vampire she thought she was in love with Damon. I agree with mac’n the signs are all pointing to Damon.
“stefan is my launchpad, but damon is the wind beneath my wings”
that could mean she first loved stefan and he got her going but damon is the one who keeps her going meaning she loves him more. but oh god i hope not.
Stefan&Elena not ending up together would be a HUGE slap in the fans to the fans.
Like WTF was the whole 5 books about then lol.
Elena’s love for Damon will never compare to her love for Stefan/ It’s just not even possible. She and Stefan have been through too much not to be together in the end.
LJS said, someone WILL die at the end of the series.
I can see this person as Damon, he is the type of character who would go out with a bang, and especially if he turns Human, he is more prone to death than say Stefan.
Thank you everyone, the first time i red this was in august and everyone was for stefan and elena & bonnie and damon.
I was so desperate like how can’t you see that elena loves damon!! I was also frustrated because almost everyone was for damon and bonnie… i was like did we read the same book??? How can someone see damon and bonnie together but can’t see all the hints about matt & bonnie !!
So that’s why i want to say thank you, now i don’t feel alone! Damon can’t be alone at the end. He finally fins love and Stefan’s gonna take all that away from him?? NO WAY!! (i know some team stefan fan will say that damon took that away from stefan… which is true but it’s different , Stefan is not Damon
)
SPOILERS —- Damon being a mortal will only bring him and Elena closer… which is REALLY GOOD!!
Sometimes, i hope stefan wasn’t there cause i don’t want him to be alone either… so why not erase him!!
lol sorry i don’t want that either
I think stefan at the end of the series will give up his life somehow to protect elena and feel comfort in it and tell elena dont worry my brother damon loves you and he will protect you and be with you always.Even if elena loves both of the brothers she will not have to choose. stefan would do a noble thing and let his brother and her be happy because damon is stronger and can protect her more.
erika, but then what would be the point of going through all the trouble to help him escape if he just says oh nevermind have her?
Personally I am team “Bamon/Donnie”.
I think the quirky red head (books) or the pretty multi ethnic chick makes a nice and frankly welcome change from the over played pretty blond (books-who physically seems to resemble LJ. Probably not a coincidence.) Or the (tv show) stunning brunette.
Perhaps, the death will be “only” that Damon dies as a vampire maybe he lives as a human.
Although, I am a fan of “Bamon/Donnie” it probably won’t happen. I think over the course of the remaining books we will find out that Damon has watched over Bonnie her whole life. I think he might have some weird paternal, protector, physical attraction thing going on for her.
Oh yeah…I do think that Elena has played with both Salvatore brother’s hearts from the beginning (total ego trip!) and if both were to decided “You know what I’ve had enough of this” I couldn’t say I would blame them.
Elena choice is pretty simple imo.
The whole series so far has shown has what SE would do for each other to be together.
And thats how it should be. All, Stefan wants to be live a happy life with Elena.
And thats how he should end up with Elena
Otherwise, it would be like STFU to the fans.
It would not be a ‘happy ending’ as LJS promised, the only people that would be happy would be DErs.
No matter what feelings Elena has for Damon, they don’t compare to what she feels with Stefan.
Nothing can.
And i do believe Damon knows this deep down.
Yes, there are some hints towards a Damon and Bonnie romance but anything that has been mentioned that concerns a mutual connection usually just has to do with looks. Bonnie describes him as beautiful, etc. There is no background of emotions there. And I don’t see Bonnie being very present in this upcoming novel since they are on the run/roadtrip to save Stefan. And as mentioned earlier, all of the emotions that Damon feels towards Bonnie, such as caring, etc, could easily be interpreted as his emotions towards humans expanding.
I think that Bonnie and Matt make a much better match. They seem to connect on a much deeper level. They seem to find comfort in each other unintentionally, and there is definitely some sort of emotions there. You can see how easily Matt gets jealous, etc.
As for the secret, God only knows. The books so far have gone beyond all natural limits, so there really is no way to limit just what powers Damon has and is unaware of. I am hoping though that it has something to do with them being together. There wouldn’t be an emphasis made on it being a room with one bed for no reason. Or at least that’s what I like to tell myself…
I really do think that Damon and Elena belong together. She has been in denial of her feelings, but they are so evident. The fact that she has faught them yet they are still there only proves just how deep they are, and they seem to be growing more and more. She is the only person who truly understands him and knows who he is beneath all of the stone layers. I don’t think that Bonnie or anybody else could begin to understand him if they tried, so for Damon to end up with anybody else but Elena would just be a tragedy.
Besides, Damon deserves her more! I think Stefan is a great guy and all, but the extent to which he whines and tries to be perfect and noble is just annoying. He constantly surrounds himself in self-pity. I find that Elena is more like Damon. Back before Stefan entered the picture she was the queen of the school; intentionally or not, she DID know how to manipulate guys and get her way. I sort of find that similar to Damon’s patterns, but maybe I’m just crazy.
Really though, how many times has Damon put his own life on the line to save or stay true to Elena and Stefan? He was willing to let Katharine kill him so that he didn’t break his word to them, he risked his life in an attempt to save Stefans from Klaus even though Stefan had, just before that, completely rejected him as his brother. Yet, still, everybody saw him as the bad evil guy who ruined Elena’s life, and Stefan still did not trust him. I honestly don’t think that Stefan would sacrifice as much for Damon as Damon has for him. When Elana drowned Stefan automatically assumed that it was Damon who killed her and attempted to kill him in revenge.
Anyways, yeah, I’m going to stop ranting now, that’s just my opinion!
I can’t wait till Shadow souls comes i am so excited I just finished Nightfall last night and I can’t wait to see what happens and then I can’t wait till Midnight comes out after that.
i luv damon he is so much better than stefan …….
elena shouuuuld choose him he loves her more than stefan but he just not good at showing it to her
i dont say i hate stefan but damon is something else………amazing ……
but i think l.j smith will turn damon into mortal so he would be with bonnie then and elena is with stefan but it will be so sad because i hate the damon/bonnie thing ,he just care about her cuz she always call him for help ,and that makes him happy that someone believes in him
daaaaaaaaamon team forever (sorry for the bad english)
elena and damon belong with each other. stefan said it himself damon will take care of her he knows how the world works . and to turn damon into a human again would not go over well me but i really want something bad to happen to stefan so i can rub it into my friends faces. hahaha TEAM DAMON FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, I am almost done with reading the Return. I am truly disappointed in the fact that Stefan is gone and Elena is becoming attached to Damon. I mean we all knew this would happen at some point. I like Damon, in fact I like all of the characters. But some things are meant to be and one is Stefan and Elena. Not her with Damon. He can go on and be happy and he wont be alone forever. Even if it isnt Bonnie, it could be someone else.
I think that they do need to explore their feelings for each other, but then move past it. It will never be what she has with Stefan.
So much of this story reminds me of The Twilight Saga it isnt funny. But I know how that story ends and I am rooting for the same ending here.
We are all entitled to our own opinions and this is mine.
Lets just enjoy the works of L.J. Smith and leave it at that.
You have said that Damon will be mortal again. I think that it would be the perfect excuse for L.J Smith to make Damon ends up with bonnie. I don\’t like the way that I think is going to end … ¬¬
Because I want Damon and Elena together
I think the secret is that Elaina has feelings for Damen and that she is a virgin.
Elaina and Damen have a more lusty relationship that has no real feelings.
Stephen and Elaina are much more ‘in love’.
For the relationship part of things Elaina and Stephen, Bonnie and Matt, Meredith and Alaric, and Damen goes back to being his normal self that hates everybody. It could be possible that he has a change of heart and starts hanging around more and becomes a nice guy…
I don’t like the “Alaina choosing both brothers” in my opinion that is icky and you can’t have cake and eat it too. (But u can have cake and eat someone else’s piece of pie)
Anticlimactic but isn’t that how all stories end?
So DE shippers don’t count as fans now?
happy endings are subjective, and although I’m sure there are many fans who would view Elena and Damon ending up together an atrocity (or just plain unrealistic if you ask me), to disregard their opinions as those of unreal fans who don’t understand the story seems a little like a slap in the face to them too, no? Opinions are just opinions, interpretations belong solely to the one who’s making them, there will ALWAYS be an unhappy fan even if a happy ending is promised.
I don’t think a DE relationship will be the end result of this series, I really don’t. Most of what the SE shippers have said is unarguably true, Stefan and Elena’s relationship has been developing for four books (I’m not counting Nightfall, Stefan only made the first fifty pages) and disregarding that wouldn’t make much sense at all. That said, I don’t think it’s impossible for Elena to feel the love for Damon that she does for Stefan. There relationship is real, it’s there and I think it will boil down to something a lot deeper and more difficult for Elena to handle than we can speculate at the moment.
How many days left, anyone? This is taking way to long…
Im pretty sure it comes out February 9th so only 31 days left to live in this torcher! BTW TEAM DAMON ALL THE WAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN’T THE DAMN BOOK COME OUT ALREADY?!!?
but even so, it comes out, all us fans read it in like 6 hours and then what were waiting for another year to figure out how its really gonna end! you know it’s gonna end with some cliffhanger with damon and elena really taking a liking to each other.
i’m a SE fan and think thats how it will end. you guys are right why develop for 4 books just to destroy.
does anybody else think the covers might have meaning though?
also could some people give me their thoughts on why damon is crying?
is it because he let his guard down?
thanks
I think the covers might have meaning to! And where is everyone reading that damon is going to turn mortal? If u know PLEASE tell me cuz I am dying to know this!
I am a Damon and Elena fan and this is just my opinion ashleylovez but I think she spent all that time building up stefan and Elena’s relationship for the past 5 books because she thinks we are all suspecting they will go together because a lot of people are thinking that but because they are thinking that I think she will flip it around to surprise us.
on amazon if you type in the book it has a summary there that includes it and on wikipedia.
go to vampire-diaries.net and it also has it there
they dish on the details of the show and update regularly
I know damon becoming mortal is huge.But think if damon wants to be a vampire agian stefan can always turn him or another vampire can.Did anyone ever think about that.
I know damon becoming mortal is huge. But think if damon wants to be a vampire agian stefan can always turn him or another vampire can. Did anyone ever think about that.
See the thing is, as far as Damon needing Elena more because he’s a stronger vampire but not person, Stefan needs Elena just as much. Bonnie realized in the Dark Reunion (or The Fury, I forget which) that Elena is it for Stefan– he will never be able to get over her or love anybody else romantically. Which means that, unless Stefan dies he will end up with Elena. L.J.’s website intro states that once you get past the darkness her books will always end happily and for Stefan that equals either Stefan/Elena or maybe Stefan/Elena/Damon.
Personally, I love both Stefan’s and Damon’s characters so I think each deserves a girl who loves and wants only them. But that leaves Damon out since Stefan and Elena won’t be breaking up…
Bonnie and Matt, I agree, should be together. I also agree with what some of you have said about those two ending up together being a major possibility– in the same scene I talked about in my first paragraph Bonnie compares Matt and Stefan thinking that Matt is able to get over Elena and has begun to (as opposed to Stefan not being capable).
And I really really hope Damon gets his full memory back in Shadow Souls!
I thought that if Damon turned mortal that Stefan could change him back to. But then I got to thinking that maybe Stefan doesnt want to change him back. Maybe he wants to get revenge for all the times Damon has won over him. It doesnt seem like his personality but I would go crazy to if I was stuck where he is.
I don’t agree with you mystery. I think that if Damon really would be mortal again Stefan won’t change him back because he has always been sorry for killing and sentenced Damon in the past. Maybe Elena (If Stefan would turn her into a vampire ¬¬) will do it. I don’t Know.
I’m not here to have anyone agree with me. I am here to state my opinion like everyone else. Too me that would be a pretty amusing book. But if that ever did happen I would hope Elena would go with Damon cuz personaly I really hate Stefan character.
stefan would never turn elena into a vampire…again. he cares about her to much and you know what they say “if you really love someone you have to let them go.”
damon says they won the fight not the battle; so i think stinchi is going to kill stefan.
damon and elena for eternity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think elena and stefan will end up together because they r perfect togther and it would b to weird for her not to choose stefan. but i do think elena is going to do wat katherine did, elena probaly will have a relationship with both stafan and damon. and i think bonnee would b better with matt. o and i also think that elenas secret is that she is a virgin and thats y damon kissed her because he wants to b the 1 to take it away from her.
P.S: i thought the next book comes out in march, march 9 or 16th?
TVD The Return: Shadow Souls is going to be released March 16th you can preorder on amazon.com
in march !! i thought it was in february… one another month to wait for these answers!
I hate that Stefan can\’t find someone else cause i want Delena but i can\’t live with stefan being alone. He\’s a nice guy and a nice guy shouldn\’t be alone. But still i don\’t agree with Stelena either cause i don\’t want Damon to be alone. His life is so much better since he met Elena that it would be terribly wrong that he doesn\’t have her. He deserves her!
She\’s a lucky girl (it\’s fiction but anyway…) she has 2 guys who can do everything for her and who trully love her …
heeey,
i havent read this chapter yet,
but i read the starting bit from the person
that posted this, and thanks btw.
but i would of liked to see merideth
with damon, ( i dont no why but i would becuase she seems to hate him and it would be funny if they found out that they have a secret love for each other, lol ) and Elana with Stefan and Bonnie with Matt cuz its obvicious he has a crush on her, that way everyone has a bf.,
heey, commenting again after i read it,
im really, curiuos as to wat the secret iss!
i mean at first i thoguht he found out she was an
angel and that was stupid cuz he already knew
then i read comments and thought that damon found out that she loves him, but.. she mentions in her diary she loves him so that means shes knows… i also was wondering about elana being a virgin, and the hole a kiss is just a kiss and you cant fool a vampire, but as people commented if she was a virgin wouldnt Damon be more amused? i thought that would be more of his charector.
comment ideas about the secret thingy if you have any ideas pleaseee! im dieing to know wat it is.!
Also in trying to buy the vamprie diaries book online and i dfound out from people that it will be out in march, but on the online dymocks book store it says you can buy it but it will take 5-31 days for delivery heres link
http://www.dymocks.com.au/ProductDetails/ProductDetail.aspx?R=9780061990267
hope i hepleddd!
In the first book Bonnie says that she’s supposed to die young, so if Damon becomes a mortal there would be no way they could be together! Unless LJS forgot of course, or she has another awful editor who just doesn’t care.
And I know for a fact Stefan will never get over Elena, but she CAN get over him! She is human after all.
On L.J.Smith’s page it says shadow souls will come out on Febuary 9th. It must be right since its on her page. btw TEAM DAMON AND ELENA ALL THE WAY!
who knows when its gonna come out no later than March. but it has to go thru a long process to be ready to be released.
i do remember that snippet about bonnie dying young. just a thought but maybe damon dies defending bonnie. or same with stefan.
is it just me or does everyone else love this thread as much as me. i want to say thanks to all the helpful comments and to the people on this page who are never rude and jugdemental about others ideas.
who knows when its gonna come out no later than March. but it has to go thru a long process to be ready to be released.
i do remember that snippet about bonnie dying young. just a thought but maybe damon dies defending bonnie. or same with stefan.
is it just me or does everyone else love this thread as much as me. i want to say thanks to all the helpful comments and to the people on this page who are never rude and jugdemental about others ideas.
Oh yes, just sit and try to count all of the inaccuracies between the original four and Nightfall. Really, it starts out kind of fun than it just becomes depressing. Or in my case, infuriating (I have the chipped paint on the wall to prove it. Hardcover books make stinking awesome projectiles)
Seriously? March? February was bad enough. Of course I’d rather have the book come out in March and be well edited than for her to rush to get it out sooner, as someone already mentioned.
Bonnie. Has. To. Die. (don’t take that the wrong way, I’m not really that bitter and bitchy) it has nothing to do with the fact that I don’t like Bonnie, because I have nothing against her, I just think there are a lot of really great story lines or possible book endings there if she takes that route. Why even include that in the story if you didn’t plan to take it somewhere? Maybe I’m just reading to much into things…
Well I’m on damon’s side I think he should get
elena because Damon is always missing out
and because as Damon says that were made
for each other and they understand each other.
I also agree with someone else that Stefan should
die or some thing like that and say that it’s ok for
her and Damon to be together.
I think it would be a good ending to the books but
it could also be a good begining.Because then she
could wright about what damon and elena’s love
life would be like.
Hope she chosers Damon not Stefan because as someone
else siad Elena and Stefan it’s just to easy as for Damon
and Elena together lots of more interesting things could happen.
Damon and Elena.
Thay were made for each other.
And Bonnie shouldn’t die she and Matt would be great together.
Love the vampire diaries the books and the show.
Wish Shadow souls was out now so I could read it.
Damon and Elena would be a great story well bye.
Omg! I just realize that if Matt and Bonnie are going to a couple, and she dies then Mutt (lollll) is going to be alone again! Poor Matt! But it seems like the right way to go…
I also think Bonnie should die. She just gets in the way of everything! I think Bonnie is kind of a brat. No offense to anyone, but I don\’t like her at all! Damon and Elena should be together! That would make it a good book!!!!!!!!!!!!
A very good book cause it’s a little bit different from: they lived happily ever after with her first love (in this case Stefan) –> BORING !! And Bonnie should die cause it will bring more action. Some people think Damon has a thing for Bonnie and Bonnie is Elena’s bestfriend. Then if she dies, Damon will be closer to Elena cause they will both feel each other pain… NO WAY!! That’s totally not Damon sorry!!
So the best way is Damon and Elena! end of story
ok ive read all 3 books and i really cant wait fro this one to come out but all you who think that damion and elena should be together . Thats just WRONG !!!! she loves stephan and and even says so through the whole book they look so good together sure theres a part of elena that wants damion but theres a bigger part that wants stephan !!!!!
i know ive posted comments on here before but wuld someone please explain why people think bonnie should die and elena and damion should b together …. by the way both of those things are soooooooo not rihgt (:
I definately dont want Bonnie to die! I love her character along with all the rest of them! But I think I know where people are coming from when they say that Bonnie should die. I think it’s in the first book where Bonnie mentions that her grandma or something told her she was going to die young and Bonnie just seemed to think that was Oh so romantic! If Bonnie’s grandmother was a witch like Im pretty sure it says she is…then that would mean she has a way of knowing those kind of things so it would make sense for what she said to come true and Bonnie would die young.
sooooo perfect *o*
damon crying wtf? I want it I need it u.u
Damon and Elena forever!!!!!! I don`t want her to be with stupid Stefan!!!!!! Damon and Elena are meant for each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stefan can go away and leave them alone!!!!
Damon should end up with Elena but it always ends up that that the pure love ends up together. But I think if i wanted to spend all eternity with someone it would be Damon he puts quite a spin on things. Bonnie and Stefen would be so much better off together. Woo Hoo Damon!!!
I think that Damon finds out that Elena is meant to be with him and that Elena is going to be his princess. I think Elena should be with Damon because she knows he can protect her no matter what. About Stefan I think that something bad happens to him and I can\\\’t wait. Hopefully I\\\’ll get the book for my b-day.
i think damon being human is almost like the last step to his humanity. at first, he hated humans. then he started to open up way more to humans but slowly. Next step would be human. I don’t think he would mind as much as everybody says he would. He would be upset not to live for eternity but thast about it.
WOW ! so great and can’t wait ! Damon and Elena are just ment to be !! I mean, he may be with bonnie for a while, but you are all crazy to think he will ever love her like he loves elena !! Bonnie is annoying !! Wow, love these books, can’t wait !
OMG!! This teaser was great! Now I need to get this book when it comes out and read it! I cant believe how nice damon is being.
OMG
Cannot Wait! For all of you that have been asking the book comes out next Wednesday- Jan. 27, 2010
OMG OMG OMG OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG……
What are you talking about the book being released on Jan 27? Isn’t it coming out in March? (If you know where to get it earlier please let me know.) Please tell me that I missed an important date re-change…
@ Melissa
“we have to strip because of the malach” – it’s like looking for a tick bite, I guess
@ everybody else
I simply don’t care who ends up with who, I just want to know what is it that he can see and taste in her tears, but not in her blood?
I am sooo totally team Damon. I love this ‘vamp’. I don’t necessarily want Bonnie to die but I have never particularly cared for her character either, shes too damn whiney. Hell, who knows maybe she will end up with Stefan, she thinks he’s cute, she thinks Damons cute, she thinks matt’s cute……. But, I do NOT want her to end up with Damon . I hope that is not how it ends up. I like Stefan but I am totally loving Damon’s character. It may not happen, most likely not, but I hope Damon and Elena end up together. Damon being human could actually help their cause, depending on if Elena is human or not, I’ve thought about that ‘dumb supper’ all along. Unless L.J. forgot about that, it would certainly suggest Damon and Elena end up married. I’ve read that part carefully and I know the point was made that Elena would need to keep her hand on the chair until the person sits down. And guess what……She keeps it on the chair until Damon sits down…. and what about the clock stopping. Just made it seem to me that the ritual was complete. Heres, to hoping LJ remembers that little tid bit…
Damon and Elena
Matt and Bonnie
Meredith and Alaric
Stefan and ?
UGH!!! Stefan and Elena! they belong woth each other. and damon belongs with bonnee!!! people are just weird to think that damon and elena should be together. O_O
TEAM-STEFAN
and twilight wise…… TEAM-EMMETT!!! all the way
Damon ad Elena are a MUCH better couple than Elena and Stefan, i think that Stefan and Matt should be together, seriously
: ) and Bonnie should be with no one she should DIE!
damon needs elena.
stephen wants elena.
who will she pick?
i think i know.
ill let you guys in on a little secret…. well not really.
dont forget about the dumb supper (bonnies spell she had elena do to see who she would marry.) and what do you know. damon shows up. tehehehehe. damon and elena deserve to end up with eachother.
I agree with Lauren N this book would be better if Damon ended up with Elena and Stephan somehow ended up with Kathrine. Maybe it’s just the fact i think in every story the underdog should win and to me Damon is the underdog because he has nothing except Elena while Stephan has made plenty friends i’m sure. The only person who can help Damon stop with his murderous ways is Elena. AND if he ended up with Bonnie that would be too obvious and picture perfect. To REALLY surprise the readers each character would have end up with the least expected companion. Who’s more obvious than witchy Bonnie? No one. I don’t know, just my opinion. Team Damon!!!
i agree with you christin
team damon 4 eve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i really hate stefan he is tooooooooooo much of a bitch sorry stefan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
team damon 4 eve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i really hate stefan he is tooooooooooo much of a bitch sorry stefan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
team damon 4 eve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i really hate stefan he is tooooooooooo much of a bitch sorry stefan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think Damon and Bonnie are adorable together. And Damon comes off as more kind and caring torwards Bonnie than to Elena. Damon has an obsession with Elena. I find Elena annoying. If she really loved either of them she woudn’t be torturing them like this.
I guess that that if I had to choose, Stefan needs Elena more. Going back to the beggining of the series Stefan was not a very happy guy before he met Elena. Damon on the other hand probally doesn’t even realize if what he feels for Elena is accually love or not, because he has probally never really loved anyone romanticly before, not even Kathrine (It has also been in question on what Damon’s true feeling towards Kathrine were).
It has to be Matt with Bonnie. They had so many hints with the pair of them. Bonnie and Damon was just so that he realised he actually cared for people. And Damon loves Elena.
Elena is a bit annoying, but I love her strength. I’ve been waiting for the book for ages ah. Just one more month.
LJ Smith said Elena will fall in love with Damon to the same extent she loves Stefan. Here is the snip from the interview below and you can also go to the link to read more of the interview including her saying Shadow Souls is her favorite book she has written :O)
Matthew Peterson: So there’s kind of like this love triangle going on.
L. J. Smith: Yes, and it’s a real love triangle because in the next group of books, Stefan has been kidnapped. And it’s really the story, whatever my publishers may think and whatever other people may not want, it’s the story of Elena falling in love with Damon to the same extent that she is in love with Stefan. So we have a real love triangle.
I love Damon and Elena!! The best couple by far and I really don’t like Bonnie:@ Hope Elena chooses Damon!!
WOW this just got really good lol…I can’t wait to read this book and I see why there would be a love triangle..I love Stefan but there’s something about Damon that makes me want him too lol…can’t wait!!!
im an avid Stefan supporter. i’ve noticed that in the books i definitely take wayyy more of a notice to Stefan, you can really tell how much Stefan and Elena love each other and how they belong together. But in the tv series I am seriously being more partial to Damon, Ian Somerhalder has this great edge to him and is perfect for the role of Damon. He’s quickwitted but you can tell hes sweet underneath it all. I feel like the connection between Elena and Stefan hasn’t devolped as quick and as deep as in the books. I’m not sure what to think?! The TV series has taken a serious turn and is not at all similar to the books.
Does anyone agree with me and feel this way? Has anyone else had different feelings about the TV series then the books? Does anyone on here even watch the show I don’t hear many people talking about it. I love the show but its nothing compared to the books! Can’t wait for March!!
Ashleylovez, I do watch the show but I would call it an ALTERNATIVE Vampire Diaries story. It took me quite awhile to get past the girl who plays Elena not being blonde and blue eyes since it is such a big part of the books. I do believe like you that the books are 100 times better and cant be compared to the show. My main hook in watching is Ian who plays Damon because he does an amazing job and is definitely how I see Damon. Now onto the books I love both Stefan and Damon, but Damon is more real to me. You don’t know what you are going to get with him and his character is exciting. I mean we all love a happy ending where everyone holds hands and walks off into the sun set but that is not real life.
lol you’re right. i’m indecisive! i love damon’s edge!
Omg I didn\’t even watch the nightfall yet I\’m still on the second book but now I can\’t wait!!!I\’m confused doe it come out February 9th or march 16th???
ok. im confused. how can all of u read sneak peeks of midnight?!?!? some1 has t2 tell me how!! i totally want 2 read it!!!
Bonnie and Damon need to get together.
I dont know if anyone’s noticed but I like the way Damon acts torwards Bonnie. He’s usually either sweet or playful torwards her. Whereas with alsmost everyone else he’s sarcastic and cynical due to him not being to fond of humans or his brother.
I love the show, and i agree with some of you that says the connection between Elena (Nina) and Damon (Ian) it’s stronger than the one she has with Stefan (Paul) and you can feel it when you watch the serie.
About Elena’s secret in Shadow souls… i got some conclusions out of it, I hope you’ll agree with me:
1. Damon says “I know what you really are” –> which means he is refering to her escence (like saying you’re a vampire, a human, a spirit or wherever) and to say “you’re a virgin” doesn’t seem to fit with Damon’s discovery.
2. Elena knows what she is, and i discovered a glimpse of that in Nightfall. When the two of them are trapped in Shinnichi’s world:
Damon: the difference between me and my brother is that he is still hoping somehow to slip in through some side door into heaven. I’m not such a moaning ninny about my fate. I know where I’m going. And I don’t —he gave her a smile with all canines fully extended—give a damn about it.
Her eyes were wide—he’d startled her. And startled her into an unintentional, thoroughly honest response. Her thoughts were projected toward him, easy to read. I know—and, I’m like that, too. I want what I want. I’m not as good as Stefan. (page 233)
Maybe it has something to do with it. Just a thought
Naza, So what do you think the secret is?
Ever sice the first book I have been totally in LOVE with Damon. I HATE Bonnie though so I don’t think she deserves him. I m definatly a Damon/Elena, but Stephans ok too.
-#1 Damon Lover
Okay, I know some people have different opinions and I do too. I have read every single one of the comments that people have posted on this page. I also can’t wait until the sixth book comes out which is Shadow Souls in which all of you know.
I do believe the book comes out on March 16 2010 so when she said it would be finished on Febuary 9 but thats probably when she will be finished writing it and then the editor will clean it up. Anyways I wanted to comment on the couples and who ends up with who strategies that everyone has some great deal in talking about.
Well I am for sure Team Damon. To some people who are Team Stefan I know what you want to prove and I was on Team Stefan but then I started read the books over again and look over them in deep emotion. I know that Elena cannot live without Stefan, but when you look at Damon from his nature and what he has been through in his lifetime. Damon is exciting you never know whats going to happen and whenever he’s with Elena everything just seems more real. I know Stefan and Elena are “soul mates” but I believe everything could change and about the Dumb Supper Ritual that Bonnie convinced Elena to do obviously gave readers a sign when Damon showed up and Elena’s hand was still on the chair- (and Bonnie said to keep her hand on the chair for the ritual to truly work) -that Bonnie said your future husband would appear, and what do you know? DAMON shows up!
I love Damon to Death and if I were Elena I would pick him, and I wouldn’t even think twice about it. Stefan is a very nice guy and I just feel like him and Elena are kinda to easy to be with and now with Damon and Elena being together in this scene, and if Elena picks Stefan then she WILL feel bad for not choosing Damon and then ( i think) that she will go back to Damon…
So I am Team Damon and all of the people who have commented on this…VAMPIRE DIARIES FANS are the BEST, Better than Twilight. And the Books are even more better than Twilight to me because this series shows love in many ways and what people and vampires especially go through and the Drama but like it’s apart of life that we need to except and sometimes you gotta dig deeper if you want Real, True, Passionate, Unforgettable, and Devotion in life and love.
Thanks to all the people who have read this, it is mouthful but thanks for your time and sorry to all those Team Stefan fans but I have to go with… Team Damon!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahaa <3
Love Marie
About the secret: i think Elena is kinda like a “dark soul” (as Damon) who is possesive and gets what she want , not like Stefan, who is caring about others and is more interested in saving others life than his own. I think Damon realizes that and knows that she belongs with him, but i couldn’t really say what she really is.
Go team Damon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Ok, I know I have not a true reader the vampire diaries and am not a big fan of Twilight but what the thing between Damon and Bonnie has got me interested in both the book and the TV series. I was watching either episode 4 or 5, and there is this mild interaction between Bonnie and Damon, and I remember thinking she’s not afraid of Damon. Also Damon was getting insaner and insaner and then Bonnie lights all those candles and I remember thinking that she could fight him. I liked that she was strong and asertive and powerful and she semed an ideal match for Damon. And unlike Elena, Bonnie loathes Damon which makes thier relationship HAW-TE. To me anyways.
This made me reseach the book and I found out that Book Bonnie is very sweet so I started reading Dark Reunion. Now I know that some of you guys think that there can be nothing sexy between Bonnie and Damon, but you guys are so wrong. Depending on the writing the meek scardey cat and the sadistic lost puppy characters can be very sexy. Its like Stockholm syndrome one moment he is frightning and cocky and cruel, the next hes protective and colabritary, and it’s her gentleness and sweetness that can understand the totured him. If anybody has ever watched Mary Reilly, you know exactly know what I’m talking about. Just think of Julia Roberts with her red hair as Bonnie and John Malcovich as Damon. Also Bonnie is like the first person that Damon is intersted in, which has nothing to do with Stephan. Thier relationship stands on its own.
But the thing between Damon and Elena, only seems hot, because it’s forbiden and thier totured and torn by thier feelings for Stephan. I was never a fan of these types of spectator sport relationships, like Bela and Edwards which needs a audiance or third party aka Jacob to showcase that what’s between them is greater than any one person or the pain they cause that person.
Think about it, once Stephan is out of the picture all that heat between Damon and Elena will fizzle. Damon’s relationship with Elena seems to need Stephan, and that quality makes it no different that Kathrines relationship with the two. But the thing between Elena and Stephan does’nt need anybody else. They just need eachother. They exist in thier own little world. I love those kinds of relationships.
Also without heat, what will Damon and Elena have? A deep fulfing relationship. Like the one that she had with Stephan, who by the way had been trying to be good and do the right thing way before an Angel came into him life. Nope, thats not gonna happen cause this Angel’s loving relationship with Damon will be based on her cheating with him on her first love, just for a little heat. And being with her makes him the bad guy with no bite. BORRRRRRRRRRRRRING! These to don’t have the sweet factor, thier just all lust, plus I’m not looking forward to Damon becoming wipped.
Rather I like Elena and Stephan because the way I see it, thier feelling are not altered or dependent on Kathrine or Damon. The same is true about Bonnie and Damon.
And all this is just an opinion, please don’t kill me.
I love that thought Naza!
This just made me extremely happy. Come on Elena and Damon! I remember reading the books when I was very young about ten years ago. They became my favorite series ever and Damon one of my favorite characters ever. I am a huge Elena/Damon fan. I think L.J. has written it so beautifully that I would be devastated if Damon didn’t have a happy ending with her.
To be honest, I’ve never been a big fan of Bonnie. Nothing personal against her or anything, I just was never very interested in her. My opinion of Stefan is worse. For some reason he annoys me a bit. Will he ever stop brooding? I never really liked the romance between them. It seemed a bit dry, unlike Damon and Elena who practically lit up the page. I believe that all amazing couple have that fire- that passion. For instance Rhett Butler and Scarlett O’Hara, Chuck and Blair from Gossip Girl, Buffy and Spike, Xena and Ares, Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth, ect.
However, I know that more than likely it will be Stefan who gets her. But still I will root for the underdog!
sar,
you read my mind!!! i totally agree. those are exactly the words I’ve been looking for regarding the Stefan/Elena/Damon love triangle. On the show I love Damon, he seems more into Elena and exciting then Stefan…but still you question his motives. And never in a relationship do you want to questions someones motives, thats why Stefan and Elena should be together. It’s not like if Elena and Damon get together they are going to have Stefan around he will be upset and live, if he sticks around its torture, so their romance will fizzle out. They do need someone else there to make it steamy. As far as the Bonnie/Damon thing I’m just not convinced but I do think it would be a good idea and a quick fix to making Damon happy. Love your ideas!
I have read this teaser.. a few times. Never left a comment, now I will be. I have been reading comments, and I have to say DON’T RULE OUT COUPLES, SINCE NONE OF YOU CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE, If you could you would be sharing it around what the end is. Everyone has opinions, and none of those opinions should be ‘forgotten’ or considered crazy. There are very well-thought out reasons behind all couples, but for some reason I personally find myself liking Damon and Elena…they are what kept me reading this series, even when Stefan and Elena starting annoying me a twinge, I mean they were CUTE, and they seemed to click. But boring and a bit unrealistic considering how fast they moved, but of course there is a lot of hope for them, so of course I am not saying this stuff about them to be like “Forget Stefan and Elena they suck! Damon and Elena RULE!!!!” I am just saying…I like the couple of Damon and Elena. I’m sure others already pointed out everything I did somewhere around this…but I just put this together sorta quickly and out of boredom!
Ok, this is a long shot… not… Elena’s secret can’t be that she is a virgin. Stephan is a gentleman and would not care wether she was or not. Damon would already know that she was a virgin because he has already tasted her blood. hint hint way back when Stephan told Damon that there was no way Elena could be alive when he saw her die and she did not take enough blood from him. Stephan knows Elena has traded blood with Damon and Damon knows that Stephan and Damon have traded blood. I think what Damon is tasting in Elena’s tears is that she is an immortal, a like super being. is something that can be only idenified by her tears and not her blood. If it could had been idenified by her blood Stephan would already know. I don’t think that her secrete is she loves Damon either, Cuz Stephan already knows that she cares for him. If not she wouldn’t have told them to take care of each other when she killed Kathrine. That is just what i think though.
I can’t wait for Shadow Souls and Midnight to come out, oh and i also know that Neither Damon nor Stephan die in this Shadow Souls. If they did how is Elena going to choose one??? Unless choosing one means moving on… but that is a whole other subject
Omg I can’t wait for this! I really hope Damon ends up with Elena. With all the buildup throughout the books, it’s so there!!!!! This scene is awesome. No clue what the secret is but I can’t wait to find out.
Damon/Elena FTW!!!
(That goes for the tv series too!!!
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ok,i also read this teaser a few times and i m only commenting now because i have to say this…damon and elena,yes,they are not boring together.like them in the books and in the tv series.must admit i m going crazy waiting 4 this book 2 come out!!!damon and elena!!!!!oh,by the way,i enjoy reading all the comments as well!
wow Elena and Damon sounds disgusting to me…
I didnt read the books proper but the way i see it specially in the beginning all damon is do right is fixing his mistakes.. like i put some building on fire and save all the ppl in it, am i a hero?
LOVE ELENA AND STEPHAN together, there is nothing like 1st love dont forget that as well, Damon is just the whole bad boy act and its a heartbreaker moment for readers when elena CHEATS on Stephan…
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there is nothing like first lovee’?? then is going to be matt/elena FTW!?
Damon deserves and needs Elena more. They’re far much deeper and stronger as a relationship in the books, S/E were too RUSHED! There’s no build-up whatsoever, that’s not interesting, its classing and cliche.
And Elena doesnt cheat, and my heart definetely does not break either. Im glad we’re finally seeing the other side of the triangle.
In my opinion Damon and Elena should be together in the end; like the reasons people have already stated, their love wasn’t rushed and didn’t seem predictable and cheesy like Stefan and Elena.
I will admit at first I did like Stefan and Elena, but as the books progressed their love got really boring because they were doing the same thing all the time. If Damon hadn’t been there the story would have just been rubbish.
I know why people want Damon and Bonnie together because I have read the books, and at first in Nightfall I was starting to think that maybe Damon was starting to have deep feelings for her; but then when I read the snowglobe scene with Damon and Elena I knew that he really did love her. I also felt that because Elena saw into his past something that Bonnie hasn’t, makes Elena know Damon a whole lot better. Also, she has been the only person who has defended Damon and Bonnie hasn’t even done that.
I think that if Damon and Elena don’t get together at the end of Midnight then it is a waste of the series returning; what is the point of bringing back the books if Elena ends up with Stefan just like in all the books before that?! Also, it would be way too predictable, cheesy and boring because even everyone that wants Elena with Damon together think this is going to happen.
But anyway, Damon and Elena!!
Ok, so I have read this about 9 times and I think that the whole “a kiss is just a kiss” thing is bs.
I mean seriously?! This is DAMON AND ELENA KISSING!
How could that be “just a kiss”?!
Well maybe Im just stressing this out but I honestly think that this kiss between the two IS the beginning of a whole new DAMON.
I mean, like others have stated, Elena Is the ONLY one that has been so close to Damon in all of his ‘ life ‘
She’s reached into some of the deepest most darkest parts of him and came out without a scratch.
And as for the secret, she loves him.
She even said it after she killed Katherine and was practically laying in stefans arms, dying.
Well I’m SUPER excited for the new book and it comes out right around my birthday
Although there may not have been “build up” in Stefan and Elenas relationship, theres dept…so much more than will EVER be there with Damon. I comment here so much that you guys probably know I like Stefan better but still love Damon. I decided to read all the books again for like the 4th time and as I’m reading Nightfall now I love how Damon is acting sweet but it ALWAYS seems like hes making up for something, never just being sincere. Some language Damon uses with Bonnie sounds similiar to how Stefan acts with Elena (ex. his little bird) which of course is weird and not so sure if I like it but Bonnie/Damon would be kinda cute. Even if Damon does turn mortal I think Elena should be a vampire again. I like her as one!
Hey guys what if we’re just building up this BIIIIGGG secret and it’s not as serious as were making it! LOL! Since we only have this little snippet were analyzing it like crazy but its only prob 2 pages in a book with over 600 pgs. I HOPE NOT! But just saying that would suck!
I can’t wait to see this episode “Children of the Damned” on Thursay! I wish the show was 2 hrs instead of 1. But is anybody else kinda frustrated that it doesn’t stick to the story? I mean WTF wheres Meredith?
oh but also one thing I just thought of after reading some comments.
what if Damon likes Bonnie because she doesn’t know all of his past? I mean he is ashamed of it anyway. Maybe it could be a good thing. *DON’T KILL ME!*
@ashleylovez,i do agree with u,but i just do not get that good feeling about damon and bonnie.with damon and elena u just feel it(chemistry).also.i think when damon is with elena,he is genuinely with her and not thinking about anyone else.JMO!!!!
I love the teaser. I can’t wait for the book. I won’t be able to sleep well with all the anxiety!
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!!!! I think bonnie should stay with Matt, Elena…I don’t know about her. See, the way I see it, Damon has been through hell and he needs someone to tear down the stone wall he has covering him up. Elena is the only one that can do that and Elena needs Damon to help understand that part of her she just discovered she had, that part that needs to be opened, the fire within. Stefan has been heartbroken for years but Elena is his savior, his universe. They want, no the need one another. They deserve happiness with one another and they might even settle down. I think she’d be happy either way but in different ways. I just hope she choose’s right because if not she’ll end up like Katherine or her fate will be terrible…death even….again!
Bonnie is like a project for Damian in some sense. While the ground work is layed…the kissing part is true, it could be taken both ways as to whether it was to get close to her friends or for real. Damian does this with the breadstick in book one when he bites either side of one elena has in her mouth.I think it is self realization when he is with Bonnie that he can do good and make a differernce.
She is child-like and liek a baby bird fallen from a tree. Whats to look for is if he kisses her around elena now, or the effects of elenas ‘powers’ and how they changed him around humans like bonnie. He saved a human life when he usually takes it. he felt good doing it. He also feels bad when elena sees him be a jerk.
The chair thing (book one) was awesome: Maybe Smith planned this all along? Also Damon always noticed a power in Elena early on. Will she marry him-my guess is they will be a treesome just not in a sexual way.
Even Elena states she has to push Stefan for things, but damon just does them. They butt heads, she challanges him whether directly or not. Both brothers rush to her sadness, even as a turned vamp. This was because they can sense her, but also bc she is such a strong person. Still she was die hard about getting Stefan, and I believe she loves him deeply. Hes helped her grow, yet so many bad things happen to him she always saving him (well, kathrine, hell).
Now whether her inital thought in her turning was what was in her head (or soulmates?) damon remains elusive and doesnt speak when she says you love me dont you. He never touches her or kisses her, but you see it near. Stefan is loyal and defends her at all costs though. Maybe he is afraid to lose to Stefan. Its more what you dont do and say than what you do.
imo the secret is that she loves him and that he knows it and now she knows he knows it. he’d know if she were a virgin anyway from before, but time has passed.
The fact she and Stefan haven’t done it makes him happy? ok but: Why if vamps don’t usually have sex to begin with would it relieve him so much? He says that things are ‘right’ so he’s made impact in her heart. Note his reaction.
She is trying to ‘fool’ him as well it said. I really think they will share blood or something, but that kiss will not just be a kiss unless its used to rouse us into thinking something more is going on. The fact that they kissed makes them both aware of the feeling(s) and situation. but for her a kiss was the way she healed…and he was refering to that perhaps with this first new book, and maybe previous boyfriends.
Stefan wanted to wait to have sex, also with kathrine, until they were married but he was bitten. I think he is still a virgin then. Perhaps she doesnt want to be princess of darkness’ to damon or go that route in her life-as a bad person. She is not a dark kind of girl.I really don’t see her having her first time with him, simply because she waited this long, her mans missing, and she’s grown too much. Not here anyway.
His eyes being her universe, her letting go deep inside-was this influence or was it relaization she didn’t have to hide what she felt, she could explore it maybe? Perhaps she wants to be a vamp again :O
Is she a virgin? prob. She and matt had a story didnt they (a short). This was a clue into the real Elena and her early interaction with Matt. I think Damian in this excerpt sees that, her power, her virgenity.
Its about what Elena is. A kiss is a kiss can mean you know me, this doesnt make u slutty. She is making vamps feel again, and that is something special. Her powers and tears id think Stefan would have noticed. Sililarly if Damon took her blood then and tasted tears now it doesnt make sense. You could however say that her blood was before she died and past over and tears are in this new state. So he’d know at this moment she was a virgin still.
He knows what people said, but he knows what he knew all along in his mind. He knows her and sees through things she is fooling others with in that sense.
You could argue his desire is part of the problem with her aura. Is it something real or something embelished by what she has become. But we know Elena will fall for Damon equally. I think this is part of that mystery. For him to be bewildered…idk seems like more to it.
As far as her running for the bridge and a rustling over head…Kathrine had owl shape and could have been watching her.
Bonnie will die young…Turned or true death who knows still. She is constantly refered to as stuck between stages of girl and woman. Alot of this is in book one. Even damon says she is not ripe…either to have to for him to want to take blood.
Both Elena and Bonnie have seen the stars in his eyes, Elena has gotten further there with this teaser. Bonnie has gifts tho-and she gets past it which can impliment pairing later, but also that it was by power. Elena does it naturally, and he allows it freely. He is very open to bonnie, but who knows yet?
Bonnie is like a project for Damian in some sense. While the ground work is layed…the kissing part is true, it could be taken both ways as to whether it was to get close to her friends or for real. Damian does this with the breadstick in book one when he bites either side of one elena has in her mouth.I think it is self realization when he is with Bonnie that he can do good and make a differernce.
She is child-like and liek a baby bird fallen from a tree. Whats to look for is if he kisses her around elena now, or the effects of elenas \’powers\’ and how they changed him around humans like bonnie. He saved a human life when he usually takes it. he felt good doing it. He also feels bad when elena sees him be a jerk.
The chair thing (book one) was awesome: Maybe Smith planned this all along? Also Damon always noticed a power in Elena early on. Will she marry him-my guess is they will be a treesome just not in a sexual way.
Even Elena states she has to push Stefan for things, but damon just does them. They butt heads, she challanges him whether directly or not. Both brothers rush to her sadness, even as a turned vamp. This was because they can sense her, but also bc she is such a strong person. Still she was die hard about getting Stefan, and I believe she loves him deeply. Hes helped her grow, yet so many bad things happen to him she always saving him (well, kathrine, hell).
Now whether her inital thought in her turning was what was in her head (or soulmates?) damon remains elusive and doesnt speak when she says you love me dont you. He never touches her or kisses her, but you see it near. Stefan is loyal and defends her at all costs though. Maybe he is afraid to lose to Stefan. Its more what you dont do and say than what you do.
imo the secret is that she loves him and that he knows it and now she knows he knows it. he\’d know if she were a virgin anyway from before, but time has passed.
The fact she and Stefan haven\’t done it makes him happy? ok but: Why if vamps don\’t usually have sex to begin with would it relieve him so much? He says that things are \’right\’ so he\’s made impact in her heart. Note his reaction.
She is trying to \’fool\’ him as well it said. I really think they will share blood or something, but that kiss will not just be a kiss unless its used to rouse us into thinking something more is going on. The fact that they kissed makes them both aware of the feeling(s) and situation. but for her a kiss was the way she healed…and he was refering to that perhaps with this first new book, and maybe previous boyfriends.
Stefan wanted to wait to have sex, also with kathrine, until they were married but he was bitten. I think he is still a virgin then. Perhaps she doesnt want to be princess of darkness\’ to damon or go that route in her life-as a bad person. She is not a dark kind of girl.I really don\’t see her having her first time with him, simply because she waited this long, her mans missing, and she\’s grown too much. Not here anyway.
His eyes being her universe, her letting go deep inside-was this influence or was it relaization she didn\’t have to hide what she felt, she could explore it maybe? Perhaps she wants to be a vamp again :O
Is she a virgin? prob. She and matt had a story didnt they (a short). This was a clue into the real Elena and her early interaction with Matt. I think Damian in this excerpt sees that, her power, her virgenity.
Its about what Elena is. A kiss is a kiss can mean you know me, this doesnt make u slutty. She is making vamps feel again, and that is something special. Her powers and tears id think Stefan would have noticed. Sililarly if Damon took her blood then and tasted tears now it doesnt make sense. You could however say that her blood was before she died and past over and tears are in this new state. So he\’d know at this moment she was a virgin still.
He knows what people said, but he knows what he knew all along in his mind. He knows her and sees through things she is fooling others with in that sense.
You could argue his desire is part of the problem with her aura. Is it something real or something embelished by what she has become. But we know Elena will fall for Damon equally. I think this is part of that mystery. For him to be bewildered…idk seems like more to it.
As far as her running for the bridge and a rustling over head…Kathrine had owl shape and could have been watching her.
Bonnie will die young…Turned or true death who knows still. She is constantly refered to as stuck between stages of girl and woman. Alot of this is in book one. Even damon says she is not ripe…either to have to for him to want to take blood.
Both Elena and Bonnie have seen the stars in his eyes, Elena has gotten further there with this teaser. Bonnie has gifts tho-and she gets past it which can impliment pairing later, but also that it was by power. Elena does it naturally, and he allows it freely. He is very open to bonnie, but who knows yet?
Bonnie is like a project for Damian in some sense. While the ground work is layed…the kissing part is true, it could be taken both ways as to whether it was to get close to her friends or for real. Damian does this with the breadstick in book one when he bites either side of one elena has in her mouth.I think it is self realization when he is with Bonnie that he can do good and make a differernce.
She is child-like and liek a baby bird fallen from a tree. Whats to look for is if he kisses her around elena now, or the effects of elenas \\\’powers\\\’ and how they changed him around humans like bonnie. He saved a human life when he usually takes it. he felt good doing it. He also feels bad when elena sees him be a jerk.
The chair thing (book one) was awesome: Maybe Smith planned this all along? Also Damon always noticed a power in Elena early on. Will she marry him-my guess is they will be a treesome just not in a sexual way.
Even Elena states she has to push Stefan for things, but damon just does them. They butt heads, she challanges him whether directly or not. Both brothers rush to her sadness, even as a turned vamp. This was because they can sense her, but also bc she is such a strong person. Still she was die hard about getting Stefan, and I believe she loves him deeply. Hes helped her grow, yet so many bad things happen to him she always saving him (well, kathrine, hell).
Now whether her inital thought in her turning was what was in her head (or soulmates?) damon remains elusive and doesnt speak when she says you love me dont you. He never touches her or kisses her, but you see it near. Stefan is loyal and defends her at all costs though. Maybe he is afraid to lose to Stefan. Its more what you dont do and say than what you do.
imo the secret is that she loves him and that he knows it and now she knows he knows it. he\\\’d know if she were a virgin anyway from before, but time has passed.
The fact she and Stefan haven\\\’t done it makes him happy? ok but: Why if vamps don\\\’t usually have sex to begin with would it relieve him so much? He says that things are \\\’right\\\’ so he\\\’s made impact in her heart. Note his reaction.
She is trying to \\\’fool\\\’ him as well it said. I really think they will share blood or something, but that kiss will not just be a kiss unless its used to rouse us into thinking something more is going on. The fact that they kissed makes them both aware of the feeling(s) and situation. but for her a kiss was the way she healed…and he was refering to that perhaps with this first new book, and maybe previous boyfriends.
Stefan wanted to wait to have sex, also with kathrine, until they were married but he was bitten. I think he is still a virgin then. Perhaps she doesnt want to be princess of darkness\\\’ to damon or go that route in her life-as a bad person. She is not a dark kind of girl.I really don\\\’t see her having her first time with him, simply because she waited this long, her mans missing, and she\\\’s grown too much. Not here anyway.
His eyes being her universe, her letting go deep inside-was this influence or was it relaization she didn\\\’t have to hide what she felt, she could explore it maybe? Perhaps she wants to be a vamp again :O
Is she a virgin? prob. She and matt had a story didnt they (a short). This was a clue into the real Elena and her early interaction with Matt. I think Damian in this excerpt sees that, her power, her virgenity.
Its about what Elena is. A kiss is a kiss can mean you know me, this doesnt make u slutty. She is making vamps feel again, and that is something special. Her powers and tears id think Stefan would have noticed. Sililarly if Damon took her blood then and tasted tears now it doesnt make sense. You could however say that her blood was before she died and past over and tears are in this new state. So he\\\’d know at this moment she was a virgin still.
He knows what people said, but he knows what he knew all along in his mind. He knows her and sees through things she is fooling others with in that sense.
You could argue his desire is part of the problem with her aura. Is it something real or something embelished by what she has become. But we know Elena will fall for Damon equally. I think this is part of that mystery. For him to be bewildered…idk seems like more to it.
As far as her running for the bridge and a rustling over head…Kathrine had owl shape and could have been watching her.
Bonnie will die young…Turned or true death who knows still. She is constantly refered to as stuck between stages of girl and woman. Alot of this is in book one. Even damon says she is not ripe…either to have to for him to want to take blood.
Both Elena and Bonnie have seen the stars in his eyes, Elena has gotten further there with this teaser. Bonnie has gifts tho-and she gets past it which can impliment pairing later, but also that it was by power. Elena does it naturally, and he allows it freely. He is very open to bonnie, but who knows yet?
@mel so what’s your stance? lol i think you are as confused as me! it’s hard to really tell what is gonna happen. Honestly, both ways could work out. I agree with what you are saying about Bonnie, I never thought of it that way; not a girl yet still not a woman. Maybe she will die in that inbetween stage…can witches be turned into vamps? That would be something to explore. I agreed with Sar though when she says that Damon and Elenas relationship has more depth when Stefan is involved. I just seriously doubt that without Stefan they would still flourish in a relationship. Even though Katherine said she loved Stefan best (I used/kinda think this means something) he feels for Elena more, they compliment each other. Of course Damon seems to be changing but I mean to me it’s too little too late. He still has that “PRINCE OF DARKNESS” thing going on that I just DON’T think Elena is interested in. I can’t freakin wait for this book!!!!!!
As far as the secret I have no idea. But I do agree that her first time will not be with Damon, even though I thought they don’t do that? It wouldn’t make sense for it to be shes a virgin cus I mean, it’s kind of obvious especially with the whole rebirth thing and “wings of purity” or whatever….her being a virgin only makes the wings stronger. It’s weird how in the show Stefan and Elena have already had sex and in the book they can’t….but hey guess its cus we’re in the 21st century and things need to be juicy! LOL! Maybe the love thing…but still not sure. Or it could be what happend with him being possessed he sees it and he remembers but didn’t say (like she wrote about in her diary.)
BTW Where is Matt during all this??? I thought he went on the trip to!!!
also It could just be her aura that is still attracting Damon? Would he care as much if her aura wasn’t so appealing? Would he stick around? Probably but maybe not love her. We all know Stefan still would even if her aura was black!
Do you think maybe Damon seems angry in the passage because he doesn’t want to help Elena find Stefan? Maybe he’s jealous. Of course he loves his brother and wants him safe. But he’s always wanted Elena to himself.
@mel and @ashleylovez.some good points there,but whichever way it goes,the 3 of them should get a happy ending.preferably damon with elena(sorry,i just had to say that…lol)
http://files.harpercollins.com/OMM/Childrens/PDF/ShadowSouls.pdf
GO THERE EVERYBODY…..FINALLY!!!
IT’S THE FIRST CHAPTER OF SHADOW SOULS! IT’S NOT THAT GREAT BUT ITS SOMETHING!
If you have the kindle you can read the book on March 1st
Damnit I have to go out and get one of those now!
Does anybody know how it works when you preorder on Amazon? Does it come the day its out???
I agree with Taznim. You just FEEL the Damon/Elena connection, depth AND chemistry through every scene they have. I love that is has taken the long route to build up to what they are now (and hopefully for how they end!
) because it will mean that much more when she finally chooses him once and for all. Damon neeeeeeeeeeeeeeds Elena. She brings out the best in him. (Okay, I’m kinda referring to the show with that too lol) Anyway, I’m really excited to read this book. Is it March yet?
does any one else think that Elana might be a SHADOWED SOUL? its the book title, for goodness sake.
OMG! I HAVE to read this as soon as it comes out! I’m pre-ordering it now in fact! I cannot wait!
@ashleylovez.thanx 4 the link.at least it was something.really cannot wait now!!!!!!!!!!
what do you guys think “shadowed soul” means?
someone pointed out it might have significance but I’m not sure what to think of it.
Yeah the link wasn’t much but it was like a small fix lol. its like were drug addicts or something!
@ashleylovez…LOL!!!!!!
if you watch the show heres a spoiler for episode 14. it\’s a script pretty interesting scenes with lucy and damon and lucy and bonnie.
http://www.spoilertv.com/2009/12/vampire-diaries-episode-114-casting.html
well i agree with Ashley, Damon is always trying to make up for what he did wrong, nobody commented on my example, I burn a building and save every1 in it am I a hero, I kill U, and revive U did I save ur life? IMO Damon usually wants what Stefan has , in this case Elena.
@Slevin.i get what u say,but i really like what damon feels 4 elena.maybe what stefan has is more interesting than the others that damon has met(LOL).anyway in the end it is stefan who will end up with elena BUTso far reading about elena and damon is much more fun,JMO…..
@caroline is right the name of the book is SHADOW SOULS!
note the plural!
well i hope that Stefan and Elena end up together just because wouldn’t it be a waste to revive the series and waste 4 books building a relationship to change it. I feel like literally Stefan and Elena CANNOT live with out each other. One of them would kill themselves. I just don’t feel thats the case with Damon. And I completely stand by the fact that Damon is always making up for something. Yes I agree it’s a nice effort and it’s usually refreshing but you don’t want someone saying or doing mean things to you and then consistently taking it back or trying to fix it. I really want to Damon to be happy though also just not with Elena.
OMFG!
i can never read another teaser again because they always end at the best part!
i really want elena and damon to have a realtionship together, but then you have stefan who’s is stuck in a god-for-saken jail cell getting tortured everyday and the only thing thats keeping him going is elena.
and she’s just going to cheat on him like that it’s crazy. and knowing damon since he kissed elena and he knows that she has feelings for him he’s going to brag about to stefan when he gets mad at him or just to hurt his brother.
it’s going to be the whole KATHERINE thing all over again. when is the horror going to end?????????
but on the other hand damon and elena have chemistry,
stefan is the hopeless romantic, smart guy who’s always going to be there.
damon is the spontaneous, charming, romantic (on the inside) bad boy.
elena has to make a really hard choice.
how can anyone choose between two brothers?
no matter who you choose someones going to get hurt.
gosh! LOVE TRIANGLES KILL ME!
DOES ANYBODY ON HERE HAVE A KINDLE?!
march 1 is the kindle release date
march 16 is the hardcopy
My birthday is Monday and I’m thinking of asking for a kindle but I haven’t really heard any reviews. Anyone have personal experience?? I’d apperciate it.
THE SECRET ISN’T THAT SHE LOVES HIM
damon said “i know what you ARE”
this teaser has me stumped!i give up trying 2 figure out what the secret is,LOL…but it is obvious that it is not going to be that she loves damon becoz she would not do that to stefan,and she cannot start loving damon just out of the blues like that(LOL)!!!!!!JMO.
but she didn’t start loving damon just out of the blue like that!
okay everybody this is really weird, somebody put on wikipedia that there will be a fourth and fifth book in the return series
the return: vampire night & the return: tragic falls
WHAT\’S GOING ON HERE!
Hi! i’m new here and i just want to say that i accidentally stumbled upon this tv series and got totally hooked! i read the books just by running through them cause i can’t print them 4 now:(
so i just know the outline of the story in books. The series, however is totally different.
I am completely a DELENA fan!!!
And as for your reference orangejuice, maybe LJ Smith couldn’t sum the whole story up in just three books so she decided to write another two.. Or perhaps it will be another trilogy or something like that!
Does anyone know if the screenwriters will put Damon and Elena in some situation that could possibly lead to a relationship? In the show i mean.
Cause I think they chose a totally wrong character to play Stefan… There is no chemistry between nina and paul, but there IS some between her and ian, so to me they are more believable as a couple.
What do u think?
why can’t i comment??
oh ok ok false alarm:) because it wouldnt submit my comment so i though something was wrong.. ignore the last post…
I agree Sara, Ian and Nina have WAY more chemistry. Although I am a huge Damon/Elena fan ;o)
Ashleylovez,
Thank you for the script..what an awesome find!
As for the Kindie, a friend of mine has one and she loves it. I am actually going to borrow it March 1st so I can read Shadow Souls early :O)
Orangejuice, Wiki is not to be taken seriously. There is also a book Return: Damon and Elena on there. Anyone can write whatever they want. So far the Author has said she has only written Shadow Souls and midnight. HOWEVER she did say she would write more, she has not yet though. SO someone is just going on there and writing stuff
Oh god, not another 2 books. I would love it if I didn’t expect it to be completely commercialized and nothing like the original series as Nightfall was. But I’m sure the publishers would love to milk LJ for extra books that aren’t need just to make money. I mean come on we’ve been waiter over 10 yr to find out who she picks! (not exactly but still)
I felt like Nightfall was just plain silly. Killer trees? Evil fox twins/lovers? Wings? Come on’ I mean I know this is science fiction but its a little too much. Did anybody else notice the inconsistency in LJ writing suddenly talking about internet, mobile phones, and video camreas. This is supposed to be the early 90’s!
@Missy, lucky you! Hopefully I get it for my birthday monday. I’m kind of debating it but the prices are cheaper and I heard it’s not like reading on a laptop, it’s actually like a book.
I disagree I think Nina and Paul have great chemistry on screen as well as her and Ian. In my mind Paul and Ian are perfect for the Salvatore brothers…not so sure about Nina but, I’ve loved her since Degrassi so I don’t mind. Still upset that its very far from the book but I guess it wouldn’t be interesting to watch if we knew everything that was going to happen.
Can’t wait for the book and hope LJ redeems herself!
do not rely on wiki too much…u all r lucky to read it on 1st of Mar.,glad to know i am not the only 1 who enjoys the tv series too!!!GO DAMON and ELENA!really,really anxious about the book now……..
yes, i couldn’t find anything about the so called “tragic falls” book..
and btw WHAT is a kindie? i keep hearing about it a lot..
i just hope someone downloads the book when they release it.. cause bookstores are going to put some high price i just know it..
and tnx missy! finally someone agrees with me on Nina/Ian chemistry
)
omfg i cant wait for the new books come out , i have been having a panic attack ever since i finished the last one . its so hard for elena to choose cuz both brothers are sweet to her and love her with all their heart . too bad she couldnt choose both
omfg i cant wait for the new books come out , i have been having a panic attack ever since i finished the last one . its so hard for elena to choose cuz both brothers are sweet to her and love her with all their heart . too bad she couldnt choose both. i also agree that elena and damon have chemistry but dont kno what to do with it . i cant choose which one for her to be with but i really want damon and bonnie together ,they seem like a good couple and understand each other , besides elena wants bonnie and damon together even tho it kills her inside to see her best friend falling in love with a vampire as dark as damon.
I am a huge Damon/Elena fan i love love love Damon and Elena needs to end up with him IMO. As for the secret.. after reading the first chapter of the book (thanks for that link btw) and comparing it to the last book it dawned on me that she is putting so much emphasis on the fact that now vampires WANT Elena it seems like the secret has to be that shes a virgin. There is just way too much foreshadowing there for it not to be.. imo again. I am just dying waiting for the new book though! thank goodness February is a short month!
I heard on this interview with L.J. Smith (http://www.voiceamerica.com/voiceamerica/vepisode.aspx?aid=42658) that she favors Damon.. Hopefully that is a good thing for us Damon/Elena fans!!
OMFG I CANT WAIT TIL MARCH 16TH AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
damon and elena!!!!!that is all i have 2 say…
ASHLEYLOVEZ,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY! I hope you have a great day and many blessings throughout the year. :O)
@ashleylovez…HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!!!!!!!watch vampire diaries and have a great day(hahahaha!)
happy b day ashleylovez! i’m not going to ask which one
enjoy!
and can someone PLEASE explain what is a kindle???? tnx
Sara, Kindle is a wireless reading device
http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Amazons-Original-Wireless-generation/dp/B000FI73MA
Sara, Kindle is a wireless reading device
http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Amazons-Original-Wireless-generation/dp/B000FI73MA
Thank u missy! i was right, it’s what my friend got a week ago!
i just haven’t seen it yet!
he spilled a lot of money on that little gadget…better be working
thanks everybody! too bad I didn’t get the kindle though…but I’m thinking of going out and buying it. I live in Maryland, we got a huge snowstorm, 2 feet ontop of a foot we already have and are expecting another foot tomorrow night. That being said I told my aunt like the day the snow storm starting that I wanted it but she couldn’t get out to get it! But hey my mom got me a 32″ flat screen TV, now I can watch TVD in HD, lol! Do you think I should buy the kindle, is it worth the price? I wonder if there is a place to buy it cheaper.
I noticed that Ian and Nina have more chemistry also, even though he has a girlfriend (who I find very unattractive for whatever reason.) Her and Paul do good on the show, but outside for interviews and such they always seem to keep a distance even when they are sitting close.
Does anybody else blog on the site vampire-diaries.net ? Because once the book comes out where can we talk?
I definitely think that wiki was wrong since anybody can write whatever they want…it would be cool to have more books but only after Elena choose
okay i and definatly a DAMON FAN!
i think however the book went elena nd damon would end up together. i have skimmed over the comments listed above and i think a majority of them want damon and elena to happen anyway. LJ Smith was on a show (someone posted the website of it) and she admitted she likes damon better. so i think she was just kind of leaving hints along the way to lead to elena and damon. i mean i love stefan 2. he acts aute and stuff bot COME ON! elena and damon HAVE to be.
as for the secret : i think and almost positive that he finds out that she love him. if u think about it thouroughly, its the only logical answer. if it was cause she was a virgin, then y woould he take advantage of her? that doesnt sound like damon to me.
and i think the best proof is that he never breaks his word and he said multiple times to elena that he WILL have her in the end AND the dumb supper thing (whoever posted it) saying that it wasnt official unless she kept her hand on the chair.
after all that has happened…i think elena and damon understand eachother on better levels then she and stefan.
and if the spoiler is true about midnight, then he will be human, and he and elena could be together, or a threesome…as long as damon wins then im happy.
SPOILER********
the 1st chapter in Shadow Souls
http://authspot.com/novels/shadow-souls-teaser/
copy and paste—idk if it will work!!!!
DAMON & ELANA 4 EVER******
WAit i posted the wrong link…
i tried to copy the 1st chapter but it wouldnt work
SPOILER****** the 1st chapter starts with her writing in her diary (not writing, recording her thoughts cause her diary is in the trunk of the car and she doesnt wanna gett it) and shes explaining her life since the end of the previous book. it ends with some1 jumping or slamming or falling on the roof of the carr********
i think its the malach where the story above states they had to strip to get away from the malach
hope i helped!!!
DAMON AND ELENA 4 LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am a huge damon and elena fan. She wanted stefan from the moment she saw him and damon wanted her from the moment he saw her. They were both determined to get what they wanted no matter how long it took and she got what she wanted. Damon has more patience than her considering the hundreds of years hes been alive or dead i should say. So he can wait and will get what he wants even though in the begining it was just because katherine drew them both there. And may i just say what a complete crazy bitch she is! Damon and elena are just to much a like and i know sumtimes that doesnt work out but i have faith. Both stefan and damons relationships with her have had a purpose. Stefan was there to change her after what happened with her parents and help her become a better person. Hes servied his purpose and elena doesnt even seem that mad at damon for gettin him taken away even if he was possessed at the time that decision to do that came from a real place inside him and she doesnt even seem to care? Elena is just to different from stefan hes helped her and now its her turn to help damon.
hey LaurN! can u explain more thoroughly how he could he taste her love from her tears?? it has no sense to me as much as tasting her virginity??
i mean don’t get me wrong i would LOVE it if it would be true but still..
i think it’s something bigger than that because she thinks “if he knew she knew then why…?”
i presume it would be : Then why would he kiss me??
maybe she’s embarrassed of that secret and can’t explain why he would do that even though he knows..
and i agree with u JessSalvatore that damon needs help somehow..and he needs elena to do it.. even though some say bonnie should be with him but i disagree…
elena and he have a far deeper connection..
hey LaurN! can u explain more thoroughly how he could taste her love form her tears?? cause it seems unreal to me as much as he could taste her virginity..
dont get me wrong id LOVE it if it were true but still..
@JessSalvatore,exactly!!!!!!!!!!!
ok this triond is seriously messing with me!!!
first it doesn’t show my comments and now i can see them AFTER i commented AGAIN!!
uff…
OMG. Now i really wanna read the book. I keep reading the other books so it\’s something to hold me off til\’ this one comes out in March. Jeez….I wonder what the secret it. I think it\’s nothing too bad, but not too good either. I love the t.v. show, but it\’s ssoo different than the book. I do personally prefer the book tho, but Stefan and Damon(Ian and Paul) are sexyy in the show!!!
CANT WAIT!!!
Ashleylovez,
I am in MD too! We had 3 feet here and are suppose to get another foot tonight :O(
As for the Kindle, I am not going to buy one just because I love books. Theres nothing equal to having your favorite book in print. Now dont get me wrong I am borrowing my friends so I can read Shadow Souls early, but I will still buy the hardcover book when it comes out. The kindle is good for those who just want to download it off the internet, or in this case get a book early. I would rather go to the book store :O)
As for other blogs, that is a good one you mentioned and I like this one too http://www.vampirediaries.com/
OMFG I was seriously crying myself becuase i was just freaking out about how much I want to read it!!
I have read all the books so far…I like the idea of Damon and Bonnie together. I will be really upset if Elena cheats on Stefan. There relationship is what kept me reading the books. I was upset to see that the last book ended as it did, because I would have to wait until the next book came out to see what happens. I was wondering where Matt was in this sneakpeak…where did he go? I think Elena and Stefan belong together. Kissing Damon is okay, but if more than that happens then I will be disappointed in Elena’s character. In this little sneakpeak, “Elena examined the room with the too-bright vision of the seriously sleep-impaired. She must not have really slept at all last night on her out of body adventure to see Stefan, she thought. ” so I hope she stays true to Stefan because she would crush Stefan because he cant live without her and they belong together, they are soulmates, and she has said that her self in the other books, Damon has not been with her the way Stefan has (spent time together, he just wanted her because he doesnt want Stefan to be happy.
okay i know this is a fantasy and obviously LJS has begun to include some really silly things in her writing but…
how could Damon knows Elena’s a virgin or that he loves her by tasting her tears? I mean lets get real that makes no sense, it’s not at all logical (not that LJ ever is lol.) And also it says I know WHAT YOU ARE so it can’t be love.
For whatever reason I don’t like Damon and Elena in a relationship, I like how they act together but I just don’t think it will last. Don’t get me wrong my heart skips a beat during times like the teaser above! I don’t understand why LJS would write 4 books about Stefan and Elena and then just change. I know Damon needs Elena…but I don’t think its in a relationship way. He needs her in more of a mentor kind of way…teach him how to feel, etc. He can still get this if he were Stefan, I doubt that either would ever leave Damon’s side no matter what.
On the other hand I can’t see Stefan living without Elena, granted he is a very UNDERSTANDING guy. I bet Elena could say she had sex with 10 people and he would understand and ask what he did wrong – kinda like Bella from Twilight in the sense that it’s always her fault. Elena and Stefan fit better in a relationship in my opinion. I don’t think Stefan could move on whereas I feel like Damon could.
One thing someone said really got me thinking though; Elena forgives Damon like its NOTHING. I know he was possessed and he didn’t want his brother killed or hurt badly….but these feelings were real he really wanted Stefan gone! Its either cus Elena wants Damon to be good and doesn’t want to realize this or she doesn’t care. I doubt its that she doesn’t care. I think Elena always expects the best and doesn’t want to make Damon feel bad about what happend-the boys have already been thru so much. We have to remember that she is on this trip because of Stefan and in this mess because of Damon. If she does anythign serious with Damon I would also be disapointed in her character. She loves Stefan best, shes doing everything for him. Without Stefan I just don’t think Damon and Elenas connection is there. Thats probably what intrigues Damon about Elena, atleast thats what did at first.
Do you guys think that shi no shi is a figment of the imagination or rather a physical place?
@Missy I live in Burtonsville and it’s snowing again…I’m sick of this! School is cancelled for the rest of the week. I can’t even make it to work. I wish I had a kindle to borrow! I as well like to have the physical book, theres something cozy about it.
I’ve also been rereading (or should I say intensly skimming) thru the books this month to try to remember everything.
I noticed in that interview someone linked. That L.J. also said Elena ends up wanting Stefan and Damon and can’t understand why monogomy applies to women and not men. Is this here telling us how it’s going to play out? Because that is NOT how the original series ended. So if that is the case Elena is going to want them both just as Katherine did, which is actually something I predicted early on). But, who will she choose and for what reasons? Damon being human will definitely change things he will be more compatable with Elena if she is totally human or lives a human life span. Or it could turn him more on to Bonnie, HOPE NOT, but I’m still hoping Elena chooses Damon however it pans out. I am with whoever else posted it: considering how much Stefan loved Katherine it would be nice if she could come back (nicer) and it gives him someone too.
I know all the Stefan fans want him to be the one which I can totally relate to since I am a Damon fan and want him to win out.
As for the show I have to agree with the ones of you who like the chemistry between Nina and Ian I think they have it too.
I don’t think Paul is good looking enough to play Stefan but Ian is dreamy…..sigh
yes, Ian completely conveyed Damon’s characteristics!
he is not a one sided character and we can actually see that from the mimics of his face, the tone of his voice etc.
i think Ian has a more difficult task than Paul..
Paul just has to be good, moody and overly unnoticeable..
i have to agree,ian is the perfect damon!
exactly taznim!!
and it’s such a good thing that they haven’t made him wear black lenses cause Damon has black eyes in the books if i read correctly..
Those penetrating eyes are the essence of that character! in the show i mean..
perfect!!
Can’t wait for the 14th episode!!!!!
luckily it airs in Europe too so they upload it already around 1 am..
i’m a huge fan of damon and elena. stefan is just so unrealistic and fake. he’s TOO perfect. i also think stefan/elena’s relationship was way too rushed. in a matter of days they were practically married. damon/elena’s relationship has depth, and the feelings are real. elena may be the one for stefan, but their relationship is just “want”. damon actually NEEDS elena. they love each other the way stefan and elena dont.
I am a total Damon-Elena fan! There is definetly a big connection there, between them! I agree vampire, Stefan and Elena want each other, but Damon and Elena need each other!
Okay, THIS IS THE REAL REALESE DATE OF SHADOW SOULS; MARCH 16, 2010!!! I`m serious!
This teaser is soo hot! I love it! I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE… DMON Cn`t be talking about Elena being a virgin, i mean, it`s unrealistic! And no, it`s not love, that doesn`t fit.
The show is amazing! Wow! I love it! It`s one of my faves. I agree, Ian is an amazing choise for Damon. He`s got that confident attitude going on. And I am soo happy, they didn`t make Ian wear dark contacts. His blue eyes are a nice touch! Next best choice; Bonnie. Next, Caroline. (Wow, she looks exactly what I pictured her!) Next, Elena. Then Matt. And last, Stefan. I am a little bit dissapointed in their choice for Stefan. AND, SADLY, NO MERIDITH!
Here is how I THINK the show will end up as;
Elena – Stefan
Caroline – Matt
Bonnie –
Damon -
*SRRY FOR ANY SPELLING MISTAKES, I WAS RUSHING!!!*
The book characters and the show characters are different.
Book Elena, light skin Blonde and Blue eyes. Show Elena, darker skin Brown hair bron eyes
Book Caroline, Dark skin(shes describes a bronze beauty) Dark eyes and hair. In the show she is light skin, Blonde hair.
Book Bonnie, Red hair(shes described as a fiery red head) Show Bonnie, No red hair.
Also if you re read the first book in the series, Elena is kinda a witch. She uses people and takes advantage of people and thinks shes top stuff. In the show though, shes sickeningly sweet and a good girl. You dont see that venimis that you see in the books. Also as Elena states in the last book, shes not as good as Stefan and she agrees with Damon that she wants what she wants and doesnt give a D@$% where she is going.
I could never see the show Elena act like that.
!!!! SHADOW SOULS FIRST CHAPTER !!!!!
http://files.harpercollins.com/OMM/Childrens/PDF/ShadowSouls.pdf
!!! SHADOW SOULS FIRST CHAPTER !!!!
http://files.harpercollins.com/OMM/Childrens/PDF/ShadowSouls.pdf
What I think is interesting is in the first books Damon refers to Elena as his Queen Of Shadows and then in the later Princess of Darkness. So does that have something to do with the “Shadow Souls” Is that what Damon and Elena are? :O)
@vampire, but isn’t the reason someone would be in a relationship is because they WANT to, not because they need to. Just because one person may need the other doesn’t mean they need to be in a relationship. And even so, if thats the case it causes a lot of resentment. People including vampires (probably lol) go into a relationship because the WANT to, otherwise it will seem kinda forced. Of course, after being with someone for a while you it may seem like you NEED them to survive but you have to remember you wanted them first and you really don’t NEED them its just attachment.
I would want to be in a relationship because thats my desire, not because you have to change the person. In a relationship you should except the person for who they are and not have to focus on making them something they are not…perfect example for Damon. Elena is a not a bad person, of course there is attraction there with her and Damon, who wouldn’t be attracted to him? But thats all it is, they have some feelings for each other but they just are to different. Sometimes opposites attract but they are on two opposite sides of the spectrum. Damon needs a lot of changing before he can be involved in a relationship, and if you have to change someone you shouldn’t be with them. That’s just my opinion.
Needing someone isn’t cause for a relationship, and it certainly doesn’t make a happy or successful one. The basis of attraction is want not need.
I love all the characters, Damon included, but I just don’t think him and Elena are right together. He is dark and she is light. And I most definitely don’t think NEED can justify a relationship between them. Of course Stefan needs Elena and vice versa but that came after the mutual want that caused their relationship, no one needed to change who they were for them to work out….it was just right.
you have 2 admit,though,that elena feels 4 damon,call it need,call it want,call it anything,but she has something…and sometimes that something can go very very far!!!so 4 me it is still DAMON AND ELENA(hahahaha)…..
Have u seen the tonight show???
I think that even Stefan/Elena fans are having second thoughts now:)
Those scenes were PERFECT!!!!!
@sara.episode 14 of vd was tops!!!!!!lol.damon and elena scenes were EPIC………..
I think Elena and Damon are more alike. I agree with the above poster which some seem to forget, Elena was not a nice person. She used people to get what she wanted and treated people like they were help. The world revolved around her as it did with Damon. I say did because we are now seeing Damons softer side. We are seeing his fierce love for his girl and his brother. We also see someone who is lonely as Elena was. Now for the want need. Want and lust only go so far, want isnt going to last just like lust is not going to last. Need does last. You need to be with them, you need to be near them. The need that you are better with them then apart. Hands down we have all read it,Elena brings out past feelings..who Damon used to be but the hard casing surrounded. No you shouldnt change people, but shes not doing that. Shes bringing out who he was and that is something he needed.
Now as much as some dont want it(I do though) Smith said Elena will be in love with Damon the same as she is with Stefan. You can read the interview below.
tnx for the link missy! i sort of thought this series was going in that direction.. but some small, tiny inner voice is telling me that she’s gonna be with Stefan after all.. as much as i don’t want to… oh, i don’t know anymore…
@taznim, i’ve rewatched it a hundred times over! i just can’t get enough!
the way she was looking at him when he put her necklace back on… there is SO MUCH CHEMISTRY going on!
i can’t understand why the screenwriters don’t realise that and end our misery by putting them together…eventhough it’s contrary to the books..
but hey they’ve already done almost EVERYTHING NOT according to the books, so why not this?????
I agree with you Missy,they are more alike and need does last. And Damon needs her. Elena is his true love, the one that can make him realize there is more to the world than to Feed, Kill and have Power. Damon is now opening up and breaking free from those walls and that wouldn’t of happened if Elena never felt anything for him. Obviously I hope to god they end up with each other because of their need, and yah, want is important but the need to be with someone is truly irresistible to deny. Damon and Elena were made for each other and I think that all the feelings they have for each other are only going to bring them even more closer than ever.
And who’s excited for Shadow Souls?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I know I am!!!!! haha, I guess now it’s only 1 more month we have to wait to buy it.
And who saw last night’s episode of Vampire Diaries? I thought it was unbelievable!
and have u seen that the show is going on a hiatus till March 23?? or 26.. either way it’s BAD!!
i’m gonna go crazy..
I’m going to go Crazy tooo!!!! And its until March 25th and it sucks!!! 5 weeks we have to wait.
But last nights episode was awesome, its my favourite episode of the 1st season!!!
It’s March 25 actually..
YES Marie!! mine too! and episode 3 and 11! they were awesome!
sorry, i commented before i saw your post about the actual date!
I’ll probably make a countdown or something till the air date
Hahaha 3 and 11 were AWESOME!!! Just like you said! And it’s okay if you commented before posting and a countdown is totally what we need!
I can’t believe it…5 WEEKS!
wow…and i though I was obsessed….
@kylie…LOL!not an obsession,4 me it is something fun and interesting after a long time………although,i maybe a bit obsessed with DAMON AND ELENA getting 2gether,that is(lololololololololol)….
Sara, also remember that the producers of the show did Dawsons Creek. Who did Joey end up with?? Pacey! Who is like Pacey in this series, Damon :O) Damon and Elena have so much chemistry it really explodes from the screen. Stefan and Elena are just luke warm for me.
I cant wait for Shadow Souls! It will be the best book for all of us Damon fans…oh and hes on the cover so that doesnt hurt either ;o) Remember it releases March 1st on Kindle and March 16th for paper back
Heres the excerpt from the back
\” On the run . . .
Elena Gilbert\’s love, the vampire Stefan Salvatore, has been captured and imprisoned by demonic spirits who are wreaking havoc in Fell\’s Church. While her friends Bonnie and Meredith explore the evil that has taken over their town, Elena goes in search of Stefan.
In order to find him, she entrusts her life to Stefan\’s brother, Damon Salvatore, the handsome but deadly vampire who wants Elena, body and soul. Along with her childhood friend Matt, they set out for the slums of the Dark Dimension, where Stefan is being held captive. It is rumored to be a world where vampires and demons roam free, but humans must live enslaved to their supernatural masters. . . .
Elena will stop at nothing to free Stefan. Yet with each passing day the tension between Elena and Damon grows, and she is faced with a terrible decision: Which brother does she really want?
Back in Fell\’s Church, Bonnie and Meredith have made some dire discoveries. They hastily try to follow Elena and warn her—only to be caught up in Elena\’s most dangerous adventure yet. \”
Now I know many of you know what happens to Damon in this book and all I can say is I cant wait to see the fall out from this :O)
@missy,thanx!!!!!!!and whoever reads the book via kindle,please let us know if it was good,bad,ok,out of this world….but not giving details away.i cant wait either!!
the producers are the same as for Dawson’s creek?? i didn’t notice.. maybe cause i didn’t like Dawson’s creek that much..
it was a long time ago so i don’t even remember..
but yes i know joey ended up with pacey, but this show is based on the book so i don’t think they will go that far against the book..
or was Dawson also based on the book?? i don’t think so but??
I was kidding about the countdown…
I won’t be THAT obsessed..Kylie ![]()
Besides my boyfriend is on the edge with his nerves cause I’m constantly talking Damon this Damon that..a bit of competition maybe?? hm hm
so damon NEEDS elena but she doesn’t need him. It’s not a mutual thing; she already is sure of herself and what she wants…well that is until shadow souls! I can’t wait!!!
I’m not one of those people who is like a strictly Stefan lover, I love Damon pretty much the same, I just don’t think him and Elena should be together. but….
In the show I’ve taken a liking to Damon, maybe not more than Stefan but I want to see Damon and Elena’s relationship explored more. The show and book couldn’t be any more different, but hey I guess thats what makes it bearable to watch! If we knew everything we might get bored (prob not but still!) On the show; Damon is less well…Damon, Elena is definitely not the strong willed girl she was, and Stefan seems to have a bit more of a personality!!!
Ian is wayyyyy hotter than Paul, if the choice was mine I’d pick him! LOL! I like Stefan more for Elena but Damon would be the one for me. I can’t wait for more flashback episodes, the producers said there would be one more. I really want to see more of Kathrine…maybe there going the direction of the 3rd book, most likely not but we can dream! I wish Meredith was on the show a lot. The producers said that eventually she would be but I feel that was just to please viewers who love the book. How would they introduce her? She can’t possibily be Elena’s best friend when they haven’t mentioned her once!!!
I chat on the vampire-diaries.net forums about the episodes. A lot of people have really good thoughts.
Sorry to keep posting but kinda off topic question;
I’ve only read the Vampire Diaries series and was wondering if any of LJ’s other books were good? And maybe a basic plot description. I checked out Nightworld at the bookstore today but it seemed sort of overwhelming.
If anybody has any recommendations that would be great
Thanks
@ashleylovez…i did read some of her other stuff but i didn’t enjoy them as much as vampire diaries.
I totally agree with the most of you, that Damon and Elena are really good for each other.
At least he need her, in a different way than Stefan do.
I’ve been a team Delena since I read the first book, even though he wasn’t the nicest person, he had something.
When they were with each other, their were sparkles, and it wasn’t booring.
I don’t want Stefan to be sad either, but at the sime time, as someone said: Safe is booring, but sometimes you have to take risks.
Elena and Stefan are just too sweet!
I don’t know what her secret is, and I’m really curious to find out.
Did you notice that it said:
SOMETIME’S, Damon’s telepathic voice came to her, a kiss is just a kiss . . . “
What the heck does that mean, sometimes?
I think they were sleeping with each other.
Hmm..
That was my opinion, everybody has their own.
I’d love if someone of you can tell me your own opinions, write to my twitter.
http://www.twitter.com/michaelasjolund
You know how in episode 14, in the tomb, Anna says only the blood of a Gilbert could revive Pearl and then gave Pearl Elena’s blood? Well, isn’t elena adopted? isn’t she a pierce?
@vampire
I remember Anna saying something like that in the show, but I dont think she said it HAD to be Gilbert blood, I think she just wanted it to be Gilbert blood that revived Pearl since it was the Gilberts that were responsible for the rounding up of the vampires in the first place. Oh and I dont think we know for certain if Elena is a Pierce or not. Yes, she was adopted, but we dont really know the details about it yet, I dont think. So far it looks as if Isobel (alaric’s wife) might be her mother…and Im wondering if she was related to Katherine in some way? I also remember in one of the episodes, Damon said that vampires couldnt procreate, which means, Katherine couldnt have had any children, so I cant figure out how exactly she would be related! lol Sorry if my ideas are kinda jumbled! lol I hope that helped! =)
oh thanks
i dont think katherine had children. it could’ve been like her sister or brother or something. elena could still be related to katherine.
@missy,thanx 4 the link!!!
Just popping in to say something, something that could have been said before. i haven’t read all comments so i wouldn’t have known if this has been thought of. =P With that said…..
If Katherine had a child before becoming a vampire, that kid would have had to look just like her. Then through a long line of Katherine-Look a-likes, Elena would have been born, but that is impossible because Alarics dead wife (If she is dead is being questioned by some) Isabel is the believed mother of Elena, who looks nothing like Katherine.
I thought I sent something.Hmmmm……… Oh well. I will just comment again, and if that other one shows up…OOPS! I am leaving this not knowing if anyone else has come up with this before….sorry if someone did!
If Katherine had a kid before the time she became a vampire, which is possible, then wouldn’t that kid have to look just like her(IF IT WAS A GIRL)? Then there would be a line of Kids who look like Katherine (A line which would have had to been all girls…), resulting in Elena being born looking like her. BUT, this is where that is proved wrong! Alaric’s believed dead wife Isobel, is also believed to be Elenas mother. And so far, if looks as if Isobel looks nothing like Katherine….. =/ confusing!
@Amelia S. none of Katherine’s kids (if she had any) would have to look like her, some people not related to a person look exactly alike, they would just have to have the genes
Not ALL of them have to look like katherine. It couldve been like none of her children looked a lot like her except for elena.
ELENA IS NOT KATHERINES CHILD. In the book Katherine was changed at 17, or younger I think. i doubt she would have a kid by then. We don’t even know about the resembelense yet but I’m sure they will conquer throughout the next few episodes.
We’re not sure yet if Elena was concieved naturally or through some weird paranormal way. We’ll just have to wait and see!!
Isn’t the Shi No Shi a hell-ish place?
I’ve read Dark Visions by L.J. Smith, and the plot has (note: don’t continue reading this paragraph if you want to read this book; I’m going to ruin it for you) the main girl first loving the super-sweet nice guy and rather disliking the bad boy, but ends up in the end with bad boy, realizing she loved him the whole time…(it was a rather quick ending, but it was happy nonetheless because the super-sweet nice guy ended up with a different nice girl). I don’t know if that helps any.
Also, I read on wikipedia that, concerning L.J. Smith’s stories, “There is usually a dark/light, good/evil conflict, revolving around a central, ambiguous character who, while trying to seduce the heroine to the darkness, ends up being himself reborn into the light and thus becoming a hero. ” (L.J. Smith’s Wikipedia page)… so Damon anyone?
***SPOILER***
In the NYLON interview video, Ian and Nina said Elena was half-vampire on the show…
***END SPOILER***
its doesn’t have to be katherine’s child. it couldve been like her sister/brother’s child or something like that. as long as elena’s related, then yeah…
yes, i heard it, i thought she was kidding or something!
And about ending up with a bad boy, don’t you remember that in the first book Bonnie told Elena how to summon her future husband?
She would have to do the ritual where she invites him at the stroke of midnight and sees his ghostly figure in the chair?
And she was all happy to see Stefan when guess who walked in???
Damon…
I don’t know if he manipulated this by spying on her or it was a prediction made by the author…
I know it has to be the genes involved here, somehow Elena’s mother/father has to be SOMETHING to Katherine.They couldn’t have randomly had a kid look exactly like Katherine without being from the Pierce family line. Perhaps it does have to be a sister/brother to Katherine.I know for sure it wasn’t Elena being Katherines daughter!! Then Elena would have to be like…super old, and Elenas mother is called Isobel! I just hope this all gets explained!
LJ Smith said in an interview that Elena and Katherine are NOT related. Katherine said in the end of book 3 “We must be related or something” but they are not.
Also, many of us already know the HUGE spoiler for the end of Shadow Souls. SO with that in mind I think all will be well :O)
It sound’s like I am totally lame or something, but what huge spoiler?
(And I didn\’t mean to leave such a huge smiley..)
The first 8 chapters of Shadow Souls has been released!!!!! At Harper Teen!
OMG!!! ok so the first 8 chapters of Shadow Souls have been released!!! Go to vampire-diaries.net and there is a link there!!!!! aaahhhh!!! cant wait to read them! Im gonna go do that now!!!! =D
I read it and I dont think its real..big let down. This teaser and the 8 chapters dont fit together. It says it ends at chapter 8 but it is really 9 chapters. It seemed real in the beginning but at the end of it you can tell its fake.
I read it and i think its fake. This first teaser and the new release dont match up.
i haven’t finished all 8 chapters yet, but since when can Damon fly? I don’t remember him flying in any other book, do you guys? From what you guys read…is there promise for this book? Do you think LJS is getting back on track?
I’m not convinced yet, and honestly just not so sure.
oh god… i just got a little further
TEARS THAT CAN HEAL SOMEONE?! what the hell is TVD coming to? I know it’s supernatural but they never took it this far, all of this seems silly…but of course I’m still going to read anyway.
yeah i realized that the last chapter on there didnt match up with the teaser on here too, but if you think about it….this was just a teaser…which means that parts of the chapter could have been left out of the teaser. So, if the first 9 chapters are real…then that could have been what they did. (just took certain parts out). I read the whole 9 chapters and I think it seems genuine, but I guess we will just have to see! Oh and i hate how it stops right before we get to all the juicy stuff in this scene in the teaser!!! grrr!!! i cant wait for the actual book to come out! March is taking way to long to get here!!!!! =D
just read the 9 chapters of shadow souls,seems ok,and yeah,still waiting 4 the WHOLE BOOK!!!!!come 2 think about it March is right around the corner(LOLOLOLOL!!!)
i agree with jessie. This is just a TEASER, and it was let out pretty early. LJ might have added some stuff in it and then it was published in the book. and as someone had said before on how damon can fly, he has a lot of power and he sometimes turns into a crow…..so he can fly….
Ashleylovez: what vampire probably meant when they said Damon NEEDED Elaina was that he NEEDED to be with her. Kind of like the whole Edward Bella thingy. He can’t help but feel pulled to her like a magnet. And Elaina never said she doesn’t need Damon. I mean why would she? She’s with his brother. But that doesn’t say she doesn’t need him. She probably doesn’t know it yet (it that’s the case) because she’s spent all her time focusing on Stefan. I think if Elaina really tooka step back from Stafan she’d see that she’s loved Damon all along too. As for the whole Elaina’s gonna have to end up with Stefan thing that’s not entirely true. Why would LJ just write another book to say “aww look the perfect little fairy tale Elaina and Stefan togather again now they’re going to get married and continue on with they’re perfect lives”. yeah no. There has to be some sort of twist. How good is a book if it always ends in a predictable slap happy ending? Especially the Vampire Diaries. SOMETHING has to happen. Something out of the blue that the readers could never predict. How many readers on here truly think Damon and Elaina would end up togather? Not many. Heck even a ton of Damon fans think she’d end up with Stefan. Which is why Elaina ending up with Damon would be perfect! It would jump out of the book and hit us in the face when we read it!
For the huge spoiler, a few people posted it on this page. BE WARNED though..I think everyone would rather not knowing then knowing. I wish I could have been surprised.
As for the first 8 and a little of 9 chapters. They are real and you can see them at Harpers Site
http://browseinside.harperteen.com/index.aspx?isbn13=9780061720819
I loved all of the chapters, especially the rose scenes with Damon. :O))))))
As for the flying, even in the last book he flew. Remember he “hovered” over the car Bonnie and Matt were in. Stefan flys as well.
Amazing Amazing!!! I love this new series!!
It was so good, I wish that that was actually what really would happen in Shadow of the Souls.
I hope in the real book she sticks with Stephan, though, even though her loving both brothers is enjoyable. The writer did an excellent job on this story.
i m still hoping 4 damon and elena,especially after reading the 8,9 chapters!!!
@Dawn,wait a minute……did i miss something here,is this 8,9 chapters fake or what?am i having a DUH moment???LOL
Elena’s “secret” is that she is a true maiden and her teals heal all illness.
Says so in the harperteen sneak peak that was posted just a few posts above
No they are not fake chapters, they are real
Why would L.J. Smith release nine chapters of her new book?? I think that its not a real copy or it was a rough draft if anything. I hope its not real!!! Damon flying?? How does anyone even know if its real? Just because its on Harper Teen does not make it real.
Harper Teen is her publisher. It is not weird, there are a lot of publishers who release chapters.
For the Sneak peek..WOOOO HOOO I am so excited that the 1st is only a couple weeks away. The cover also is perfect, being a Damon fan this is definitely my favorite book.
OMG i CANT WAiT TiLL i GET MY BOOK! iF i WERE ELENA i WOULD DEFF. STAY WiTH DAMON! YUMM
OMG i CANT WAiT TiLL i GET MY BOOK! iF i WERE ELENA i WOULD DEFF. STAY WiTH DAMON! YUMM
i defintely agree that it’s real…its posted on her PUBLISHER’s website. So it’s legit.
But i still don’t understand how both brothers can fly? I don’t ever remember Stefan flying by himself, only with Elena’s “magical” blood in his system during Nightfall. I’m wondering how Damon can fly without Elena’s blood, since she is no longer some “magical” angel. When has he flew before? Furthermore, how is it possible? I don’t remember them flying in the first 4 books…am i missing something or is the another one of the things LJS has added randomly into the books?
I agree with the “pure maiden” her tears heal things as the secret because Stefan told her so in one of the 9 chapters. But I think it is far fetched…does anybody else agree? I just feel like Elena’s tears being able to heal anything makes everything all too easy.
OHMIGOD!! I just read the first 8 or 9 chapters of Shadow Souls. This book by far is my most favourite book I have ever read. And I agree with Christine about LJ Smith writing these great books and have it end with Elena and Stefan together. But like obviously it won’t end like that, there will be a twist or even a possibility Elena and Damon ending up together. I hope so much they will. I will be so pissed off if they didn’t, but anyways LJ could have had the answer all this time about who Elena ends up with and if you have read the books, which I know everybody on this page has then you have read the hints in the books about Elena and Damon, especially in the first book.
I agree that the secret may be that Elena is a pure maiden and that Damon is realizing her tears have healing powers. I also agree with ashleylovez that this is kinda bazare and it kinda seems like everything will only be too easy now. However, the more I think about it, is it really that much weirder than killer trees and fox demons??? lol To me, the tear situation seems kinda normal after that! Besides, I think it kinda makes sense that Elena\’s tears can heal because she was a spirit not to long ago and was able to heal people then. For example when she healed Caroline\’s fingernails in the boarding house when she was freaking out at everyone. It will be very interesting to see how this all plays out because with healing tears…everything kinda seems like it would be really easy now.
lol no KILLER TREES TOP IT ALL! and espeically evil fox incest lovers!
it’s hard for me to explain my feelings for this books. they are completely mixed; i will read the book no matter what and do find it interesting but some parts are so unbelievable and silly.
No Christy, I think your theory about her secret being that she is a true maden is wrong. Though it is a possability, but I think that her secret is something she didn\\\’t already know. Plus, they didn\\\’t even arrive at the motel until like the end of chapter seven or in chapter eight. So I think she learns her secret at the motel. BTW I am rooting for a Damon/Bonnie realationship. The way he took her and only her out of the wreaked car and wanted to take care of her all on his own, no one else, is so sweet! I am a huge sucker for the bad boy being sweet. I think he has a real soft spot for Bonnie. Even though it seems ironic that the sweet little pixie girl would fall for the dark hard shell bad boy, I am really hoping for this to work out. Bonnie is the only girl who has ever charmed Damon without becoming a snack and without him influencing her, except maybe at Alaric\\\’s party. But she actually charmed him after that. With Elena, I think that Damon thinks that he really is charmed by Elena, but I think it probably started out as a revenge move. He wanted to get back at Stefan by influencing Elena, then he actually decided he wanted her. I think that he thinks that he actually loves her but that he\\\’s really trying to get back at Stefan, he just doesn\\\’t know it, and neither does anyone else. I am sorry if you are confused. It makes sense in my mind but it might not in yours. This is my own oppinion, so please don\\\’t scream at me and stake my heart for stating my oppinion (trust me, it\\\’s happened before). I just can\\\’t wait another month for this book to come out! I can\’t!
Also, here are who I think should be together:
*Bonnie & Damon
*Elena & Stefan
*Merideth & Alaric
*Matt
*Note- if something doesn’t work out with Merideth and Alaric, I think Matt and Merideth should be together, just so Matt and Merideth aren’t left in the dust, I can’t really picture Matt and Merideth together.
@ashleylovez- I totally agree with you!!!! lol
@Addie – I agree with you that Damon definately has a soft spot for Bonnie! However, Im not really into the whole Bonnie/Damon relationship. I think that even if Damon did feel for her in that way, I think that Bonnie would be too scared to pursue it. I know she has kissed him before but she just seems so scared all the time that I dont think their relationship would really work out. I could be wrong of course, but I just dont see it happening! I do respect your opinion though and I can see the basis of where you are coming from! I am also a total sucker for the badboy turning sweet! haha! LOVE IT!!! Thats probably why I love all of Damon’s sweet scenes!
As for my choice in couples…I still dont know! I absolutely love Damon and I would love it if Damon and Elena got together, but I would be devastated for Stefan if that were to happen! So, I cant say what exactly I am feeling! haha! I guess we shall just wait and see what happens! Oh the agony!!! lol
the reason that i think the “pure maiden” thing could be the secret is because Elena thinks Damon DOES NOT KNOW. I remember in the teaser above there was something like he knew she knew he knew. And maybe it could also pretain to the little boy Damon trapped to the rock. I don’t believe that Elena thinks Damon has any idea. Sorry it’s confusing maybe somebody will be able to explain it better than me.
Oh and I forgot! I do for sure what Matt and Bonnie together!!! I do know that! lol @Addie – I cant really see Matt and Meredith together either, but if all else fails, I suppose that is the next best thing, so no one is left out! haha! I think Meredith would be ok alone, but for some reason I think it would be really depressing if Matt ended up alone! poor guy!!! lol
I agree with you ashleylovez! It is super difficult to explain but I get what you are saying! I dont think I can really explain it any better at this point tho! lol
i never knew a “pure maiden’s” tears could heal everything….so far fetched
Damon needs Elena and truly loves her with every fiber of his being and I think he will awaken something deep dark and unbidden in Elena and she will realize that she loves him so much more then Stefan and that she belongs with him.
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Elena is being drawn into the whirlwind that is Damon and I say, don’t fight it.
even reading these new chapters,to me,damon never mentioned bonnie in any affectionate way,just in passing,am i wrong???i didn’t even see him worry about her,it was only elena that he looked after…JMO!!!oh,and after she finds stefan and things will be normal again,she’s going to really miss damon,probably that will be the only time thing’s will start changing 4 her…don’t shoot me 2,like i said it is JMO!DAMON and ELENA intrigue me that’s all…
OK, just a newsflash.. I read something about L.J.’s work Dark visions and it says that she has a tendency to create love triangles of dark and light (bad guy- good guy)
and that the bad guy is usually redeemed of his cruel actions by the love for the main girl character and actually becomes the hero of the story..
So if she has a tendency to like bad guys and make them good why change the habit???
i think the boulder and the boy scene will have something to do with Damon breaking out of his shell (obviously.) Then, he might actually show Elena he loves her. Still want her to be with Stefan but either way I still like to hear both sides. Hopefully Damon will break out of his shell. It would be nice if him and Bonnie would get together so he’s not alone. But, I don’t see ANY evidence that he feels anything towards Bonnie. Am i missing something? Does anybody else see it?
And with everyone who thinks the story is far fetched I totally agree. I wonder what the book reviews are gonna look like on this one. Either way I enjoy and will continue to read. I hope Matt finds someone….even though he gets on my nerves!
@ashleylovez,u c,as i do there is nothing that shows anything between bonnie and damon!!!it just doesn’t click.JMO….
http://browseinside.harperteen.com/index.aspx?isbn13=9780061720819
I read the above chapters and think they are AWESOME! However, Smith made a mistake. In the first chapter Elena says Damon showed her to hide her Aura. A few Chapters later though, Damon shows her for what is said is the first time and he does it to her to show her how its done.
LJ Smith said in an interview one of them will Die in Midnight. Now which ones she was pertaining to I dont know. Did she mean the main three or just the whole group. Also keep in mind the third book was her closing to the series. She only wrote the 4th a year later because of how many fans complained. Now who did she kill off at the end of the series…Elena! SO my point is anyone of them is fair game if she will kill off the main character.
Could it be Bonnie who dies coz in one of the books Bonnie said she had a prediction that she was gonna die young?
AAA don’t say that missy!!
her books usually end in happy end!! or i think..
but it would be stupid to kill elena AGAIN.. but Damon..hm i think that for him is better to redeem himself and be good instead of killing him..
something like sawyer in lost if u watch that show! I thought the whole first season that they were going to kill him cause he was really mean and what do u know, he lasted 6 seasons!!
so maybe there’s a chance for damon cause they are quite similar in character when u think of it..
but different people, different opinions..
maybe she got sick of putting the main character with a bad guy..i don’t know!
what do u think??
I think that either Stefan, Damon, or Bonnie will die.I hate Bonnie that little brat! i hope she’s the one! Or Stefan so that Damon and Elena can be together…
@sara23
I totally know what you are talking about! I love Lost and I was totally thinking the same thing about Sawyer!! I think that it would totally make sense for Damon to go kinda the same way. I think that it is more important for Damon to redeem himself.
If it is true that someone will die in Midnight, I really hope that it does not end up being Damon! I think he has so much more potential. As much as I love all the characters, I think that it would be good if someoned did die in the last book because it would make it so much more exciting. It would make sense if Bonnie ended up dying because there have been hints in the previous books about her dying young. and as much as I love Stefan, I think the books would be super interesting if he ended up dying for Elena or something like that. I love all the characters so if any of them did die, I would be super upset, but I think the book needs something huge like that to happen to kind of redeem itself from all these silly situations like the Killer Trees!!! lol
Idk perhaps she is getting tired of putting the main character with the bad boy…I hope not, because at this point I really love Damon and after reading those chapters, I think I really love Damon and Elena together! This book just has me all sorts of confused because I really dont know what I want to happen! lol
@jessie
i hope that she doesn’t kill Damon too!
i also think that Damon has potential to develop as a character cause that’s what she’s had in mind for him, otherwise she wouldn’t make him that more interesting and Stefan sooo one-sided and dull..
i just hope that she doesn’t go “oh i always put bad boys with good girls,maybe i’m too predictable, let’s make a twist and kill Damon instead” !!!!
but i think writers stick to their style..
but common she HAS to know how many of her fans prefer Damon! she wouldn’t be stupid enough and kill him!! or would she??
and what’s that about delena not being and OTP for this season? who said that? the producers?
i saw a fan pick on the forum so just asking..
I dont think the books would be as interesting without Damon. I would say more that it would be Bonnie because of the hints. Thought some of us know the spoiler for the end of this book and that very well could change things in that persons life span. I think every one of them could go. To see the interview you can scroll up, its the second to last interview I posted. Also these 8 chapters that were released, remember Elenas dream. The things Damon said and the things the two people were arguing about.
Sara, LJ Smith says her favorite Character of all time shes written was Damon. So shes a Damon fan as well, she also said Shadow Souls is her favorite book she has written.
L. J. Smith: Where the girl is sort of saying as her predecessor, which I’m skipping forward in the series a bit ‘cause her predecessor, Katherine who looks just like her, wants both boys to be with her. Elena ends like that too. Elena ends up in the position of wanting both Damon and Stefan, which is like Elena. Although she learns a lot of things, she still is Elena and she can’t really see why monogamy should apply to women when so often it doesn’t apply to men.
L. J. Smith: Shadow Souls is my favorite book, can I say that?
link to this interview http://www.theauthorhour.com/l-j-smith/extras.php#Interview
hello , welll, i cant wait to read this book, honestly, i didn’t read the comments up because i’m really, just passing by so, im soryy if i repeat something that is already said.
i love this trilogy, i really would like that damon stays with bonnie, and as well as lj smith damon is my favorite character too!!
also i wanna say that the serie is too different from the books, and im getting just a little dissaptng because they turn things so much, but im really agree that ian sonmerhalder is ddamon , i mean he is so perfect for the roll and he’s exactly the same as i thought damon would be ,…. but i honestly prefer the books, im from mexico, so, the fifth book its not publish yet so i had to read it in english , and theres a lot of words i cant understand but anyway ,, can someone tell me when do this book will be able to readd??
thanksss!!!
i just hope she doesn’t kill Stefan or Damon!!! If she kills Elena (and the book ends there) atleast we’ll know her wings of redemption will eventually come back and her tears will heal her and she’ll be back to life….even if it’s not actually written in the book. LOL
it’s ironic that you relate Damon to Sawyer, although I don’t watch Lost, I remember Ian Somerhalder saying Sawyer is one of the few characters he draws inspiration from to play Damon. Haha, you guys were spot-on!!! atleast with the show anyway.
K, I think you might be on to something!
My thinking is sometimes with very little or almost no evidence, so if you don’t agree, that is my reason. N E way, the thing about Bonnie dying young, I think she will be about to die and Damon will save her and reveal his true feelings for her. (like I said before, I most of the time assume things with little or just a ghost of evidence, so if you don’t get it, I understand. BTW, I am also assuming this by how Damon keeps having to save Bonnie repeatedly.) (this might not even happen, I am one of those people who jump to huge conclusions by the littlest things.) And remember L.J. Smith saying that the ending would shock us? (I think that she said that) Well that might be the shock! I really hope so! Oh and, Jessie, I agree with you, Bonnie seems to be too afraid to have a real realationship with Damon, but I think that that might be part of the surprise ending. I am jumping to conclusions, but I am hoping greatly that I am right, probably not going to be though, I rarely am right, but I’m hoping!
books and series: Damon&Elena all the way!
i am a huge damon/elena fan. I dont want anyone to be alone but i dont see how everyone will fit together. i love damon, but i think that if damon died the story would be really exciting. i disagre that bonnie and damon would be good together. sure he cares about her, but he doesn’t want her like that at ALL. its elena for him now, and youll understand that if you read the first few chapters of shadow souls. i know what i said is confusing, sorry. im rooting for damon/elena, bonnie/matt, and meredith/alaric. as someone said before a long time ago, i wish there was some way stefan could be with katherine…but she’s deaddd
this might sound stupid, but i dont get page 92 in the first eight chapters of shadow souls. what does it mean that elena could cut the tension with a folded napkin, much less a knife. and then after that, does it mean that elena found out damon wants her?
SPOILER
ALERT:
http://browseinside.harperteen.com/index.aspx?isbn13=9780061720819
PLEASE guys help me out here before I go completely insane. I have found this other teaser which has the first 120 pages of Shadow Souls and now I am more confused than ever because it is a little bit different to the teaser here on this website. Perhaps because one is a draft or later revision IDK
??
I REALLY, REALLY so want Damon and Elena to end up together. As much as I like Stefan he is really no match for Elena, he’s really nice and sweet and treats her like a Princess but she is a girl with a lot of spirit that needs someone more exciting and passionate – like Damon. They challenge each other and their chemistry is explosive, or at least I believe it will be when we finally get to read their first love scene.
I think they will be together because of the Dumb Supper in the first book, surely LJ could not have forgotten about that.
I was going crazy wondering about this secret that Damon has now discovered about Elena but having read through some of the comments I agree with many of you that she is a virgin and also this SEEMS to be confirmed in this new teaser. The only other spin on the secret thing might be that she enjoys nurturing vamps. It states in Nightfall, that she is one of the elite (and rarest) amongst humans in this regard.
I don’t think Elena and Stefan ever had sex because although Stefan is living in modern times he still holds to his 1860’s moral standards and would not expect to have sex with Elena unless they were married. Remember that he gave her Katherine’s ring and they planed to marry, just before she died and turned into a vampire. When she was a spirit child he seemed even reluctant to kiss her as her worried about having her informed consent. I don’t believe she ever had sex with Matt because I don’t believe their relationship was a very passionate one, more like a very close friendship – and she dropped him pretty fast when Stefan came along. So I am going with the virgin idea, which is probably why Damon is happy, especially if he has been harbouring some jealous thoughts in that direction, (pages 101-103).
If you go to the link above and read the first 120 pages of the book, please give me your thoughts about pages 53 and 54 where she is with Stefan in an out of body experience and starts to cry. Stefan tells her they are the tears of a Pure Maiden, although she kind of states to him that “he should know better” and he ignores this statement WTF ????? Confused much ?? Is she pure, not pure, virgin, un-virgin (is that a word) – I’m going crazy about this secret.
On Pages 101 to 103 Damon states that her aura is driving him crazy, as it would any vampire, and that he is wanting her PHYSICALLY as he has never wanted a woman in the past 500 years – and THAT HE CAN (meaning that her aura not only has the effect of making vampires want her physically in a way that they are not usually interested in but they somehow can follow thru on it also. Also he is getting himself into a jealous hissy fit thinking about any other guys that may have touched her. ????
Damon has nver really had an relationship with a woman. What he had with Katherine was a bad case of puppy love which turned into a full blown obsession. Since the time he lost Katherine he has only had a long succession of brief encounters. When Elena came along he was actually FORCED to get to know her as a person. She was his brother’s GF so he couldn’t touch her or use her as he was used to doing with other women. He had to get to know her as a real person and found that he respected her spunk or spirit and then fell in love with her.
O.K. here’s a real brain teaser on Page 108. She is having a bath in the motel and she has used some of the special magical bath crystals that were given to her by Mrs. Flowers, the white witch. Then she starts to fall asleep in the bath and has this dream which starts out with voices arguing about her – and it’s really quite a riddle but I have a feeling that it’s very key to the storyline somehow. I can’t figure it out.
By the way, the love scene between Elena and Damon above from Authspot, seems better written than the love scene in this longer teaser from Harper Teen (the link I gave above this post) because in this teaser from Harper Teen, she is trying to heal Damon’s soul or spirit at the same time as they are supposed to be having this passionate make-out moment, which I think sucks. Do one or the other but not both at the same time, it spoils the moment.
Anyway, for those who choose to read this latest teaser I am anxiously awaiting your thoughts to help me solve this riddle of the secret etc. until we can finally get a hold of the book.
Bonnie and Matt should be together. Meredith and Alaric. Caroline is going to have pups or wolves whatever – so who knows who she will end up with.
I think Stefan will end up dying. I don’t see a threesome. Elena always tried very hard to be unlike Katherine. She did not want to pit brother against brother. Also, Stefan and Damon insisted to Katherine that she make a choice between them, even though she wanted both. So I def. don’t see a threesome.
SPOILER
ALERT:
http://browseinside.harperteen.com/index.aspx?isbn13=9780061720819
PLEASE guys help me out here before I go completely insane. I have found this other teaser which has the first 120 pages of Shadow Souls and now I am more confused than ever because it is a little bit different to the teaser here on this website. Perhaps because one is a draft or later revision IDK
??
I REALLY, REALLY so want Damon and Elena to end up together. As much as I like Stefan he is really no match for Elena, he\’s really nice and sweet and treats her like a Princess but she is a girl with a lot of spirit that needs someone more exciting and passionate – like Damon. They challenge each other and their chemistry is explosive, or at least I believe it will be when we finally get to read their first love scene.
I think they will be together because of the Dumb Supper in the first book, surely LJ could not have forgotten about that.
I was going crazy wondering about this secret that Damon has now discovered about Elena but having read through some of the comments I agree with many of you that she is a virgin and also this SEEMS to be confirmed in this new teaser. The only other spin on the secret thing might be that she enjoys nurturing vamps. It states in Nightfall, that she is one of the elite (and rarest) amongst humans in this regard.
I don\’t think Elena and Stefan ever had sex because although Stefan is living in modern times he still holds to his 1860\’s moral standards and would not expect to have sex with Elena unless they were married. Remember that he gave her Katherine\’s ring and they planed to marry, just before she died and turned into a vampire. When she was a spirit child he seemed even reluctant to kiss her as her worried about having her informed consent. I don\’t believe she ever had sex with Matt because I don\’t believe their relationship was a very passionate one, more like a very close friendship – and she dropped him pretty fast when Stefan came along. So I am going with the virgin idea, which is probably why Damon is happy, especially if he has been harbouring some jealous thoughts in that direction, (pages 101-103).
If you go to the link above and read the first 120 pages of the book, please give me your thoughts about pages 53 and 54 where she is with Stefan in an out of body experience and starts to cry. Stefan tells her they are the tears of a Pure Maiden, although she kind of states to him that \”he should know better\” and he ignores this statement WTF ????? Confused much ?? Is she pure, not pure, virgin, un-virgin (is that a word) – I\’m going crazy about this secret.
On Pages 101 to 103 Damon states that her aura is driving him crazy, as it would any vampire, and that he is wanting her PHYSICALLY as he has never wanted a woman in the past 500 years – and THAT HE CAN (meaning that her aura not only has the effect of making vampires want her physically in a way that they are not usually interested in but they somehow can follow thru on it also. Also he is getting himself into a jealous hissy fit thinking about any other guys that may have touched her. ????
Damon has nver really had an relationship with a woman. What he had with Katherine was a bad case of puppy love which turned into a full blown obsession. Since the time he lost Katherine he has only had a long succession of brief encounters. When Elena came along he was actually FORCED to get to know her as a person. She was his brother\’s GF so he couldn\’t touch her or use her as he was used to doing with other women. He had to get to know her as a real person and found that he respected her spunk or spirit and then fell in love with her.
O.K. here\’s a real brain teaser on Page 108. She is having a bath in the motel and she has used some of the special magical bath crystals that were given to her by Mrs. Flowers, the white witch. Then she starts to fall asleep in the bath and has this dream which starts out with voices arguing about her – and it\’s really quite a riddle but I have a feeling that it\’s very key to the storyline somehow. I can\’t figure it out.
By the way, the love scene between Elena and Damon above from Authspot, seems better written than the love scene in this longer teaser from Harper Teen (the link I gave above this post) because in this teaser from Harper Teen, she is trying to heal Damon\’s soul or spirit at the same time as they are supposed to be having this passionate make-out moment, which I think sucks. Do one or the other but not both at the same time, it spoils the moment.
Anyway, for those who choose to read this latest teaser I am anxiously awaiting your thoughts to help me solve this riddle of the secret etc. until we can finally get a hold of the book.
Bonnie and Matt should be together. Meredith and Alaric. Caroline is going to have pups or wolves whatever – so who knows who she will end up with.
I think Stefan will end up dying. I don\’t see a threesome. Elena always tried very hard to be unlike Katherine. She did not want to pit brother against brother. Also, Stefan and Damon insisted to Katherine that she make a choice between them, even though she wanted both. So I def. don\’t see a threesome.
SPOILER
ALERT:
http://browseinside.harperteen.com/index.aspx?isbn13=9780061720819
PLEASE guys help me out here before I go completely insane. I have found this other teaser which has the first 120 pages of Shadow Souls and now I am more confused than ever because it is a little bit different to the teaser here on this website. Perhaps because one is a draft or later revision IDK
??
I REALLY, REALLY so want Damon and Elena to end up together. As much as I like Stefan he is really no match for Elena, he is really nice and sweet and treats her like a Princess but she is a girl with a lot of spirit that needs someone more exciting and passionate – like Damon. They challenge each other and their chemistry is explosive, or at least I believe it will be when we finally get to read their first love scene.
I think they will be together because of the Dumb Supper in the first book, surely LJ could not have forgotten about that.
I was going crazy wondering about this secret that Damon has now discovered about Elena but having read through some of the comments I agree with many of you that she is a virgin and also this SEEMS to be confirmed in this new teaser. The only other spin on the secret thing might be that she enjoys nurturing vamps. It states in Nightfall, that she is one of the elite (and rarest) amongst humans in this regard.
I don’t think Elena and Stefan ever had sex because although Stefan is living in modern times he still holds to his 1860’s moral standards and would not expect to have sex with Elena unless they were married. Remember that he gave her Katherines ring and they planed to marry, just before she died and turned into a vampire. When she was a spirit child he seemed even reluctant to kiss her as her worried about having her informed consent. I dont believe she ever had sex with Matt because I dont believe their relationship was a very passionate one, more like a very close friendship – and she dropped him pretty fast when Stefan came along. So I am going with the virgin idea, which is probably why Damon is happy, especially if he has been harbouring some jealous thoughts in that direction, (pages 101-103).
If you go to the link above and read the first 120 pages of the book, please give me your thoughts about pages 53 and 54 where she is with Stefan in an out of body experience and starts to cry. Stefan tells her they are the tears of a Pure Maiden, although she kind of states to him that he should know better and he ignores this statement WTF ????? Confused much ?? Is she pure, not pure, virgin, un-virgin (is that a word) – Im going crazy about this secret.
On Pages 101 to 103 Damon states that her aura is driving him crazy, as it would any vampire, and that he is wanting her PHYSICALLY as he has never wanted a woman in the past 500 years – and THAT HE CAN (meaning that her aura not only has the effect of making vampires want her physically in a way that they are not usually interested in but they somehow can follow thru on it also. Also he is getting himself into a jealous hissy fit thinking about any other guys that may have touched her. ????
Damon has nver really had an relationship with a woman. What he had with Katherine was a bad case of puppy love which turned into a full blown obsession. Since the time he lost Katherine he has only had a long succession of brief encounters. When Elena came along he was actually FORCED to get to know her as a person. She was his brothers GF so he could not touch her or use her as he was used to doing with other women. He had to get to know her as a real person and found that he respected her spunk or spirit and then fell in love with her.
O.K. heres a real brain teaser on Page 108. She is having a bath in the motel and she has used some of the special magical bath crystals that were given to her by Mrs. Flowers, the white witch. Then she starts to fall asleep in the bath and has this dream which starts out with voices arguing about her – and it is really quite a riddle but I have a feeling that it is very key to the storyline somehow. I cant figure it out.
By the way, the love scene between Elena and Damon above from Authspot, seems better written than the love scene in this longer teaser from Harper Teen (the link I gave above this post) because in this teaser from Harper Teen, she is trying to heal Damons soul or spirit at the same time as they are supposed to be having this passionate make-out moment, which I think sucks. Do one or the other but not both at the same time, it spoils the moment.
Anyway, for those who choose to read this latest teaser I am anxiously awaiting your thoughts to help me solve this riddle of the secret etc. until we can finally get a hold of the book.
Bonnie and Matt should be together. Meredith and Alaric. Caroline is going to have pups or wolves whatever – so who knows who she will end up with.
I think Stefan will end up dying. I dont see a threesome. Elena always tried very hard to be unlike Katherine in that way. She did not want to pit brother against brother. Also, Stefan and Damon insisted to Katherine that she make a choice between them, even though she wanted both. So I def. dont see a threesome.
SPOILER
ALERT:
www. browseinside.harperteen.com/index.aspx?isbn13=9780061720819
PLEASE guys help me out here before I go completely insane. I have found this other teaser which has the first 120 pages of Shadow Souls and now I am more confused than ever because it is a little bit different to the teaser here on this website. Perhaps because one is a draft or later revision IDK
??
I REALLY, REALLY so want Damon and Elena to end up together. As much as I like Stefan he is really no match for Elena, he is really nice and sweet and treats her like a Princess but she is a girl with a lot of spirit that needs someone more exciting and passionate – like Damon. They challenge each other and their chemistry is explosive, or at least I believe it will be when we finally get to read their first love scene.
I think they will be together because of the Dumb Supper in the first book, surely LJ could not have forgotten about that.
I was going crazy wondering about this secret that Damon has now discovered about Elena but having read through some of the comments I agree with many of you that she is a virgin and also this SEEMS to be confirmed in this new teaser. The only other spin on the secret thing might be that she enjoys nurturing vamps. It states in Nightfall, that she is one of the elite (and rarest) amongst humans in this regard.
I don\\\’t think Elena and Stefan ever had sex because although Stefan is living in modern times he still holds to his 1860\\\’s moral standards and would not expect to have sex with Elena unless they were married. Remember that he gave her Katherines ring and they planed to marry, just before she died and turned into a vampire. When she was a spirit child he seemed even reluctant to kiss her as her worried about having her informed consent. I dont believe she ever had sex with Matt because I dont believe their relationship was a very passionate one, more like a very close friendship – and she dropped him pretty fast when Stefan came along. So I am going with the virgin idea, which is probably why Damon is happy, especially if he has been harbouring some jealous thoughts in that direction, (pages 101-103).
If you go to the link above and read the first 120 pages of the book, please give me your thoughts about pages 53 and 54 where she is with Stefan in an out of body experience and starts to cry. Stefan tells her they are the tears of a Pure Maiden, although she kind of states to him that he should know better and he ignores this statement WTF ????? Confused much ?? Is she pure, not pure, virgin, un-virgin (is that a word) – Im going crazy about this secret.
On Pages 101 to 103 Damon states that her aura is driving him crazy, as it would any vampire, and that he is wanting her PHYSICALLY as he has never wanted a woman in the past 500 years – and THAT HE CAN (meaning that her aura not only has the effect of making vampires want her physically in a way that they are not usually interested in but they somehow can follow thru on it also. Also he is getting himself into a jealous hissy fit thinking about any other guys that may have touched her. ????
Damon has nver really had an relationship with a woman. What he had with Katherine was a bad case of puppy love which turned into a full blown obsession. Since the time he lost Katherine he has only had a long succession of brief encounters. When Elena came along he was actually FORCED to get to know her as a person. She was his brothers GF so he could not touch her or use her as he was used to doing with other women. He had to get to know her as a real person and found that he respected her spunk or spirit and then fell in love with her.
O.K. heres a real brain teaser on Page 108. She is having a bath in the motel and she has used some of the special magical bath crystals that were given to her by Mrs. Flowers, the white witch. Then she starts to fall asleep in the bath and has this dream which starts out with voices arguing about her – and it is really quite a riddle but I have a feeling that it is very key to the storyline somehow. I cant figure it out.
By the way, the love scene between Elena and Damon above from Authspot, seems better written than the love scene in this longer teaser from Harper Teen (the link I gave above this post) because in this teaser from Harper Teen, she is trying to heal Damons soul or spirit at the same time as they are supposed to be having this passionate make-out moment, which I think sucks. Do one or the other but not both at the same time, it spoils the moment.
Anyway, for those who choose to read this latest teaser I am anxiously awaiting your thoughts to help me solve this riddle of the secret etc. until we can finally get a hold of the book.
Bonnie and Matt should be together. Meredith and Alaric. Caroline is going to have pups or wolves whatever – so who knows who she will end up with.
I think Stefan will end up dying. I dont see a threesome. Elena always tried very hard to be unlike Katherine in that way. She did not want to pit brother against brother. Also, Stefan and Damon insisted to Katherine that she make a choice between them, even though she wanted both. So I def. dont see a threesome.
@Dawn, although in the show Elena and Stefan DID sleep together, I don’t think they have in the book. There is never any accusation that they did so I assume it didn’t happen. Whereas in the show Elena flat out says to Stefan “I slept with you” (and then goes on to whine about her looking like Katherine.)
LJS might very well forget about the dumb supper thing since she seems to haven’t forgotten several things pertaining to the first 4 books, example: THE TIME PERIOD. LOL!
I don’t think that even if Katherine could somehow come back that Stefan would even want her after what happend between her, Elena, Damon, and himself. So theres no chance of that even if it were possible. Stefan is very loyal and would never do that.
Pertaining Elena’s aura; no vampire can “resist” her, is what I think LJS is getting at. Meaning they not only want her blood but her as a person or rather a companion. Which then poses the question why does Damon really want Elena? Why the sudden interest (well maybe not sudden depends how you look at it?) Is it because of her powerful aura or just because. Stefan loves her outside of her aura, he loved her since the beginning.
To be quite honest I don’t like Bonnie, I thought I did, but I don’t. LJ Smith has never given her the chance to grow up that she oh so deserves. Throughout all the books Bonnie has been this annoying little baby, only showing herself to be strong a few times throughout the series. I wish LJS would step up and develop Bonnie’s character. She’s barely changed at all. If she was more mature I got see her going for Damon. But she is like a little child that everybody has to look after. How annoying would that be as a friend? Meredith always has to be with her at all times, always pushing her to do something, and saving her butt! Matt might sorta of like her but he seems more of a protective little sister thing. The same goes for her and Damon’s relationship; he constantly wants to save her because shes like a child. She absolutely can’t fend for herself in ANY situation. Does this bother anybody else?
I’m not sure what the deal was with Mrs. Flowers healing bath salt….maybe Elena was so relaxed that she feel alseep. I didn’t really understand that whole agrument thing either; if anybody can clarify please do!
One last thing, the whole her seeing Stefan thing was weird. Out of body experience? Oh god, so weird. And especially the whole connecting with a red string and thats how she could find him. Damn, the trip would be much easier if she just remembered the way, huh?! LOL. I feel like the tears that can heal, and her being literally connected to Stefan makes the whole book way to EASY. Hopefully some twist comes along.
@Addie- That is a very interesting thought and funnily enough, i can see how that could work! lol Personally I dont think it will, but hey, we all have our dreams dont we!? lol
@Dawn- On pages 53 and 54, I really dont know what she is. Im just as confused as you are! I never thought that Stefan and Elena actually had sex because a vampire’s way of doing that would be exchanging blood which we all know they have done. So, I guess she isnt a virgin in that sense, but I do think she is a virgin in the ‘normal’ way! lol idk if that makes any sense! So maybe Elena was referring to the exchanging blood when she was disagreeing with the pure maiden part? I guess none of us really know what a “pure maiden” is. We know she was a spirit child and that all througout Nightfall, everyone was calling her pure, so maybe that has something to do with it. Otherwise i really dont know!
The part I was wondering about on that page was…If stefan and elena cannot touch each other, then how can her tears be touching Stefan??? lol Any thoughts about that anyone?
As for the riddle in the dream…I really have no clue about at all! lol But I do think that you are right about it being essential to the book! Maybe it has something to do with Shinichi since he has been taking away Damon’s memories, maybe he is going to do something like that to elena? and perhaps the whole second chance thing is referring to Damon? I cant figure out how that conversation in the dream would make sense with that though. I need more information!!!! lol
@ashleylovez- Ive always liked all the characters including Bonnie but she can be very annoying! I have this problem where I almost always like everyone in books and sympathize with them. Bonnie has been super annoying throughout the books but for some reason, I cant bring myself to dislike her! lol I really wish that LJ would somehow transform her a little more though! Perhaps she will finally realize that she needs to grow up and cannot rely on Meredith or anyone else forever! At least she wouldnt be so annoying and whiny anymore then.
Oh and with the whole Meredith and Alaric relationship…does anyone know if we are going to be seeing more of Alaric or is going to stay in Russia or wherever he is at for the rest of the series? Maybe he will make some huge discovery about something while he is away and come and help save the day! lol I keep wondering if he has a bigger part than just being Meredith’s boyfriend and the minor parts he had in The Fury. Ive always kinda thought he was mysterious!
@jessie stefan said that the PHANTOM tears of a pure maiden could heal everything, so her tears healed him, even though they couldn’t touch each other.
i also like bonnie, but i really understand how some people think she’s an annoying little brat. i would love it if LJ let her grow a up little instead of relying on everyone else, like how jessie said.
O M G!! O.O I WANNA READ IT ALLL!!! O M G!! CAN’T WAIT!! THNX 4 POSTING THIS TEASER!! LOVE DAMON!
And i think her secret is that she love him, and as i think she really do! She convince her self that she is loving Stefan not Damon, but the trith is she is loving both of them! thats what i think, but let’s whats going to happen! this book will be in stores March, right??
@Reem- the secret isn’t that she loves him. he says “i know what you ARE.”
i agree with you guys are saying. It’s not that I don’t like Bonnie, she just urks (spelling?) me. I like all the characters are they all work with the books but like you all I just wish she would grow up!
I hope Alaric does start to play a bigger part, I like him, and he seems to know a lot and can be essential help to them.
I really really hope that Elena ends up with Damon in the end. I have been a huge fan of Damon I started reading the series. I am completely in love with him. All I want is that Damon be happy at the end of the series. If will be incredibly sad and angry if LJ kills him off. My is my character of all time of any book that I have read!!!! I do not like Elena with Stefan. Stefan does not for me. I find him so boring. He is too perfect. I love the character of Damon so much and I really hope that LJ surprises us and lets Damon and Elena be together in the end. Cannot wait to read the rest of Shadow Souls and find out what the secret is!!! Less than a month now till March 16th!!! Counting down the days. Team DAMON ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!
@vampire- Oh ok!!! Thanks! I was kinda confused there for a little bit! I didnt catch that at first!!! haha! =)
Delena, I LOVE all your thoughts! Please stay around :O)
Someone up there mentioned the surprise, which LJ Smith referred to that will happen at the end of Shadow Souls. If anyone is interested in it just scroll through the comments and you will find it. I warn again though, you dont want to know!
A Pure Maiden is An unmarried woman; a girl or woman who has not experienced sexual intercourse; a virgin, unpolluted
As for the flying, I just re read NightFall and both Stefan(without Elena and with) flew as did Damon and of course Elena.
Now here is the riddle we need to figure out, the two arguing voices.
” A second Chance? Ive spoken to her about it.”
“She wont remember anything.”
“It doesnt matter whether she remembers. Everything will remain inside her if un awakened.”
“It will germinate inside her until the time is right.”
Also she talks in the dream about her true mate(Damon) She also said what has happened did not matter now.
I am wondering, does Damon or Stefan do something unforgivable? Do one of them do something and she loses memory of it? Which would refer to the it remaining inside her, and if the memory was brought back it would be let out and she would remember? Or did Stefan do something and Damon talked to her about giving STEFAN a second chance? Although she doesnt remember what for…. What does everyone think?
Delena..AMAZING thoughts!
I think (well wish) that Damon should be with Elena. To me, Damon’s care for Bonnie represents the “humanity” in him, since saving her shows his selflessness as he cares for her without being in love with her (if that makes sense?) Damon referring to BOnnie as his “little bird” to me simply suggests a protective nature towards someone so fragile and vunerable rather than anything romantic. Moreover as some other people have already said, I feel that Bonnie in the books is not mature enough for Damon and is far too innocent in her lines of thought. She is not strong enough to break Damons bravado and change him, like Elena can.
As for Damon and Elena, I feel like they are each other’s match, since Elena feels she can master all the guys except Damon and vice versa, which creates a fascination between them for the other person, this drawing them closer. Stefan is too easy for Elena and does not challenge her in any way, which someone of her strong assertive personality would want. I feel that Stefan should be with someone of a much “softer” personality, if you know what I mean.
Btw, does anyone else think it should be Damon/Elena and Stefan/Bonnie at least in the tv show if not the books, since I thought they had amazing chemistry in episode 11
To be honest, Elena ending up with Damon or Stefan would both be boring. Well, not boring but expected. A real twist would be if she met someone else or went for shinichi or tyler…chill out! Not saying she ever would, and don’t get me wrong I would hate if that happend, but that would be a real twist. To be saying Elena ending up with Damon would be a twist…it really wouldn’t. We all know it could happen and they do have chemistry.
As for this lost conversation — I wonder if Elena even knows she heard it — I have no idea who could be talking or what it pertains too. I need to hear a few thoughts from you guys to get my mind going with a theory.
I don’t think Bonnie and Stefan should be together at all. Bonnie bothers me! She reminds me of a preschooler. I feel like every boy that would touch her thinks they are taking advantage of her, and treats her like a sister. It’s weird that a guy would think hes taking advantage of someone who should be perfectly capable to think for themselves.
I understand your points about D/E relationship. Although I support Stefan, one thing I wish he would do was step up, let loose, and be a little daring. I guess he lost all those qualities over time or just shut them out because of his lifestyle. If he could grow a backbone, instead of bowing at Elena’s feet, I think it would be more interesting. But I still want him with Elena, he’s better for in my opinion — as a boyfriend and best friend. He will always be there for her and won’t let her down as I think Damon sometimes does. I also love Damon…so he’ll be with me, I’ll take him anyday;-)
I understand all points of view for D/E. But I still stronly support Bonnie. She is definatly annoying and whiney at parts, but I still like her. I would never ever find anything in me that would hate her- dislike a little maybe but never hate. I do so wish that LJ Smith would make her grow up, she would be so much stronger and would stand a much better chance with Damon if she just grew up even a little. The only reason why I think- well the only couple of reasons why I think- Damon and Elena realationship wouldn’t work is because Damon lets her down too many times and LJ Smith would never break up Stefan and Elena. If Stefan died, Elena would rip her heart out. she would be crying 24/7. Sure Damon might be a shoulder to cry on, but she would never replace Stefan, and don’t get me wrong, I love Damon so much more than Stefan, but I support Stefan in this one.
I totally agree with Addie about the Bonnie situation 100%! I also kinda agree with her on the Damon/Elena relationship. There is no doubt in my mind that Elena would rip her heart out if Stefan died. I think its because I love Damon’s character so much that I want Delena together. I will be happy either way whether Elena chooses Stefan or Damon, cuz I can see the pros and cons for both characters. and obviousely both sets of characters have chemistry even if it is in different ways.
wow!some really good thoughts,every1….
@Tishi. I so totally agree with you, and it’s something I hadn’t thought about before…….another reason why Damon and Elena should be together. As you say, up until Elena met Damon she had every boy in her life totally whipped, including Stefan. Damon is the only guy she has ever known that has been any real challenge for her strong personality.
I have been thinking about the “secret” theory again and I am even more convinced that the secret is her virginity and the tears the tears of a “pure maiden” as in pages 53/54. Another thought along those lines, turning to the motel room scene is that when Damon asks her is she is scared of him she says yes. What is she scared of??? Not of him kissing her because she asks him why he didn’t ask for a kiss. Not of him taking blood because they have shared blood before and she knows that he wont kill or hurt her. Sooooooooooo, I think she is scared because she knows she can’t fight the attraction she feels for Damon anymore and that she is about to “surrender” (as it says in that scene) her virginty. The part about he knows I know he knows is a bit more tricky but I think it goes back to the aura and the car ride scene where she is afraid to touch him because she knows he is attracted to her aura and Damon says to himself that he is glad she knows enough to keep her distance. I so hope they get together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwAEqyAmLeE
Title: damon and elena scenes vampire diaries music video
Me again, for all the other DE fans like myself I thought I would add this AWESOME utube vid of DE scenes, which also has some really great background music to it….practically had me in tears.
Could part of the riddle from when she is in the bathtub be building up to a possible pregnancy between DE? this whole “germinate” thing? After all, if it is true that Damon becomes a human in the last book then I believe it is inevitable that they marry as two humans and……..baby?????
Also, another reason why she is afraid of Damon in this motel room scene is, I think, because she knows she can’t control and manipulate Damon the way she has with other guys. So, when you lose or relinquish control over a situation and are not sure where it’s going or what will happen, that would be another reason for being somewhat afraid.
@vampire Ohh?? thats right!!! I didn\’t notice that!
what does he know? omg!! i\’m so dying to know! xD ahhh ahhhh ahhh ahhhh ahhh i asked my sister to guess with me, but she said hmm maybe she is a vampire too. Well, i don\’t know!!! I really can\’t wait!
Delena,
I AGREE with everything you wrote, I think you hit the nail on the head!
OMG! About the pregnancy….wow…could be. A strong possibility given some spoilers we know about the end of the book and the next one coming out.(What you said about Damon)
Stay around Delena, I love your thoughts :O))
@delena, i never thought about the pregnancy thing but you could have a point. Although I don’t think that Elena and Damon will have sex and if they do I will be shocked. I mean if thats not cheating, I don’t know what is lol! If vampires could have sex or if Elena was going to have sex with anybody I would think it would be Stefan. And to betray him to that extend just doesn’t seem like Elena to me. I mean it could happen, we are all humans and know human desires, and Damon goes hard to resist. But i would loose ALL respect for Elena if she betrayed Stefan in that way. I mean some people already think she’s going to far emotionally and maybe phyiscally with Damon, considering she’s in a “committed” relationship with Stefan. But I think we are all in agreement that Stefan, because he is WHIPPED!, would take her back no matter what. But what if Damon and Elena DID have sex, and Stefan wouldn’t take her back…now that would be a twist.
@jessie & addie, I agree that Elena would probably kill herself if anything happend to Stefan. But with recent events, and our speculation of what might happen with Elena and Damon, how would she really feel? Would it be a relief that she didn’t have to hurt him with her decision to choose Damon, if in fact she did? I’m starting to question Elena’s commitment to Stefan after really thinking and even posting this comment. If she’s willing to go even further than a kiss with Damon, which I already think is to far since a kiss means a lot for her and espesically between her and Stefan, then theres ovbiously doubt about Stefan and she no longer respects there relationship. We all know a kiss to a vampire is bigger deal since it’s not a desire they really ever have.
Honestly I have doubts about either relationship Elena chooses. As someone pointed out Damon always lets her down. And as I’ve said before when Damon does good deeds it’s usually because he’s making up for something bad he did. It’s always like an eye for an eye with him, we rarely see him doing good or being nice just because—but we always see Stefan doing that and lets be honest sometimes it gets boring!!! I don’t see them lasting in a relationship. I just don’t think Elena is on his level, yes they both have strong personalities and challange each other. But they also clash. Stefan on the other hand is pretty much always the same, and resistent. He never challanges Elena, in fear that he will loose her. I feel Stefan is so afraid to loose Elena that he doesn’t ever walk on the wild side, or just let loose a little. It’s okay to be reserved but it must just build up inside him, I imagine it’s a hard thing to control. If Stefan could trust Elena, which he can’t with Damon around…no matter what he says, he could unravel and remember some of the little fun things that make a difference.
I just don’t think Bonnie and Damon will happend. But if it does, I guess I’m fine with it. Once Bonnie grows up she can try to be on the same level as Damon. But truthfully, I don’t think Bonnie has anything to offer Damon, Matt, or Stefan. All of them play babysitter to her…and really would you wanna date a child? That’s how they all look at her, don’t let their protective nature be mistaken for love or even lust, she’s more of a sister, someone they have to look out for. Bonnie is always slowing the friends down, which makes for an interesting book, since they always have to wait up for her. She’s vaulable to the friends because of her premonitions and obviously because they love her as a friend, but I don’t think she is on the same level as the rest of the group. I don’t see any evidence to suggest a relationship between Bonnie and Damon. The only reason I think it might happen is to place Damon with someone if he doesn’t end up with Elena.
@delena, i never thought about the pregnancy thing but you could have a point. Although I don\’t think that Elena and Damon will have sex and if they do I will be shocked. I mean if thats not cheating, I don\’t know what is lol! If vampires could have sex or if Elena was going to have sex with anybody I would think it would be Stefan. And to betray him to that extend just doesn\’t seem like Elena to me. I mean it could happen, we are all humans and know human desires, and Damon goes hard to resist. But i would loose ALL respect for Elena if she betrayed Stefan in that way. I mean some people already think she\’s going to far emotionally and maybe phyiscally with Damon, considering she\’s in a \”committed\” relationship with Stefan. But I think we are all in agreement that Stefan, because he is WHIPPED!, would take her back no matter what. But what if Damon and Elena DID have sex, and Stefan wouldn\’t take her back…now that would be a twist.
@jessie & addie, I agree that Elena would probably kill herself if anything happend to Stefan. But with recent events, and our speculation of what might happen with Elena and Damon, how would she really feel? Would it be a relief that she didn\’t have to hurt him with her decision to choose Damon, if in fact she did? I\’m starting to question Elena\’s commitment to Stefan after really thinking and even posting this comment. If she\’s willing to go even further than a kiss with Damon, which I already think is to far since a kiss means a lot for her and espesically between her and Stefan, then theres ovbiously doubt about Stefan and she no longer respects there relationship. We all know a kiss to a vampire is bigger deal since it\’s not a desire they really ever have.
Honestly I have doubts about either relationship Elena chooses. As someone pointed out Damon always lets her down. And as I\’ve said before when Damon does good deeds it\’s usually because he\’s making up for something bad he did. It\’s always like an eye for an eye with him, we rarely see him doing good or being nice just because—but we always see Stefan doing that and lets be honest sometimes it gets boring!!! I don\’t see them lasting in a relationship. I just don\’t think Elena is on his level, yes they both have strong personalities and challange each other. But they also clash. Stefan on the other hand is pretty much always the same, and resistent. He never challanges Elena, in fear that he will loose her. I feel Stefan is so afraid to loose Elena that he doesn\’t ever walk on the wild side, or just let loose a little. It\’s okay to be reserved but it must just build up inside him, I imagine it\’s a hard thing to control. If Stefan could trust Elena, which he can\’t with Damon around…no matter what he says, he could unravel and remember some of the little fun things that make a difference.
I just don\’t think Bonnie and Damon will happend. But if it does, I guess I\’m fine with it. Once Bonnie grows up she can try to be on the same level as Damon. But truthfully, I don\’t think Bonnie has anything to offer Damon, Matt, or Stefan. All of them play babysitter to her…and really would you wanna date a child? That\’s how they all look at her, don\’t let their protective nature be mistaken for love or even lust, she\’s more of a sister, someone they have to look out for. Bonnie is always slowing the friends down, which makes for an interesting book, since they always have to wait up for her. She\’s vaulable to the friends because of her premonitions and obviously because they love her as a friend, but I don\’t think she is on the same level as the rest of the group. I don\’t see any evidence to suggest a relationship between Bonnie and Damon. The only reason I think it might happen is to place Damon with someone if he doesn\’t end up with Elena.
Great videos, but Ive watched SOO many of them that all started to look quite the same unfortunately… but I still download them
This one stuck with me, Its SO Damon and a bit creepy but a great atmosphere!
let me know what u think!
@ ashleylovez could you stop writing LETTERS?? ![]()
I mean, i want to read everything you say but that ’s just too long!!
just kidding!
but come on..
i didn’t mean to send that so many types! every time i tried it kept saying it wouldn’t work. oopps.
I like to get all my stuff out in one rather than write 15 short comments. it’s easier that way for me. because i always forget what i’m going to say if i don’t say it all at once.
OMG,
i think i know the secret
i cant wait
if there is anymore information plez
contact me
@Team damon,LOLOLOLOL!!!that’s my fave 1 as well….
@ashleylovez
it’s fine i was just kidding! it’s just that i love to read all of your comments (of everyone) and i’ve noticed that some girls REALLY love their keyboards…and then i just give up!
but i’ll try harder in the future LOL!
@fiama
so what is the secret?? spill it out will you??
cause we’ve had all sorts of possibilities..
and i mean literally ALL of them!
maybe u came up with something new???
Fiama, What do you think the secret is?
* “Interesting things happen in the dark…sometimes.”
* “St. Stefan in a pique? Imagine.”
* “Brothers should be close.”
* “I never lie about anything important. Or do I mean unimportant?”
* “You never learn, do you, little brother?”
* “I can waken things inside you that have been sleeping all your life.”
* “Mind if I have a bite?”
* “The name is Salvatore. As in savior.”
* Elena: “I’d rather cut my throat.” Damon: “An intriguing thought. But I can do it so much more enjoyably.”
* “Thank you for having me for dinner. I hope I can return the favor sometime.”
* “I ran out of mercy for you a century ago.”
* “Maybe I don’t like things easy. Put it this way, dear brother: if anyone’s going to have the satisfaction of killing you, it will be me. No one else. I plan to take care of the job personally. And it’s something I’m very good at; I promise you.”
* “Very touching. Do you want me to imitate a violin?”
* “Appearances can be deceiving.”
* “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn about anyone else.”
* “And I agree. In fact, we all seem to be in a frenzy of pure agreement.”
* Elena: “But I don’t have any better ideas. Do you?” Damon: “What, do you mean about other ways to spend the time? Yes, I do. Do you want me to tell you about them?”
* “I usually do remember girls I leave wandering in their slips.”
* Damon: “Katherine?” Katherine: “Yes, Damon?” Damon: “Go to hell.”
* “I am never caught, little brother.”
* “Little brother, the world is full of what you call ‘wrong.’ Why not relax and join the winning side? It’s much more fun, I assure you.”
* Matt: “Why don’t you pick on somebody your own size then?” Damon: “Like you?” Matt: “You can try.” Damon: “I can do more than try, Matt.”
* “I’ll try to put this in a way you can understand. You don’t want to mess with me, Matt. I am more dangerous than you can possibly imagine.”
* “Get away from my brother. Before I tear your heart out.”
* Stefan: “Don’t throw your life away. Don’t throw their lives away.” Damon: “I don’t give a damn about their lives.”
# “Interesting things happen in the dark…sometimes.”
# “St. Stefan in a pique? Imagine.”
# “Brothers should be close.”
# “I never lie about anything important. Or do I mean unimportant?”
# “You never learn, do you, little brother?”
# “I can waken things inside you that have been sleeping all your life.”
# “Mind if I have a bite?”
# “The name is Salvatore. As in savior.”
# Elena: “I’d rather cut my throat.” Damon: “An intriguing thought. But I can do it so much more enjoyably.”
# “Thank you for having me for dinner. I hope I can return the favor sometime.”
# “I ran out of mercy for you a century ago.”
# “Maybe I don’t like things easy. Put it this way, dear brother: if anyone’s going to have the satisfaction of killing you, it will be me. No one else. I plan to take care of the job personally. And it’s something I’m very good at; I promise you.”
# “Very touching. Do you want me to imitate a violin?”
# “Appearances can be deceiving.”
# “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn about anyone else.”
# “And I agree. In fact, we all seem to be in a frenzy of pure agreement.”
# Elena: “But I don’t have any better ideas. Do you?” Damon: “What, do you mean about other ways to spend the time? Yes, I do. Do you want me to tell you about them?”
# “I usually do remember girls I leave wandering in their slips.”
# Damon: “Katherine?” Katherine: “Yes, Damon?” Damon: “Go to hell.”
# “I am never caught, little brother.”
# “Little brother, the world is full of what you call ‘wrong.’ Why not relax and join the winning side? It’s much more fun, I assure you.”
# Matt: “Why don’t you pick on somebody your own size then?” Damon: “Like you?” Matt: “You can try.” Damon: “I can do more than try, Matt.”
# “I’ll try to put this in a way you can understand. You don’t want to mess with me, Matt. I am more dangerous than you can possibly imagine.”
# “Get away from my brother. Before I tear your heart out.”
oops sorry for the double post of Damon quotes
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@sara, lol i know it’s annoying too read really long ones but thats why i put a space in between, lol.. So it looks like seperate posts!! Like I said before I seriously will forget what I’m about to say if I don’t write it down. Sometimes when I’m reading the comments on here and find things I want to comment on I write it down somewhere so I don’t forget, lol.
@Delena: am I missing something? But I don’t think it ever mentioned Damon turning human at all. So how could they have sex? Also, I have a feeling that Elena would never do that to Stefan; dead or alive. As someone said before, If Elena betrayed Stefan in that sense I would loose all respect for her.
@Ashleylovez: I too agree that if Bonnie were to grow up she would be on the same level as everyone else. I really do want her to grow up! I like Bonnie, but I do not exactly appreciate her child-like features. She is most certainly slowing everyone down but her psychic abilities are irreplaceable. And at times she can be very brave and useful. She is the only character that needs to mature and that is one of the reasons she should be with Damon. Bonnie is so fragile and delicate. She needs a strong and smokin’ hot vampire to keep her going, and with the whole ‘dying young’ thing, that is another reason why Damon could help her. I think they both made their thoughts toward each other pretty clear in Nightfall. They are still unpredictable though; keep the twist that LJ promised in mind. It might be something right under our noses. we need to be prepared. It could be anything! It could be as simple as Alaric dies on one of his quests and Merideth and Bonnie pretty much switch places; Bonnie becomes the strong, mature one, and Merideth becomes the whyning, weeping child.
!!SPOILER SPOILER!!
Addie,
Amazon posted the synops of Midnight. Here it is below, this is the book after Shadow Souls http://forums.vampire-diaries.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=562
I WARN, if you do NOT want to know how Shadow Souls ends and what happens DO NOT go to the link.
!!!SPOILERS SPOILERS!!!
Addie, this is how we know what is going to happen. Amazon posted the synops of Midnight the book after Shadow Souls.
Click on the link to read it..but be warned many I dont think want to know!
I’m sorry to all the people saying that Bonnie ending up with Damon would be a “surprise ending”. Come on people that would just play out all picture perfect and too fairytail sappy! Then it would be Elaina and Stefan with Damon and Bonnie. BORING. now what would surprise me is if she killed off Stefan or Bonnie. now that’s just my opinion and i’m only saying it because i am sick of hearing Bonnie and Damon as a surprise ending. It’s not a surprise ending it’s the easy way out ending. the sickening and roll your eyes ending.
Elena is afraid of her feelings for Damon and tries to hide them away deep within herself. I think her subconscious mind is trying to bring these feelings out in to the forefront with Damon showing up in her dreams, like the one in the bathtub at the motel. Elena has been in love with Damon from the first time they met, and him for her. But, because he is such a badass, and even glories in being such a badass, she doesn’t know if he will ever change his ways, and loving him is very scary. It is much safer for her to love the good guy, Stefan. I think in this teaser she is going to surrender to her feelings for Damon, (let’s hope, it’s about time for some action.)
On further thought, there are actually two statements that Damon makes in this teaser. One. He knows what she is (IMO a pure maiden/virgin) and Two. That he knows her secret (IMO that she is in love with him, perhaps a secret that she even keeps from herself.) It’s certainly a secret she has been hard at work to keep from Damon but I think the jig is up now in the tears. Damon is probably thinking: O.K. then, I am SO all over this situation.
@ Addie Would She really be betraying Stefan, assuming that she is a virgin and that she and Stefan never went beyond kissing and sharing blood? Is she re-engaged to Stefan? If she loses her virginity to Damon wouuld she then have more of a tie / commitment to him? IDK. About Damon being mortal at the end of Midnite. That is the spoiler from Amazon.
@delena, she would absolutely be betraying Stefan if her and Damon had sex. I mentioned this above in my really long post lol. Even her and Damon kissing is kind of taking it to far. But of course, Stefan would never do anything. Elena and Stefan are suppost to be in a serious committed relationship, atleast they were before he went missing, so I assume they still are boyfriend/girlfriend. In my opinion it’s going to far, and most definitely betraying him. Human or not when your in a relationship sex is cheating, and to some, like me, kissing is cheating—spoiler or no spoiler, at this point in the book Elena has no idea Damon might end up human so it’s cheating. And even if she did know, and Stefan was not yet rescued or they were still together, it would definitely still be cheating.
How could Damon be able to tell what she is from her tears? Maybe taste but furthermore any speculation on how he could tell her feelings thru her tears? If that was infact it gets to that point and he can tell things from her tears.
I agree w/ @christine, about how predictable Bonnie and Damon would be. It’s would be such a cop out by LJS in my opinion.It’s just an easy way out. I want Stefan and Elena too be together, but if he died, I would be okay with Damon. I absolutely love Damon but I don’t know who I would want him with, since I don’t agree with him and Elena as a couple. I bet this twist is gonna be predictable but I hope it’s not!!! I want it to throw everyone off, even the d/e fans.
I agree with your thoughts Delena!! Keep them coming :O)
If the Amazon spoiler is correct and Damon does indeed get to be mortal then it is obvious that he HAS to end up with Elena, or at least some other human (but I ship DE.)
If Elena were to end up with Stefan, at some point she would become an old lady and Stefan would still be the young and handsome 17 year old high school guy, unless he changes her back to being a vamp, which I don’t see happening. This was a big issue in the Twilight series, (sorry to bring it up guys,) and why Bella was so persistent to Edward that he change her, because she didn’t want to grow older.
SPOILER! SPOILER!
Delena,
That was my thought when I heard about Damon. At least that was the thought I was hoping would happen.
I do feel sorry for Stefan though, because that is what he wanted. Damon loves being a Vampire and Stefan doesnt. Although good for LJ Smith to throw a wrench in that. We all would have expected Stefan!
I don’t think Bonnie and Damon is a good idea whatsoever. I’m a supporter of Delena.
I think Bonnie and Stefan should get together, and Damon and Elena. THAT would be a surprise ending.
I love the books, and the show, but I hate when authors make two people fall in love so quickly and irrevocably. It rules out all future drama, and say that the majority of people hate the one of the people in the couple (a.k.a Stefan), it makes people lose interest.
Damon and Elena belong together.
Oh, and I forgot to add:
Remember in the first book, when Elena did the marriage spell? How the person who came in would be her future husband? And how Damon was the person to walk in?
It’s called foreshadowing. L.J was giving us a MAJOR hint there.
Missy, Can you PLEASE tell me if I’m missing something? How the heck can Damon turn to a mortal?! Is it like a soul for a soul kind of thing? Damon… mortal?! How can this happen?! I thought he would stay vampire! What’s gonna happen now?! Isn’t Damon being a VAMPIRE a huge part of the story and protection over Fell’s Chuch?! Without the tough-bad-boy-vampire, we just lost, like, 3/4 of our defences! Stefan’s a vamp but he is not nearly as strong as Damon WAS when he WAS a VAMPIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is going to have PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok no vampire can resist her as in sex! more like a rape thing than a relationship thing as far as i can tell…
and if Damon doesn’t end up with Elena, he should be with Meredith… now THAT would be interesting!
and Bonnie should just go away i don’t care weather she lives or dies she should just leave!
A new Vamp Diaries site, that was on Harper teen
Addie,
Go to the link I posted a few posts up. It says why..
I think this is a big deal for her books because we were not expecting it..and I hate expecting things in books.
@ Team Damon
I think the outcome is going to be really tragic for Damon, not only to lose Elena to Damon IMO, but to also see Damon get the mortality that he has always yearned for. IMO Stefan will have to die somehow because I don’t think he can face eternity with all of this sadness.
Then again, he may have bought some of it on himself by always calling Elena “lovely little love.” I swear if I have to read that one more time I am barfing up a kidney. Elena needs a real man like Damon.
Delena,
I hope you stay around, Id love to hear your comments as you read Shadow Souls.
I thought I was the only one ANNOYED with his Lovely little love comments. I think I rolled my eyes so much during him saying those words they are almost fixed to the back of my head ;o)
I agree, Elena needs someone who challenges her and vise versa for Damon. Stefan and Elena is what we see in all the romantic books. In real life though its not that easy and it would be boring if it was. Damon and Elena are more real. I would love some of Damons fierce passion :O)))
OMG i hating those damn “lovely little love” and Damon calling Bonnie a “little baby bird” or whatever. It was just weird, i wanted to throw up! It’s like the characters we like (from the original) series would have never said that! Not even Stefan, he would never call Elena pet names in front of her friends.
We need to find a new place to comment once Shadow Souls comes out. Any ideas?
on Facebook? if u guys have it? i could make a group so we can comment!
and i think that it will seriously ground Damon if he becomes human!!
he won’t be that hotheaded as he was..
it will make him more humble in a way, and nicer i think because he won’t have superpowers to back him now..
and i hope l.j. kills off Stefan…. he’s among the most annoying characters I’ve ever read about..
but the first place is of course reserved for Edward…
again triond messing with me……won’t post my comments
grrrrr….
Here is a place for when Shadow Souls comes out, or now
can we comment on facebook? if u all have one?
i could make a group so we can all comment..
i mentioned it in my previous post but apparently it didn’t post it..
damn triond…
@Missy,
I too hate books where it always follows the same pattern; Boy meets girl, they fall in love; they cant be together; they secretly spend time together; someone finds out; they find a way to convince the peoplo of their innocence; the people let them be together; they’re happy again! Uggh! Too predictable! I guess I was in shock when I posted last. LJ did a good job at surprising me. ‘Cause, be honest, people! Who here expected DAMON to turn human to free Stefan. I mean, we all knew there was gonna be some clever way that they freed Stefan from the Dark Dimensions, but I bet none of us expected THIS. Very clever I guess.
I have facebook and would be cool with that. But i’m not sure what my facebook link is. How sad is that!? Well it makes sense since I never get on there.
@Delena,u crack me up,big time,LOLOLOLOLOL….!!!! i thought i was the only 1 barfing at that(hahahahahaha)…i prefer damon’s “darling” to that anytime,lol…
@ashleylovez
ok i thought facebook was popular everywhere ![]()
well fine if u don’t remeber your username and password..
then we’ll just have to find some other way to communicate!
i saw @team damon posted some blog link..
but, can’t we just stay here? or will they erase this “forum” once the shadow souls is out??
Very nice Blog Team Damon :O) I can go there or if this is up stay here. I just don’t want to have to sign up for anything.
Team Damon, did you do that blog? Is that the Black Magic rose?
@ Team Damon
I have bookmarked the link you gave in case we get shut down from here. Thanks for finding it.
I had a thought about Damon’s possible upcoming mortality. I really don’t think he is going to have a problem with it, but perhaps only IF he gets to spend his mortality with Elena. He can make-out with Elena like a bunny rabbit, instead of eating bunny rabbits, and they can live like any other human couple.
In the Harper Teen teaser, on page 95, it reads:
“Worst of all was the fact that charming girls, deceiving girls, was practically Damon’s own raison d’etre (translation: reason for living / reason for being.) It was certainly the only reason he’d been ABLE to keep on living for the past half millenium. And yet he knew that he must not even start the process with this one girl who, to him, was the jewel lying on the dungheap of humanity.”
The two brothers reacted very differently to being turned. Damon has been trying to make the best of it, in his own dark ways and Stefan has been, basically IMO, spending the past 500 years wallowing in self pity about it.
I still feel very sad for Stefan though if this is the ultimate outcome. To not only lose Elena but also see Damon get to be with her as a human, (get married and probably have a baby or two or three IMO, starting to fantasize here,) is just going to be gut wrenching.
I have no idea how LJS is going to produce the happy ending around this.
If any of you want 2 be my friend on facebook my name on there is Tori Caitlyn Ellis. Can’t wait til March 16
Andrea, Yes and Yes that is a Black Magic rose. Just like the one Damon gives Elena in Shadow Souls
Delena,
I feel sorry for Stefan too and agree that I don’t know how it can be a happy ending. I did read an interview though last night that she was planning on writing MORE Vampire Diaries books after Midnight. If she does I cant imagine either of the guys not being in the books. So killing Stefan doesnt seem possible..which would be the only way I see him being happy without Elena. If you remember when Elena was turned Vampire and was trying to kill him he gave up to let her do it.
I think he will die if thats what Elena wants and is happy.
Is there a link w/ a user name to your facebook as there is on myspace? My is under Ashley Eslin.
ok i made the group on facebook!
my name is Sara Lovric
so if you\’d like to join this group send me requests and I\’ll send the invitations!
or if it\’s possible, write Vampire diaries Shadow souls on facebook search and join the group if u don’t want to add me or something like that!
anyway, hope I’ve helped!
ok I added u @ashleylovez and @toricaitlyn!
it’s just that i can’t send invitations unless you’re my friends!
so do accept please!
OMD, Team Damon! Where did you see that interview?! I really wanna check it out! If it is true that she she will write more books after Midnight, I would be the happiest camper in the whole woods (or world)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will you please post the link? I really want to see that!
Here you go Addie
http://teenscenemag.com/bythebook/?p=317
BTB: Are you currently working on any new projects?
Smith: Oh, yes! I’ve just begun the third book in the new Vampire Diaries Trilogy, titled Midnight. The second book in this trilogy, Shadow Souls, will be out in March, 2010. And then I am working on the last book in the Night World series, titled Strange Fate, which doesn’t have a firm publication date yet. In addition I have on the back burner a book called Brionwy’s Lullabies, which is set in a world that is ruled by dragons. And of course I hope to write some more Vampire Diaries books as well!
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, Team Damon! I am really excited! I love the Vampire Diaries, and I never want it to end!
I think that the surprise twist at the end might be that BOTH Damon and Stefan are changed to humans. Why would Stefan’s captors release him as a human knowing that his brother (or another vampire friend,) could just change him right back again as soon as they are released.
It would leave a bigger dilema for Elena then to make the choice between the two brothers, if both were on a more equal footing as humans and also a real cliffhanger for the next book? Just a thought.
delena, good thought. i thought about that also but thought maybe just blew it off. It would definitely make for a better twist and a more even competetion between the brothers.
Delena, That would be a great twist. However in the book description for the book after Shadow Souls, it says the consequence was that Stefans brother Damon is now Mortal.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Return-Midnight-Vampire-Diaries/dp/144490065X/
Twenty Three Days until Shadow Souls comes out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m counting down the days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! I havent been on here in like 2 days and there are already a ton of comments! haha!
@Delena- Wow! You might be on to something with the baby idea! I know that in the show, Damon tells Elena that vampires cannot procreate but I dont think it has ever said anything about that in the books, so that could definately be a possiblility even before he turns mortal. That would definately be a huge twist! We know that vampires normally cant have sex, but there is something about Elena\’s aura that makes them able to, so how do we know that vampires cant procreate in the book? As far as we know, nothing like this has ever happened before and this situation is totally unique, so that is definately a possibility I think!
@ashleylovez- I agree with you that by Elena having sex or even kissing Damon is considered cheating and I know Stefan would be crushed if he ever found out about it. Especially since they are always competing against each other. Just when Stefan finally gets something good in his life (Elena), Damon takes her away from him! I really dont want her to do that to Stefan, but I think her betrayal would definately add more to the story. We all seem to be in agreement that Stefan is whipped and would probably forgive her for it, but like you said, what if he didnt take her back? I think that whole storyline would be pretty interesting to read.
ashelylovez, you also posted a great question! ….. \”Would it be a relief that she didn’t have to hurt him with her decision to choose Damon, if in fact she did?\” (pertaining to the idea of Stefan dying and how Elena would feel). I think a part of her would be relieved that she wouldnt have to tell him her decision and hurt him because she obviousely loves him very deeply even if she wound up choosing Damon, she cannot deny her feelings for him, but I think the biggest portion of her feelings would be grief over the loss of Stefan. L.J. said in an interview that this trilogy is about Elena falling in love with Damon to the same extent that she fell in love with Stefan in the previous books. So, at this point, I think if either one of them were to die, Elena would be heartbroken either way, no matter which brother she chose. I think that would be the major emotion playing out.
OMG!!! I totally hate it when Stefan calls Elena his \”lovely little love\” too!!!! It got soooooo annoying!!!! Its fine, calling her just \’love\’ but does he seriousely need all that other stuff!!?!? ugh!
I have a facebook and will most definately look up the group!!! Thanks Sara23!!!! =D
i realy like hearing all of ur guys comments..it sorta makes the waite for the book barable lol..and i love all of ideas of what everyone thinks…Im TEAM DAMON all the way and have been from the start
Team Damon on Feb 21, 2010
Delena, That would be a great twist. However in the book description for the book after Shadow Souls, it says the consequence was that Stefans brother Damon is now Mortal.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Return-Midnight-Vampire-Diaries/dp/144490065X/
WHAT!!???!! WOW WOW WOW
yes!by waiting 4 the book to come out and the series 2 start again,this is rather enjoyable,really awesome comments!!!
omg i loved that im all 4 damon an elena!! i love ur comments u guys!! i fink damon an stefan shud fight 4 elena that wud b funny!! xxxxxxxx
omg i loved that im all 4 damon an elena!! i love ur comments u guys!! i fink damon an stefan shud fight 4 elena that wud b funny!! xxxxxxxx
hey
im in england an the release date over here is always spazed so it will probly cum out in america 1st so if possible cd 1 of u lovely peeps tell me wat happens coz i luuvvvv spoilers!!!!!!! thanks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
hey
im in england an the release date over here is always spazed so it will probly cum out in america 1st so if possible cd 1 of u lovely peeps tell me wat happens coz i luuvvvv spoilers!!!!!!! thanks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
heyy! succesful joining of tori caitlyn and ashlelovez!! anyone else wants to join the club?? it’s on facebook Vampire diaries shadow souls!!
and yes for all of us who will be depraved of this book i hope SOMEONE will upload it on the internet!!!
I have heard that a lot of people say they want Matt and Bonnie to be together. I can’t say that I blame them. Matt and Bonnie do like each other. I can’t say they don’t, I’m not stupid! But I do not want them to be together! First, how could I want them to be together when I want Damon/Bonnie? Second, MATT IS A LOVE-SICK, CLINGY SHOW OFF! WHY CAN’T HE SEE THAT ELENA DOESN’T LOVE HIM BACK AND GET ON WITH HIS LIFE?! HE JUST URCKS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS SO BIG HEADED TO ME! I DON’T GET HIM! HE IS A WIERDO AND I’VE HATED HIM FROM THE START! ELENA DOESN’T WANT HIM BACK! IS HE BLIND?! WHY CAN’T HE SEE THAT?! NOBODY LIKES HIM! WHY CAN’T HE GO AWAY?! (I take that back (NO I DON’T) his friends like him (BUT I CERTAINLY DON’T)
Did everyone see theres a trailer for Shadow Souls? HAHAHAHA I cant believe it
OMG!!! I can’t wait for the released of the book which is actually on March,16,2010..I have read all the books && love the show.
I don’t know what the secret is but I sure can’t wait to find out.
Damon is adorable with elena but I love stefan better with her.
Stefan && Elena
@Missy.LOL!!!what next???
Taznim,
I dont know but if anything is possible Id go for a Damon look alike delivering my book ;o)
I joined the group on facebook too!!!! My name is jessica stoops on there just so you know! lol
a Damon look alike delivering Shadow Souls???? Count me in!!!! LOL
Me too!
haha the dramatic voice on the book preview was hilarious. I dunno why but that voice was like creeping/funny.
I personally loved the first 8 chapters. Of course I am a huge Damon/Elena supporter. I definitely think Elena IS a virgin. I think she doesn’t think herself as Pure because she dated alot of guys she admitted she toyed with them.
The bath tub dream has me stumped it seems like a supressed memory to me because she keeps saying this is ‘familiar’ I ‘know’ this. This meant love. Plus the argument she heard as she was floating down. We will see but she also said something about it being familiar when she’s flying with Damon.
I know alot of people keep asking about Damon flying but Damon could fly in the last book Nightfall. He’s flying while he’s carrying Bonnie from the car.
I am for a Bonnie/Matt hook up and after reading those 8 chapters didn’t seem like Damon was giving Bonnie a second thought when he mentioned her at all in his thought it was in passing. And Bonnie was ready to rip Caroline a new one over Matt, not to mention Matt seemed to be done with Elena after the rose incident with Damon. So IMO that’s leading to a Matt and Bonnie relationship, unless something drastic changes. Especially after Damon’s thoughts are pretty specific that he wants Elena, Loves Elena, thinks she the jewel on top the dungpile,most precious thing to him in the world. I mean come on!
And I believe Damon was in love with Elena before she got the aura. Stefan even tells Elena in her diary in Nightfall that Damon would never hurt her because he loves her.
I think Damon hasn’t had too many ppl in his life really care for him and give him the benefit of the doubt and Elena does that for him. Damon is callous sometimes because he’s protecting himself thats why he keeps that rock around his soul. He doesn’t want to get hurt. I mean when he started chipping away at it after saving Bonnie in Nightfall, what happened everyone but Elena turned on him, so he brought the wall back up. It’s just self protection.
I don’t have a thing against Stefan and I don’t want him miserable but I have loved Damon from the very first book even when he was an ‘A’ hole most of the time so now that I’m seeing his softer side and all the hurt that he’s obviously hiding I sooooooo hope he gets to have Elena in the end.
those first 8 chapters don’t seem to show any signs of Bonnie and Damon getting together. And I am Glad. I can’t stand the thought of them together. I’d rather see Matt and her together and actually thats where it seems to be heading. Bonnie sure was defensive of him with Caroline. And Matt seems to have finally gotten over Elena.
Hmm…do you think Stefan may actually die in the future by Damon’s hands? Damon could get possessed again or the two brothers could have an old-fashioned fight for Elena’s love or something…
LJ is big on foreshadowing (remember the first book where Katherine’s remains looked like ashes from the hearth (which they were) and smelled like burned fat (which was the actual smell) and were used as similies, and Damon always says he’ll be the one killing Stefan… so…?
I don’t know, though, it was just a thought that occurred to me while reading comments. I may be way off, but I thought it might be worth mentioning.
@Lily Well, i’ve always got this feeling that Stefan will die! but i hope thats not! But, u maybe right! :S
Jayla, I agree with everything you said. I am really excited to find out all the answers to what we have already read. I am not looking forward to the wait AFTER Shadow Souls though, I want to know now that her and Damon will be together. :O)
Lily, I have a feeling Stefan may die. I dont like that feeling because I think Damon AND Stefan make the books. Even though Damon is my favorite character..I couldnt imagine Stefan not being there too. On LJ Smith setting the stage, there was the dumsupper that Damon showed up too which was saying who Elena would marry. Now LJ Smith said the books didnt go how she intended them too. So who knows where she will go and what she will do now.
@Team Damon Do you know where I may find that interview about the books not going the way she wanted them?
LJ may kill Stefan at the end so Damon and Elena can be together…a bittersweet ending…?
OK what gave u all the idea that she’s gonna kill Stefan??
even though it’s my biggest wish cause i don’t like him at all, i really think that she wouldn’t go that far and kill the pure, good character..
it will be Damon perhaps by my assumptions as a form of his redemption..
but maybe she doesn’t need to kill anyone!?
maybe one of the malach will get in Stefan and Damon or someone else would have to kill him, because if that does happen they would make him go straight to finish off elena wouldn’t they??
Lily,
Here you go
L. J. Smith: I was given a call by some people who wanted a trilogy of vampire books written and they said that they wanted me, within nine months, to produce 3 books about vampires. So the idea was that there were two brothers who were both in love with the same girl: one good brother, one bad brother. And I kind of like the bad brother better, that’s Damon, and he’s one of my favorite characters to work with, so it didn’t come out exactly perhaps as it was intended, but it seems that people enjoy the effect, so I can’t complain.
http://theauthorhour.com/l-j-smith/
Sara,
LJ Said in an interview one of them will die. Given Damon is her favorite I cant imagine her killing him. This is no surprise though because if you think about it, she killed Elena in the third book. That was suppose to be the final book. So that shows shes not shy about killing main characters.
L. J. Smith: Shadow Souls is my favorite book, can I say that?
I just had a crazy idea last night reading Elena and Matt: First Date. You know at the end when the gypsy lady says Matt will end up with a half women half child? Well, lots of people think that the 1/2 person is Bonnie, but they’re missing the bigger picture. The gypsy lady also said in a weird way that Matt already knew the 1/2 person, therefore it couldn’t be Bonnie. He’d seen her before, but he didn’t really KNOW her. That is why he can’t be with Bonnie (yet another reason). Wouldn’t it be a twist if Matt ended up with Elena again? Anyone who said (though I would hate this happening) that Stefan might die might be on to something. The next shoulder to cry on might be Matt’s because she had already dated him and he would want to comfort her the most in her loss, so, I would actually be happy in a way. I would hate the “Stefan dies” part, but Damon wouldn’t have anyone, so he would go after Bonnie, and Matt would be taken, so Bonnie would go after Damon. Also, Damon being mortal now would relieve some tension, and it would be easier for them to get together. So it’s like a win-win! Matt wins Elena back, I get my B/D realationship! I’m happy! And what a twist it would be to have M/E. Almost nobody on this page thought of THAT!!!!!!!!!!
@Addie I dont think that will happen because elena is completely over matt. there is NOTHING there at all. i think that if stefan died, elena would go to damon, not necessarily for comfort, but to him because she loves him too. she doesn’t love matt. i also dont think bonnie actually likes damon that way. i think she would still be too scared of him, even if he was human. bonnie is scared of everything.
I know that Caroline is all messed up right now..as she is turning into a wherewolf, but couldnt she be the half woman?? Half wherewolf half human?? She is only mainly acting like this because she is possesed, so maybe its her who Matt ends up with.
@Addie you need to read that part more carefully. THe gypsy is referring to Elena when she says “you have found your lady love half woman half child(Elena would have been about 16 at the time) then she says ‘You have fallen under her spell’(present tense) nothing can tear you apart from her(nothing has so far) you will have a time of darkness in your heart(he has by losing her to Stefan and probably when she died) before you MOVE ON(hopefully to Bonnie).
@Eva the person for Matt can’t be Caroline because she probably stoped being a child when she was 13 (if you catch my drift)
I’m not saying I want elena and matt to be together, all I’m saying is that it would be a twist.
@Team Damon Thanks!
@sara23 I was reading some previous comments that were speculating about it and had the idea/question
Does anybody here wonder if Elena’s family might come into play again soon? It was like, “oh Elena’s family is really important” then, “oh whoops! That’s not what I meant, they are only in books one and two.” I hope Elena’s family will come back into the books. For some reason, I feel like they should be important and that they should be there.
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hey! i just found out that Ian said somewhere that Elena and Damon are going to kiss soon!
some say in season 2! i read it on the chat!!
Yaaay
@Addie Elena’s family can’t physically be in the book anymore, but i t is kinda strange how she never thinks about them… i guess when she died she must’ve forgotten them
SPOILER******DON’T READ IF YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW**
I got a spoiler from an australian readers about what the secret is. as many of you guessed it is indeed that Elena is a virgin. What a disapointment, I wish it was something more intense. The aussies book got released yesterday in paperback! So lucky! Theres some readers on vampire-diaries.net if you want to private message them. I thought the people who have been dying to know would enjoy, although i guess it is nothing we didn’t expect. I dont want anymore spoilers now till I get my hands on the damn book!!!!
Thank you Ashleylovz..and like you no more spoilers now! HAHA
Matt and Caroline dont end up together because in the return: midnight summary on LJ’s site said that Matt faces down Caroline.
GOOD!!!!!!!! I’ve always hated Caroline anyway. I mean I REALLY hate Matt, but not as much as I hate Caroline.
First of all, before I get into the meat of the matter let me just express a warm greeting to all of you!! Sooooooo…hello!!!
…Alright so on to business now…Ahem…
TEAM DAMON ALL THE WAY BABY!! WOOOT!!! XD
Seriously, who can deny the awesomeness that is…Damon? That bad boy charm is just irresistable on him. Besides, it’s high time this Salvatore got some real lovin in his life!!
Stefan is like the Twilight saga all over again (the typical Edward-type…even though VD came out first >_>). Stefan to me is depressing, annoying, waaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too sappy and ungrateful (I mean seriously, what has he done for Damon instead of whine at him and berate his so called “evil” brother who saves him not only once but twice and is about to save him once more by rescuing him from the Shi no shi). The sad part is that Stefan is so pathetic that he’ll probably fall to pieces if Damon and Elena hooked up. It’s took him like over 2 centuries to get over Katherine, so what do we expect will happen if DE happens? o_O
The SE relationship is sooooooo…blah!! Ugh…They are so unrealtistic and overly romantic that it gets kind of annoying after a while…I mean reading the first 60 or so pages of Nightfall was like torture with those 2 pining over each other o_O dear lord!!! And the “lovely little love” nickname? How whipped (and sappy) can you get o_O I almost pity him sometimes…lol. Besides, them ending up together would be way too easy. He needs to learn how to get an actual life and live a little. Him being referred to as a saint makes him sound overly perfect too. He also thinks that he can’t live without her because their love is soooooooo deep and that Damon is the evil incarnate…Sigh…Lastly, Stefan doesn’t NEED Elena, he NEEDS to get a life…LMAO =P
As for Damon…HE RULES…HANDS DOWN!!! He embraces his vampire side to the fullest so I think he’s gonna be pretty torn up when he becomes mortal. He and Elena has this kind of undeniable chemistry and their moments together are always exciting. She also admits that she can’t control him like other guys cough Stefan cough, which gives her quite a bit of a challenge and makes their relationship all the more complicated…AND INTERESTING!! It’s also implied that she is the only one who understands him
They (as in DE) really need each other actually, for her to learn that not everything in life is easy (and not everyone is what they see) and for him to learn that it’s ok to love and to let people inside your heart
Them together is like 1000 times more interesting than any SE scene any day. Those scenes literally light up the page.
Bonnie, IMO is just so whiny…I mean I rate her powers and all, being a witch is pretty awesome, but she’s just so immature for Damon. He basically sees her as a pet, I mean seriously, “my little bird”? -_- Who calls someone they like that much an animal? Anyhoo, she and Matt obviously have a mutual thing going on *wink wink* so I’m all up for that. However, they did foreshadow that Bonnie would die young so I’m not sure how that’s gonna work out >_>
Caroline needs to get lost =_= …permanently…All her evil/possessed/crazy persona is really getting to me now…o_O Then the baby mama drama…
For the show, the producer admitted that he’s an avid SE fan, so I would not expect a DE ending @ all (which totally sucks IMO, because Ian and Nina hooking up on TV would,,,be…HAWT!!!). According to him, SE are soulmates…sigh.
As for the Books, there’s been alot of DE foreshadowing, plus LJS having a softspot for Damon. Though it is beyond me why people keep referring to the supper where Elena perform the ritual to find her future hubby as “dumb”. Even though I’d love to use that as proof, I wonder if it actually counts becuase I have this nagging feeling that Damon was probably hanging outside just waiting to make an entrance o_O But then again…You have to be considering as vampire in order to let them inside your home…sooooooooo…those 2 points cancel out lol. What I also find kind of interesting is how Elena was about to kiss Damon the first time they met without even knowing who he was…THAT is what we call love (or passion) at first sight
Then when she finally did kiss him…She completely forgot about Stefan (for a very good while).
The reason she doesn’t exactly pursue Damon head on is because she feels guilty of betraying Stefan, not that I blame her on anything, but if you realize that you may actually love someone else would you ignore it and stay in a relationship that you may eventually grow out of and end up asking yourself “what if?” for the rest of your life? As for Stefab being her launchpad (her first), Damon is the fire that keeps her going (her next and last).
Now for my crack @ the secret…What’s the point of calling Elena “easy and a slut” if she was already a virgin? o_O That makes no sense to me…Then again, I also have no idea what you can sense from tears. IMO, I think he can taste her emotions. Since he says “I know what you are…”, he might realize that she’s just like him…that would be epic!! XD We do know that she is going to fall in love with him to the same extent that she loves Stefan…Maybe even more…Hmmm…I am really really really hoping for a Delena ending regardless!!!
One things for sure…I CANNOT WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON THIS BOOK!!! XD
PEACE!!!
First of all, before I get into the meat of the matter let me just express a warm greeting to all of you!! Sooooooo…hello!!!
…Alright so on to business now…Ahem…
TEAM DAMON ALL THE WAY BABY!! WOOOT!!! XD
Seriously, who can deny the awesomeness that is…Damon? That bad boy charm is just irresistable on him. Besides, it\’s high time this Salvatore got some real lovin in his life!!
Stefan is like the Twilight saga all over again (the typical Edward-type…even though VD came out first >_>). Stefan to me is depressing, annoying, waaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too sappy and ungrateful (I mean seriously, what has he done for Damon instead of whine at him and berate his so called \”evil\” brother who saves him not only once but twice and is about to save him once more by rescuing him from the Shi no shi). The sad part is that Stefan is so pathetic that he\’ll probably fall to pieces if Damon and Elena hooked up. It\’s took him like over 2 centuries to get over Katherine, so what do we expect will happen if DE happens? o_O
The SE relationship is sooooooo…blah!! Ugh…They are so unrealtistic and overly romantic that it gets kind of annoying after a while…I mean reading the first 60 or so pages of Nightfall was like torture with those 2 pining over each other o_O dear lord!!! And the \”lovely little love\” nickname? How whipped (and sappy) can you get o_O I almost pity him sometimes…lol. Besides, them ending up together would be way too easy. He needs to learn how to get an actual life and live a little. Him being referred to as a saint makes him sound overly perfect too. He also thinks that he can\’t live without her because their love is soooooooo deep and that Damon is the evil incarnate…Sigh…Lastly, Stefan doesn\’t NEED Elena, he NEEDS to get a life…LMAO =P
As for Damon…HE RULES…HANDS DOWN!!! He embraces his vampire side to the fullest so I think he\’s gonna be pretty torn up when he becomes mortal. He and Elena has this kind of undeniable chemistry and their moments together are always exciting. She also admits that she can\’t control him like other guys cough Stefan cough, which gives her quite a bit of a challenge and makes their relationship all the more complicated…AND INTERESTING!! It\’s also implied that she is the only one who understands him
They (as in DE) really need each other actually, for her to learn that not everything in life is easy (and not everyone is what they see) and for him to learn that it\’s ok to love and to let people inside your heart
Them together is like 1000 times more interesting than any SE scene any day. Those scenes literally light up the page.
Bonnie, IMO is just so whiny…I mean I rate her powers and all, being a witch is pretty awesome, but she\’s just so immature for Damon. He basically sees her as a pet, I mean seriously, \”my little bird\”? -_- Who calls someone they like that much an animal? Anyhoo, she and Matt obviously have a mutual thing going on *wink wink* so I\’m all up for that. However, they did foreshadow that Bonnie would die young so I\’m not sure how that\’s gonna work out >_>
Caroline needs to get lost =_= …permanently…All her evil/possessed/crazy persona is really getting to me now…o_O Then the baby mama drama…
For the show, the producer admitted that he\’s an avid SE fan, so I would not expect a DE ending @ all (which totally sucks IMO, because Ian and Nina hooking up on TV would,,,be…HAWT!!!). According to him, SE are soulmates…sigh.
As for the Books, there\’s been alot of DE foreshadowing, plus LJS having a softspot for Damon. Though it is beyond me why people keep referring to the supper where Elena perform the ritual to find her future hubby as \”dumb\”. Even though I\’d love to use that as proof, I wonder if it actually counts becuase I have this nagging feeling that Damon was probably hanging outside just waiting to make an entrance o_O But then again…You have to be considering as vampire in order to let them inside your home…sooooooooo…those 2 points cancel out lol. What I also find kind of interesting is how Elena was about to kiss Damon the first time they met without even knowing who he was…THAT is what we call love (or passion) at first sight
Then when she finally did kiss him…She completely forgot about Stefan (for a very good while).
The reason she doesn\’t exactly pursue Damon head on is because she feels guilty of betraying Stefan, not that I blame her on anything, but if you realize that you may actually love someone else would you ignore it and stay in a relationship that you may eventually grow out of and end up asking yourself \”what if?\” for the rest of your life? As for Stefab being her launchpad (her first), Damon is the fire that keeps her going (her next and last).
Now for my crack @ the secret…What\’s the point of calling Elena \”easy and a slut\” if she was already a virgin? o_O That makes no sense to me…Then again, I also have no idea what you can sense from tears. IMO, I think he can taste her emotions. Since he says \”I know what you are…\”, he might realize that she\’s just like him…that would be epic!! XD We do know that she is going to fall in love with him to the same extent that she loves Stefan…Maybe even more…Hmmm…I am really really really hoping for a Delena ending regardless!!!
One things for sure…I CANNOT WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON THIS BOOK!!! XD
PEACE!!!
TEAM DAMON ALL THE WAY BABY!! WOOOT!!! XD
Seriously, who can deny the awesomeness that is…Damon? That bad boy charm is just irresistable on him. Besides, it’s high time this Salvatore got some real lovin in his life!!
Stefan is like Twilight all over again (the typical Edward-type…even though VD came out first >_>). Stefan to me is depressing, annoying, waaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too sappy and ungrateful (I mean how many times has Damon saved him?). The sad part is that Stefan is so pathetic that he’ll probably fall to pieces if Damon and Elena hooked up. It\\\’s taken him like over 2 centuries to get over Katherine, so what do we expect if DE happens? o_O
The SE relationship is sooooooo…blah!! Ugh…They are so unrealtistic and overly romantic that it gets kind of annoying after a while…I mean reading the first 60 or so pages of Nightfall was like torture with those 2 pining over each other o_O And the \\\”lovely little love\\\” nickname? How whipped (and sappy) can you get o_O I almost pity him sometimes…lol. Besides, them ending up together would be way too easy. He needs to learn how to get an actual life and live a little. Him being referred to as a saint makes him sound overly perfect too. Stefan doesn\\\’t NEED Elena, he NEEDS to get a life…LMAO =P
As for Damon…HE RULES…HANDS DOWN!!! He embraces his vampire side to the fullest so I think he\\\’s gonna be pretty torn up when he becomes mortal. He and Elena has this kind of undeniable chemistry and their moments together are always exciting. She also admits that she can\\\’t control him like other guys cough Stefan cough, which gives her quite a bit of a challenge and makes their relationship all the more complicated…AND INTERESTING!! It\\\’s also implied that she is the only one who understands him
They (as in DE) really need each other actually, for her to learn that not everything in life is easy (and not everyone is what they see) and for him to learn that it\\\’s ok to love and to let people inside your heart
Them together is like 1000 times more interesting than any SE scene any day. Those scenes literally light up the page.
Bonnie, IMO is just so whiny…I mean I rate her powers and all, being a witch is pretty awesome, but she\\\’s just too immature for Damon. He basically sees her as a pet, I mean seriously, \\\”my little bird\\\”? -_- Who calls someone they like that much an animal? Anyhoo, she and Matt obviously have a mutual thing going on so I\\\’m all up for that. However, they did foreshadow that Bonnie would die young so I\\\’m not sure how that\\\’s gonna work out >_>
For the show, the producer admitted that he\\\’s an SE fan, so I would not expect a DE ending @ all (which totally sucks IMO, because Ian and Nina hooking up on TV would,,,be…HAWT!!!). But according to him, SE are soulmates…sigh.
As for the Books, there\\\’s been alot of DE foreshadowing, plus LJS having a softspot for Damon. Though it is beyond me why people keep referring to the supper where Elena perform the ritual to find her future hubby as \\\”dumb\\\”. What I also find kind of interesting is how Elena was about to kiss Damon the first time they met without even knowing who he was…THAT is what we call love (or passion) at first sight
Then when she finally did kiss him…She completely forgot about Stefan (for a very good while).
The reason she doesn\\\’t exactly pursue Damon head on is because she feels guilty of betraying Stefan, not that I blame her on anything, but if you realize that you may actually love someone else would you ignore it and stay in a relationship that you may eventually grow out of and end up asking yourself \\\”what if?\\\” for the rest of your life? As for Stefan being her launchpad (her first), Damon is the fire that keeps her going (her next and last).
Now for my crack @ the secret…What\\\’s the point of calling Elena \\\”easy and a slut\\\” if she’s still a virgin? o_O That makes no sense to me…Then again, I also have no idea what you can sense from tears. IMO, I think he can taste her emotions. Since he says \\\”I know what you are…\\\”, he might realize that she\\\’s just like him…that would be epic!! XD She’s not a saint like Stefan, but she is a good person. We do know that she is going to fall in love with him to the same extent that she loves Stefan…Maybe even more…Hmmm…I am really really really hoping for a Delena ending regardless!!!
One things for sure…I CANNOT WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON THIS BOOK!!! XD
PEACE!!!
TEAM DAMON ALL THE WAY BABY!! WOOOT!!! XD
Seriously, who can deny the awesomeness that is…Damon? That bad boy charm is just irresistable on him. Besides, it’s high time this Salvatore got some real lovin in his life!!
Stefan is like Twilight all over again (the typical Edward-type…even though VD came out first >_>). Stefan to me is depressing, annoying, waaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too sappy and ungrateful (I mean how many times has Damon saved him?). The sad part is that Stefan is so pathetic that he’ll probably fall to pieces if Damon and Elena hooked up. It’s taken him like over 2 centuries to get over Katherine, so what do we expect if DE happens? o_O
The SE relationship is sooooooo…blah!! Ugh…They are so unrealtistic and overly romantic that it gets kind of annoying after a while…I mean reading the first 60 or so pages of Nightfall was like torture with those 2 pining over each other o_O And the “lovely little love” nickname? How whipped (and sappy) can you get o_O I almost pity him sometimes…lol. Besides, them ending up together would be way too easy. He needs to learn how to get an actual life and live a little. Him being referred to as a saint makes him sound overly perfect too. Stefan doesn’t NEED Elena, he NEEDS to get a life…LMAO =P
As for Damon…HE RULES…HANDS DOWN!!! He embraces his vampire side to the fullest so I think he’s gonna be pretty torn up when he becomes mortal. He and Elena has this kind of undeniable chemistry and their moments together are always exciting. She also admits that she can’t control him like other guys (cough Stefan cough), which gives her quite a bit of a challenge and makes their relationship all the more complicated…AND INTERESTING!! She is the only one who understands him afterall
They (as in DE) really need each other actually, for her to learn that not everything in life is easy (and not everyone is what they see) and for him to learn that it’s ok to love and to let people inside your heart
Them together is like 1000 times more interesting than any SE scene any day. Those scenes literally light up the page.
Bonnie, IMO is just so whiny…I mean I rate her powers and all, being a witch is pretty awesome, but she’s just too immature for Damon. He basically sees her as a pet, I mean seriously, “my little bird”? -_- Who calls someone they like that much an animal? Anyhoo, she and Matt obviously have a mutual thing going on so I’m all up for that. However, they did foreshadow that Bonnie would die young so I’m not sure how that’s gonna work out >_>
For the show, the producer admitted that he’s an SE fan, so I would not expect a DE ending @ all (which totally sucks IMO, because Ian and Nina hooking up on TV would,,,be…HAWT!!!). But according to him, SE are soulmates…sigh.
As for the Books, there’s been alot of DE foreshadowing, plus LJS having a softspot for Damon. Though it is beyond me why people keep referring to the supper where Elena perform the ritual to find her future hubby as “dumb”. What I also find kind of interesting is how Elena was about to kiss Damon the first time they met without even knowing who he was…THAT is what we call love (or passion) at first sight
Then when she finally did kiss him…She completely forgot about Stefan (for a very good while).
The reason she doesn’t exactly pursue Damon head on is because she feels guilty of betraying Stefan, not that I blame her on anything, but if you realize that you may actually love someone else would you ignore it and stay in a relationship that you may eventually grow out of and end up asking yourself “what if?” for the rest of your life? As for Stefan being her launchpad (her first), Damon is the fire that keeps her going (her next and last).
Now for my crack @ the secret…What’s the point of calling Elena “easy and a slut” if she’s still a virgin? o_O That makes no sense to me…Then again, I also have no idea what you can sense from tears. IMO, I think he can taste her emotions. Since he says “I know what you are…”, he might realize that she’s just like him…that would be epic!! XD She’s not a saint like Stefan, but she is a good person. We do know that she is going to fall in love with him to the same extent that she loves Stefan…Maybe even more…Hmmm…I am really really really hoping for a Delena ending regardless!!!
One things for sure…I CANNOT WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON THIS BOOK!!! XD
PEACE!!!
Dicey, Great thoughts! On Kevin saying Elena and Stefan are soul mates means nothing. If you remember he also did Dawsons creek and referd to Joey and Dawson as “Soul mates”. Even in the last episode they said it to each other, but who did she end up with? PACEY! Soul Mate can be a friend a parent etc. It is not always a lover.
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As for the secret Shadow Souls was already released in Australia as said by Ahshlyloves above, and the secret IS that she is a Virgin. Which we all had guessed because she was called a pure maiden.
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Hi guys, does anyone have any further tidbits of news out of Australia?
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I think it was pretty much agreed upon by most of us that the secret was that she is a virgin but, as an ardent D/E shipper I would love to know if this teaser above ends up with Elena “surrendering” her virginity to Damon, as the teaser above kinda suggests will happen, although I read in another spoiler that this scene takes a bizarre turn with Elena starting to float (WTF ?????) and then Damon bites her. If LJS messes up what could, (and should,) be an awesome love scene between these two and they never actually get it on, i’ll be throwing the book out of the window. Somebody throw me a bone here that these two are actually going to get some heat going on.
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After the he knows she knows he knows part. He exhaled oxygen into her mouth which made her float and then she let him bite her.
The next morning when she awoke he was gone, when he returned he didnt remember anything about the night before. They then realize shinichi had gotten into Damon and took his memories. Elena then tells Damon she is NOT a Virgin.
So my question is why did she tell Damon she was not a virgin when she is? I asked, that question to the girl who read the book. Ill let you know what she says.
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@Dicey your almost completely right! except… it took Stefan FIVE CENTURIES to get over Katherine! how pathetic is that?!
@ team damon, i wonder why she would say she was not? are you saying the night before he knew she was and then he left came back (didn’t remember last night) and then she was NOT virgin? That would imply they had sex to me, but I thought vamps can’t get it on. If that’s not the reason she said she was not then maybe it was because she was embrassed and doesn’t want to seem so innocent around the experienced Damon….but who knows he might be a virgin too?
Although I love the spoilers but I don’t really want to hear much more. I don’t want the book to get ruined, I hope people don’t most more. Even as a S/E fan I will be soo pissed if LJS sets up Damon and Elena having sex and doesn’t pull through. It’s annoying when something is all set up (like the big fight @ the end of Breaking Dawn-sorry for the reference to the ones who hate twilight) and then never goes down. Its like whats the point of even writting about it then?!
I can’t wait for the book to come out. I’m scared to read spoilers cus I don’t want them to say something I don’t want to know. I wish there was a way for these comments to be more organized so it would be easier for me to avoid them!!!!!! I tried to look online at how to get the book from Australia and didn’t find anything except something being released on March 26 for friggein 50 bucks!
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DO NOT READ IF YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THE END OF SHADOW SOULS AND THROUGH THE BOOK!
This is what an Australian fan said after reading the book
Shinichi can take over anyone they like.. whether they have a malach in them or not.
And i think with Damon, its easier.. since he WAS possessed at one point.
Damon and Elena do kiss a few times in the book, Elenas heart and soul is still with Stefan though. I just think she is a little confused, but then realizes that even though she loves Stefan so much. She also loves Damon too.. she cares for him, and that\’s something Stefan would understand, she would want him to help him. It wouldn\’t be a jealousy thing at all.
But they got Stefan back in the end.. and then of course, Damon accidentally took Stefan\’s chance for humanity.
Which i hope to be rectified in the final book, because after everything Stefan has been through.. this is something he deserves to have.
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I read the first 8 chapters and during one of them Elena visits Stefan and she cries on him and that helps him somehow and he explains something about the tears of a pure maiden so thats probably what Damon was talking about. His knowing Elena is a virgin still
damn you missy!!!!!!!!
lol i skipped over that part just read the first paragraph and the last sentence but we all know they will get Stefan back. But I don’t know how long I can NOT read that for!!!
ARGH
i cannot believe i have to wait till December to read the last book and find out what happens in the end it’s actually kidding me . Although ….. I Cannot wait till shadow souls comes out either . ONLY 17 DAYS TO GO!! I LOVE LOVE LOVE Damon and will actually cry if he and Elena don’t end up together ; i feel for Stefan i really do but Katherine even admitted to loving Stefan more and Damon deserves to have someone love him back now as Elena is just starting to do now and i hope she will carry on in doing so, im also kind of disappointed after hearing the Australian spoiler about D&E kissing a few times, but still in the end of the book being completely smitten with Stefan i kind of expected more between them or maybe It will pan out In Midnight, also maybe the Australian girl has just left a lot of it out so she won’t ruin it for everyone. I just hope Damon and Elena end up together, because that would be the perfect ending in my opinion and I can’t see L.J.Smith writing another 3 books in Damon’s point of you – for Damon – and based around Damon if she not going to twist it around and Hopefully fingers crossed end up putting Damon and Elena Together.
- chantelle
Chantelle,
I hope there is more as well with Damon and Elena in the book otherwise I will be really disappointed. I already feel let down that we didnt get our steamy scene with Damon and Elena..I mean what the spoiler said happens after… Is LJ Kidding??!!! I am hopping also that the Australia girl just left out some great things because if LJ Smith brought back the series just to put her with Stefan again BOOOORRRIIIIINNNGGGG!!
Ohh and I will cry too
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@Team Damon
I agree a thousand percent every word you wrote.
The teaser above suggests a lead-in to a great love scene between D/E and hopefully the beginning of a new more intense relationship between them. BUT if LJS is going to ruin it with these bizarre twists and turns that IMO lead nowhere and just end up being a big let down and a huge dissapointment, then I am thinking of not bothering to buy the book at all. IMO she sometimes has difficulty staying focused in her writing, for example in the Harper Teen teaser when D/E are kissing and she goes in to a lengthy description of Elena with the young boy chained to the boulder – that IMO ruins the flow of the love scene and should somehow be dealt with separately. I know these books are aimed at a young audience but it’s seeming like she is writing for 10 year olds.
I am beginning to think more favourably of the tv show, even though it doesn’t stick strictly to the storyline , there is more in it for us D/E shippers, especially lately and being as it airs in prime time with a 14+ rating, it’s not geared to little kids.
Okeee, akwaaard. Elena starts floating… again?! WTC! Anyway, a couple weeks ago, I read a comment that someone thought, “why would the people in the Dark Dimensions just let Damon go and only take away his vampire side? Couldn’t Stefan just turn him back?”, they wouldn’t just let them get away, they’d put some bad catch. I think maybe they put a curse on him. Like if he turned back into a vampire they would find him and kill him, or he could only be turned back into a vamp by another girl vamp whom he loved and she loved him, which might be a problem because, if you look back at the previous books, he has trouble with the long terms. Katherin liked him a little but she chose Stefan in the end; Elena has/d feelings for him, but she chose/chooses Stefan in the end. I feel bad for him in that way. That is another reason Bonnie is a posability for him; Bonnie can be really passionate and a little clingy (in a good way) in realationships. They have feelings for each other so they are good together. Elena will probably choose Stefan in the end, and Bonnie will be able to pick up Damon’s crushed feelings (if she would just freaking mature already!!!!!!!!) and have a good passionate realationship with Damon. JMO. I NEED THE FREAKING BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How does Damon accidentally ruin Stefan’s chance for humanity? Wait! I don’t want to know! Please, no one post ANYMORE spoilers! I don’t want to read them! It will ruin the book for everyone. BTW, I thought I was the only Addie on here. -_-
I know I don’t want anyone to post anymore spoilers, it’s starting to ruin it. and honestly i know most of us on here, me definitely included, can’t help but read them since we so curious.
PLEASE DON’T POST ANYMORE SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!! FOR MY SANITY!!!!!!! LOL.
@the other addie, but really katherine didn’t choose stefan. she might have said she loved Stefan more, but she left them both and chose no one. well except for when she came back and chose Damon.
if thos spoilers are accurate, that really hacks me off. One, that we would get ‘jipped’ out of our Damon and Elena scene. Two, he doesn’t even remember. Three, if Shinichi can possess Damon is this going to lead into the only times Damon reacted to Elena was because he was possessed? I hope that is NOT where she goes with number three. She said Elena would fall in love with Damon in this book, I hope it is more intense than a kiss here and there. JMO
PLEASE DON’T POST ANYMORE SPOILERS….ATLEAST WITHOUT A SPOILER WARNING.
Even if you’re just talking about it in a comment. I keep reading comments not thinking they have spoilers in them and then they do. I’m sure other people feel the same.
Thanks
I thought this was supposed to be released on March 1 for Kindle.. now amazon is saying that is March 16 too! I am sooooo mad I was planning to read it on The Kindle Online (this free download to have kindle books on your computer even if you do not own a kindle)
The wait feels a billion times longer now.. If only i had a time machine.. or i lived in Australia (buttheads..)
Team Damon,
NO SPOILER I will not mention any promise
i completely agree with what you said she better have some more Damon and Elena scenes :@ The Australian girl probably did so she wouldn’t ruin the book for us well I hope so anyway.
and i have come to a conclusion on a couple of things. I really don’t think L.J would write three books “in Damon’s point of view and then let Elena end up with Stefan, there would be no point in all the chemistry between D&E it would also be to easy, wouldn’t she of just left the books where Elena comes back to life and goes to Stefan and Damon leaves ? but no she didn’t she’s come back writing another 3 books and Damon Is her favourite character why would she drag it out like that ??. Also with the thing ******** … that happens to Damon in the end of shadow souls, why would L.J do It unless it had something major to do with him and Elena and the fact that he does the thing .…… for Stefan which shows that he does care about other people especially Elena and his brother who he always claims he doesn’t care about but this shows he does. You would think him doing the thing …..…… would bring Elena and Damon even closer and if she’s falling in love with him already that is just going to make her fall in love with him more. IDK maybe I’m wrong and I’m just trying to pair them together to hard but It makes sense if you think about It ….
And If they don’t end up together or if Damon dies; god knows what I’ll do.
..…. Although, i have to admit Stefan does deserve a happy ending too, as he lost Katherine as well and he did fall in love with Elena first where as Damon’s first intentions where a little bit out, i mean come on he was a little bit out of order to her, black mailing her, leaving her In a sort of snow storm but then he has shown his compassionate caring side to her as well looking after her and not taking advantage when she first became a vampire , choosing the consequence of maybe dying rather than killing Stefan and Elena and going off with Katherine and he is travelling all this way for Elena and for Stefan.
Yeah well I’m rambling. I’m gonna stop before I bore every one to sleep…
16 DAYS J J
Oh …. BTW Team Damon,
Did you find out what the Australian girl said back, that thing you said you’d ask her ?? x
Chantelle,
I did ask and she did not remember WHY she told him that. Which is fine..that will give us something to find out on our own.
I agree with your thoughts, and I hope they are right. How boring if she ended it just like she ended the last books.
There is a twist though in the end, what your thinking about Damon. I am not going to tell you so it will be a surprise but what we are thinking will happen, will make us go,WHAT?!!
Damon makes the books in my opinion. Hes exciting and I love his sense of humor. I cant imagine her doing anything to him, especially since he is her favorite. Who knows though, she killed Elena in the third and that was suppose to be the final. SO who knows…
Again I LOVE your comments. I cant wait when you have the book in your hands to hear more of what you think. Like all her books it will leave us with a huge cliff hanger so we will have a lot to talk about.
i 2,hate the spoilers,but i can’t help reading them…LOL!!!!
@Team Damon: Actually, Katherin was the one that killed Elena in the 3rd book. Everybody assumed it was Damon, and that was why Stefan tried to kill him, also, they didn’t know that Katherin was alive then, so who else could kill her? It wasn’t acually Damon, he always gets blamed for everything and nobody loves him. His prayers aren’t answered either. Someone needs to be with him (Bonnie). Since Elena is probably going to choose Stefan, he’s going to need someone (Bonnie) to care for him and get under those barriers and open up his heart. He deserves to be loved too.
omg i luv spoilers an i sooooo want more of them.
(spoiler if no1s read the above)
i reli cant belive that elenas a virgin, i mean shes had LOADS of boyfriends so y aint she done it.
@ auzzie girl plz plz send whoeva ur sendin more spoilers i no u guys dony lyk it but i do an i probly wont even get the book till may cos amazon wont let me preorder the other 1
so if possible more spoilers plz
thanks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx XD
=)
Team Damon,
SPOILER QUESTION… SORRY
yeah your right or it will spoil the whole book, and about that twist I’m abit confused isn’t the twist where Damon gets turned into a mortal or if not there’s another one ? WHAT !! how many are there but then L.J does like to keep things .… interesting. And again back to the surprise twist that you won’t tell me (cries) um is it in midnight or is it the one i already no about him turning human ?? Please let me no if it IS that because if it is then I no already ao there will be no surprise and I think it could work out well hmmm idk ??
And thank you I love your comments too, and Damon does help make the books, he’s the humour to the book with all his sarcastic comments and crazy actions, your left wondering what he will do next.
And yes neither can I, not sure if you live In America , but I live In England and am pre ordering it from America so mine may arrive i week or so later (UNFORTUNATLEY) :@ and i cannot wait to see what else will happen between Elena and Damon – fingers crossed it should be good and not a complete let down.
And yes we will have a lot to write about until DECEMBER when the last one is out !!!
do you know what would sux..if the girl that was talking to you about the spoilers lied bout it..well not sux all the way cuz the spoilers iv herd are diapointing : ( maby there diferent from what she said
lol just my mind thinking about all this and hopeing
Addie, I meant LJ Smith killed off Elena. Meaning if she is willing to write one of her main characters out then she will off anyone.
Chantelle, The TWIST will be WHY he is turned human.
My question isn’t about Shadow Souls, it’s about Midnight. (I live in the U.S. and have only read the first 8 chapters of Shadow Souls in case anyone’s wondering). This is pure speculation on my part, but what if Elena chooses both Stefan and Damon at the end of Midnight? I know Elena said she didn’t want to do what Katherine did, pitting brother against brother, but what if LJ ends up going that route with Elena’s final decision since she will love both of them the same way? And if Elena does choose both, would Stefan or Damon even be okay with that? Stefan wants her all to himself, as does Damon……………….I can’t see Stefan letting her go to his brother without a fight (unless he thought she’d be better off with Damon).
What do you all think?
Team Damon,
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Hmmmmmm ! i thought it was to save Stefan :/ ? Hang on … Elena ..…… Damon …..………Stefan …..……. hmmmm hang on !! could it be maybe so that he could be with Elena ? could my theory be right ? Hmmmmmm ! i thought it was to save Stefan :/ ? Hang on … Elena ..…… Damon …..………Stefan …..……. hmmmm hang on !! could it be maybe so that he could be with Elena ? could my theory be right ?
if you do reply to my weird question, this is the last thing i want to no if I’m right about and then i will just wait till it is released …
Thanks x
Chantelle,
Everything we think of WHY he was turned human..both yours and my thoughts were wrong/are wrong.
To answer your question above the last one. I am in America, yes.
I wonder why your a week later, then again I wonder why Australia got the book before us …
Do you have amazon.com? If you do they can download the book on your computer on the 16th. That way we will be on the same page.
Ashley, I HOPE the Aussie girl is wrong..I would be in heaven. LOL
Crimsonink, LJ Said in an interview it will end that way
Here it is below
L. J. Smith: Where the girl is sort of saying as her predecessor, which I’m skipping forward in the series a bit ‘cause her predecessor, Katherine who looks just like her, wants both boys to be with her. Elena ends like that too. Elena ends up in the position of wanting both Damon and Stefan, which is like Elena. Although she learns a lot of things, she still is Elena and she can’t really see why monogamy should apply to women when so often it doesn’t apply to men.
@Team Damon: thank you for the quote and the link! *shivers in anticipation of reading the last two books*
Team Damon,
Hmmmm okay I get it now so it’s something else other than what we thought it was which you know.
And wow your so lucky I really want to move to America :/ but me and planes don’t go down to well
And really um no I don‘t have amazon.com, but I’m getting it. So how does that work then , how would you get to read it on the day on the computer ?
Please explain
I have the same question as Chantelle, how does the kindle for PC work?? I downloaded it along time ago but don’t know how to work it. Also I reserved a copy of the book at borders but saw something online (borders.com) where I can order the book for half the price and get it delievered to the store. But does it get delievered to the store the day its released or 2-3 days after since thats normal shipping time? If anyone knows it would help me a lot in deciding if I should order online.
As to everyone saying why would LJS rewrite the books if not to put her with Damon. I say the opposite why rewrite the books and make her and stefan go through more just to break them up. BUT….with LJS new writing style I’m not so sure the decision has anything to do with reviving or the integrity of the books. In my honest opinion, I think it’s more about money. Maybe not to LJS but atleast to her publishers. I’m sure they wanna milk her and TVD for all it’s worth. Anyone agree?
An AWESOME Damon and Elena video
damon did say that vampires hav sences that they dont even know about until they need them so that is probably why he figured out Elena’s secret by tasting her tears
i cann”t believe the date was pushed back now i hav to wait even longer!
@Bails, you are so right! I remember in the first 8 chapters, he said that they have all kinds of wierd sences. I think that is how he figured it out! That’s cool…!
*Bonnie and Damon all the way!*
I just remembered something! (excited moment)
Okay, somebody said that in the first book, Damon wasn’t as nice or in love with Elena; he black mailed her and threatened her and all that. Damon NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER did that to Bonnie. Also, Elena has been let down a lot by Damon; A LOT! Damon has never let down Bonnie before. There was that brief moment when she was ‘calling’ him with her psychic ability and he ignored her for the most part, but that was only because he was possesed. If he weren’t possesed, I bet that he would jump to the rescue instantly. In this sense, I think that Bonnie and Damon would be better together. BTW, Bonnie is scared of A LOT of things (I will admitt that) but she is not scared of Damon (for the most part). In Dark Reunioun, Damon catches Bonnie from falling, and she needs a way to escape. She quickly thinks of ways to escape, and she kisses him, then Mutt ruins it and, well you get the point. Then in Nightfall, Bonnie calls him to save them from the trees; Bonnie calls him again to save them from Caroline; Bonnie kisses him after he saves them from Caroline. That is evidence enough for me to say that she is not entirely afraid of Damon, I mean come on! If there was a vampire influencing you or about ready to suck your blood, wouldn’t you at least be a tiny bit scared, so I can’t blame her for her fears sometimes. Anyway, this is another reason Bonnie and Damon are awesome together.
BONNIE AND DAMON ALL THE WAY BABY!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!
@addie, yeah those are a few instences but still I don’t think it’s at all enough to base a relationship on. Don’t get me wrong I would be okay with Damon hooking up with Bonnie if it means Elena and Stefan are together…but for any reason other than that it’s not believable me to. Bonnie isn’t the one who is always on his mind…not even really Elena. I mean he thinks of Elena a lot more recently but not as much before. He wasn’t really focused on love as much in the original series as it seems LJS is making him in this new trilogy.
In my opinion there is not enough evidence to justify a Bonnie/Damon relationship….that is unless Shadow Souls includes some scenes between them…which I doubt b/c it’s mostly about saving Stefan AND Damon and Elena falling in love. If LJS was going to have Damon fall in love with Bonnie and vice versa there would be some hints, it would be somewhere in the synopsis. She would drag us on some Damon loves Elena ride just for him to drop her and go to Bonnie.
It could happend, but I’m not fond of the idea (mostly because I don’t like Bonnie&it seems to cheaper Damon’s character IMO) I think the only way this would happend would be to create a happy ending for everyone. To be honest, I don’t even want Matt and Bonnie together….she’s too whiny. I posted another comment somewhere on here stating that I think all 3 boys just look at Bonnie as a little girl/sister they have to protect because she can’t do anything herself. Of course, Damon is going to save her, not because he loves her, but for a variety of other reasons including; 1. she is Elena and his brothers friend 2.She’s an innocent little girl 3. (biggest one) throughout the series he’s starting to learn about humanity again…he can’t just sit around and watch innocent people die anymore. He’s actually started to have feelings and wouldn’t let Bonnie (or any of the other friends) die unjustified.
Team Damon,
Hmmmm okay I get it now so it’s something else other than what we thought it was which you know.
And wow your so lucky I really want to move to America :/ but me and planes don’t go down to well
And really um no I don‘t have amazon.com, but I’m getting it. So how does that work then , how would you get to read it on the day on the computer ?
Please explain
@Dicey Right! i agree with u about D/E …
And arghhhhhhhhhhh, i’m holding myself soo strong to not read any spoilers!! i hope i can hold till the end! thats hard!!
C’MON when this golden book’s going to release?? I’M SO FREAKING EXCITED!!!!
And i hope i can read Damon’s name in every page i read!
And yes I am Team Damon allllll the way!!! even tho I love Stefan sooo much! but, Damon is the best!
@Addie Well, thats right. I love Bonnie when she is with Damon, but I also love Elena when she is with him, so i don’t know! let’s see what will happen! cuz in both ways, i mean Damon with Elena, or Damon with Bonnie will be good for me!
@CrimsonInk Well, as i always say… Everything may happen! but as i see or feel, That would never happens! cuz Stefan or even Damon will never agree on that… But, maybe they change their minds in the end and agree….
@Dicey “Stefan doesn’t NEED Elena… he NEEDS to get a life”
HAHA that is GENIUS!
@Reem, everything, and ANYTHING can happen, your right. I know a lot of things in these books have shocked me and made me go, “WHAT?!?!!!”. I REALLY WANT BONNIE AND DAMON TO BE TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGH!!!! THIS WAITING IS KILLING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, what if something totally shocking happens and Damon suddenly realizes that he DOES love Bonnie and then they get together?! What? Oh you’re still here? Sorry, I was just day dreaming, but IMO, and IMD practically anything happens in the books, so it could happen. I mean, Elena can fly, how many of us expected that? Before that, she came back from the dead, I mean I knew there would be a happy ending, but I personally didn’t expect THAT. So if you consider all the crazy stuff that has happened in the books, Bonnie and Damon being together is not that farfetched, especially if Bonnie would just mature already!!!!!!
B/D forever! \/ peace!
@Reem, everything, and ANYTHING can happen, your right. I know a lot of things in these books have shocked me and made me go, \”WHAT?!?!!!\”. I REALLY WANT BONNIE AND DAMON TO BE TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGH!!!! THIS WAITING IS KILLING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, what if something totally shocking happens and Damon suddenly realizes that he DOES love Bonnie and then they get together?! What? Oh you\’re still here? Sorry, I was just day dreaming, but IMO, and IMD practically anything happens in the books, so it could happen. I mean, Elena can fly, how many of us expected that? Before that, she came back from the dead, I mean I knew there would be a happy ending, but I personally didn\’t expect THAT. So if you consider all the crazy stuff that has happened in the books, Bonnie and Damon being together is not that farfetched, especially if Bonnie would just mature already!!!!!!
B/D forever! \\/ peace!
AGH, WHY DID THAT STUPID THING POST MY COMMENT TWICE?! IT SAID THAT IT COULDN\’T POST BEFORE, AND NOW ITS THERE TWICE! WAIT, maybe that\’s a good thing, like an emphasis on my point! Go Bonnie and Damon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! B-)
@Reem: yeah, you’re right, anything can happen and probably will! Who knew Elena would have different sets of wings? Who knew what a malach was before The Return: Nightfall? Before book 5 I’d never heard of a kitsune, either, so I guess anything LJ can dream up is fair game in her books.
I admit that it is difficult for me to see both Stefan and Damon willing to share Elena, but then again, if she’s not happy unless they’re both in her life, who knows? Too bad we’ll have to wait a bit longer until we find out.
umm…. WHEN HAS DAMON EVER LET ELENA DOWN? sorry, but i dont ever remember that happening….
plz somebody could tell me when shadow soul will be released plz!!!!!
and i’m sorry if my english isn’t so correct is because I’m from brasil
Well, JayJay, here in America the book is being realesed on March 16th. Yay! Only 14 more days!
@Kylie, IMO, Damon let Elena down when he said he was going to take care of Stefan and he sent him to Shinichi who influenced Stefan to think that he could turn mortal if he went to the “Shi no Shi”. Also, in the first books, Elena keeps repeatedly saying that if she gives him blood (or something along those lines) to stay away and stop hurting Stefan and her friends, but he does that anyway. JMO.
I WISH THAT MATT WOULD JUST DIE ALREADY! HE’S NO HELP AND HE’S WHINY!
BONNIE AND DAMON ALL THE WAY!!!!!
-ADDIE
Shadow souls will be released march 16, 2010. Think that Damon and Elena go together well, but so does Elena and Stefan. It like a love triangle twice. First with Katherine and now with Elena. So i think that Elena going to end up like Katerine again, but this time there is no coming back.
@Addie Yes, agree… When i bought NightFall, it was my first book of the Vampire Diaries, i thought it was the first book (LOL) then i googled it, and tried to find more infos about the first books… And i’m from Emirates (UAE, Arabian Gulf Country) so, its hard to find a books from 90’s… anyways i found them finally, and i was just crazzzzzzzzy about them! and Damon ofcourse was my fave! Then i read Nightfall, and i was just SHOCKED at the fantasy in that book, and in the previous books, there were no such things (Except Elena coming to life again) .
But, i read it once,twice,thrice and MILLION times and in the end i successed at making me overcome with alllll the fantasy..
Hahahaha did anybody did that like i did?
And O M G!! only a couple of weeks till we buy it! can u imagine? finally!
And about Bonnie & Damon thing, I am sure that anything can happen like u said Elena can fly! so, Damon & Bonnie can be together!
@CrimsonInk Ahhhhh I love and want Elena with Damon!! but what will happen to Stefan so she can choose Damon? Cuz she won’t choose Damon while Stefan is here! but i don’t want Stefan to go away or die! I soooooooo wanna know!! xD
nooooooooo!!!please not damon and bonnie…u guys are killing me with talks of damon and bonnie(LOL)DAMON AND ELENA all the way!!!hahahahahahaha…seriously,these days are dragging along!here in south africa it most probably will be released in a couple of months time(LOL).
@taznim HAHAHAHAHAHAHA well, I love Elena & Damon together! but at the same time i love Bonnie & Damon together!
@Reem: no idea about Stefan and even though out of the two I think he’s a bit dull at times (I love both of them but Damon is my favorite), I still think he will pick up on the fact that Elena is in love with Damon. Maybe he’ll see that she’s miserable without his older brother or just miserable in general due to the predicament she finds her heart in due to loving both brothers. Perhaps a miracle will happen and he and Damon will both agree to put aside their differences and share Elena, if that’s what makes her happy, with each of them loving her in his own special way. Can’t wait to find out what will happen!!!
Have you guys read “Bonnie and Damon After Hours”? Well in it, Bonnie faints when she knows that Damon is a vamp. Well, then, Bonnie askes if he bit her, and he says that he would NEVER bite or draw blood from a sleeping maiden. What’s my point exactly? Well, in, I believe the 2nd book, when Elena is sleeping, he draws blood from her… So, I think he said that he would never draw blood from a sleeping maiden because he liked her in a way that he didn’t with Elena. Also, remember in NIghtfall when he was after her the whole time and he cared for her and stuff? Well, in the original books, he threatend her and forced her and all that, and that was before she got the irresistable aura. Bonnie never had an irresistable aura, but he cared for her too. Though Damon and Elena have a lot more scenes then Damon and Bonnie, Damon and Elena had most of their scenes after she got that aura, and he was jealous of Stefan in the first books so that’s why he was chasing after her in the first books. Damon liked Bonnie without jealousy, plus, he knew her way before he knew Elena. JMO. BTW, 13 more days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
B-)
BONNIE AND DAMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thankyou Addie
the best is Elena/Damon Damon and bonnie is not nice
after all damon likes elena very much he cryed in front of her he opened his heart to her he never did to bonnie
damon/elena all the way!!!!!!!!!!
Thakyou Addie
But I’m all favor of damon/elena Damon cryed in front o elena he opened his herat to her he neve did tha in front of bonie
Dmon/Elena all the way!!!!!!!!!!
Damon had not met Elena in human form (only seen her as the crow) when the time frame is set for “Damon and Bonnie after hours”. I’m not saying it can’t happen but there has not been enough evidence or scenerios that make me believe a Damon/Bonnie relationship is plausible.I mean even after he saved her in Nightfall, after he leaves the one he was worried about was Elena and what she thought of him. And in the first 8 chapters of Shadow Souls, he doesn’t give Bonnie a second thought. I think there has been way more evidence of a Matt and Bonnie relationship. Her jumping to hold his hand when Ms. Flowers his tending to his arm in Nightfall, Matt saying some how Bonnie was in his arms when they are out searching for Elena, Matt threatening Damon over Bonnie. etc…..
Frankly, the first 8 chapters of Shadow Souls, suggest Damon is really, really in LOVE with Elena. I think trying to pull off a Damon/Bonnie relationship after Nightfall and what I’ve read of Shadow Souls just would NOT work. L.J. Smith has already convinced me he’s in love with Elena, sticking him with Bonnie would make me say WTF?
Wasn’t Damon & Bonnie after hours written well after the orignial books? Maybe this was just a ploy by LJS to make a Damon/Bonnie relationship plausible…you know just to keep us on our toes. Although, I don’t think there is enough evidence to suggest this (or even make it believable.) LJS wants to make it clear anything can happen, she wanted to sneak a little connection in where she could (short stories) since she obviously wasn’t focusing on it in the books.
Damon crying? I hated it, it’s not Damon. Then again, I loved it, LJS was trying to show Damon is more than just tough skin. But I wish it could be done in a different way b/c it just isn’t the Damon we know…if he did have to cry he wouldn’t do it in front of Elena. Even though some of the plots were stupid and weird, the points were still clear (well most of ‘em lol…WINGS?)
I think her secret is her ‘phantem tears of a pure maiden’ and being able to cure all illnesses. Also it could relate back to the boy tied to the bolder inside of Damon’s mind, telling her that he will ‘keep their secret’ meeting. Damon is overjoyed when he finds out her secret and kisses her again in hopes of her ’saving him’. Just my thoughts;) What do you think?
@Ashleylovez, I\’m not sure when L.J. wrote \’Damon and Bonnie after hours\’ though you are probably right it was after the original books and well have been an attempt to set up more of a Damon/Bonnie connection but considering she wrote it in the time frame she did it was apparent Damon had not yet met Elena or had feelings for her. It\’s been a while since I read it but if I remember correctly Bonnie says something about Elena trying to GET Stefan, well, Elena already has Stefan when Damon first shows himself to Elena in the gym. So, it had to be written from the prospective that Damon hadn\’t met Elena yet.
Your right anything could happen and if L.J. is trying to create a happy ending for everyone Bonnie may very well be the set up for Damon, but for me she hasn\’t shown me enough to convince me of that relationship. She\’s working too hard to show how Damon feels for ELena IMO to suddenly put him with Bonnie. I mean as readers we get steered in the direction the author takes us you make me believe Damon finally cares for someone besides himself and loves someone else since Katherine and probably the only time as a vampire to just for him to just suddenly decide Bonnie is the one he really wants would NOT work for me. JMO
@kayla…WELL SAID!!!!!!
@Kayla, I totally agree that it would be super akward if Damon is like “Oh I love Elena so much she’s gonna be my princess of darkness” then 2 seconds later, “Oh, I don’t care about Elena, I really want Bonnie.” But say something were to, maybe happen to one of the characters (Mutt). Say he was to, oh IDK, die (which IMO would be totally awesome, ’cause I hate him!). Bonnie would be really sad, because there has been A LOT of evidence (though I hate to admitt it) toward a B/M realationship, so if he were to die, she would be so sad and I dont think that Damon could resist her vulnerableness. In Nightfall, Damon felt really bad for her when he was trying to save her, so he probably couldn’t resist trying to comfort her. So he could comfort her and that is how the realationship could work, ’cause she wouldn’t have anybody else, and I know she has feelings for Damon, but they are just not as strong as her feelings for Mutt. That is how a Bonnie/Damon realationship could work. I know if this were to happen, it would not happen in Shadow Souls because the description for Midnight on LJs website says that he stands up to Caroline. It would be a little hard to stand up to someone when you’re dead. lol! I really want this (or something like it) to happen because 1- I hate Mutt. 2- I hate Mutt with Bonnie. 3- If he dies, it evens out the couples (B/D; S/E; M/A). 4- THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO PUT BONNIE AND DAMON TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!! In case you didn’t notice, I am all for the Bonnie and Damon realationship. And I am all for killing off Mutt. lol!
B+D=<3
@Addie, LOL I can totally tell you are a Damon/Bonnie shipper. I definitely respect your opinion and your choice. But, that being said, I am a total Damon/Elena shipper, so I need Bonnie to be out of the picture and Matt is the only solution. Though I stand by what I said I don’t believe L.J. has put enough on page to constitute a Damon/Bonnie relationship thus far. May I ask why you dislike Matt so much? I’ve always liked Matt, obviously not as much as I like Damon and Stefan but he seems like a nice guy and good friend he certainly has proved himself over and over to Elena, Stefan and Bonnie. I think he deserves a happy ending too. Just not with Elena, LOL After all, Damon belongs with ELena….*wink*, *wink*…
LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL….
Thought I would throw this out there too. I always wondered about it: Nightfall page 538-539. This is when Bonnie is tied to the altar, Damon is on the widows walk and Elena is in a tree. This is when Elena thinks Damon has turned on her and she doesn’t know hes pretending: she is thinking “Damon seemed genuinely bored. You Bastard, You’d turn on your BEST FRIEND for amusement.
Now the reason I put this on here is because lots of ppl are wondering what exactly Damon does feel for Bonnie if anything. Unless L.J. didn’t put alot of thought into the words she used…..Isn’t Elena suggesting Damon thinks of Bonnie as his best friend? Or am I reading that totally wrong? What do you guys think?
@ Kayla
Thats a really good observation. I have never thought there was ever any chance of Bonnie and Damon ending up together. At best he likes her and at worst he tolerates her as a human friend of Elanas. These books and the storyline are all about a love triangle between Damon, Stefan and Elena. Assuming she is forced to make a choice, and doesnt end up with both, whoever loses out will probably be the one to die somehow. Both love her like crazy and to suddenly turn romantically to someone else, other than Elena – I just dont see it happening. I believe it will be Matt and Bonnie.
@CrimsonInk Omg!!! can’t wait!!! Only few weeks till it release! xDDDDDD
@Addie Well… i read it from months ago, and i didn’t get the idea from it, but i let it go cuz in the end, its only a short story…
But, i know what u r saying… and that sound to me right!
AND OMG ONLY 13 DAYS!??? XDDDDDDDDDDD
@Kayla Well…. u convinced me! i agree on what u said!
@Lisa That would be possible! but, lets see!
To be honest, all the reason for a Damon & Bonnie relationship is either exaggerated, assumptions, or unbelievable…or all three.
I’m completely and utterly an avid Stefan supporter, which in most cases it would be assumed I also want Bonnie & Damon together…but I don’t. It would definitely seem forced just to creat a happy ending. It wouldn’t be logical to make the new trilogy all about Damon going after Elena, then put him with Bonnie. The evidence that Damon is attracted to Bonnie is close to none.
Unless the next two books have nothing but Damon & Bonnie romance scenes, (from the spoilers I’ve heard – they don’t) then no one can be certain of either of their feelings….especially when the books suggest nothing of the sort.
That said, I don’t really like Bonnie – what a whiner. I wouldn’t completely mind if she and Damon were together, but only because Elena and Stefan could be together. If there was no Stefan….I would not want Damon to choose Bonnie. Honestly She’s too much of a little girl (like a 10 yr old) to be with any of the boys!
@Kayla, I will answer your question on why I hate Mutt so much. There are actually a few different reasons; 1- he’s interfereing with my perfect happy ending! You know how much I want D/B! 2- He will not stop clinging to Elena. He even won’t stop clinging to her belongings, how STUPID IS THAT? “Oh, is the Jag okay, I didn’t mean to get mud on it. Did I break anything?” WTC is that all about? 3- He is hurting everyones feelings. I know that you think that he’s the ‘comforting and loving’ one, but thats not true; “You only want everybody and everything revolving around Elena Gilbert! You only want everything you dont have!” 4- Mutt is always hurting Bonnie’s feelings the most. Bonnie is my fav girl character, so I dont appreciate him pushing and bullying my fav character.
As for the “betraying your best friend” thing, I dont know! That is very interesting! I remember she did that wings of redemption thing and maybe she read his thoughts and found that Bonnie was like a best friend to him? Or maybe she was talking about herself in the third person, because it seems that she is the only friend he has. This is very interesting! I hope to hear everyone’s thoughts on this!
V peace out!
@ashleylovez, though I am a HUGE Bonnie supporter, I have to agree with you; Bonnie needs to have something huge and dramatic happen to her that says, “Bonnie, your time has come, you are not a child anymore, you are a mature woman.” That dramatic thing could be Mutt dying then she could be like, “Matt’s dead but I know he would want me to be strong and fearless for him.” Then, even though Mutt and Damon are huge rivals, right before he dies they could make peace and after he dies, Bonnie and Damon get together! That sounds like a good plan to me!
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3- He is hurting everyones feelings. I know that you think that he’s the ‘comforting and loving’ one, but thats not true; “You only want everybody and everything revolving around Elena Gilbert! You only want everything you dont have!”
Well lets be honest here, that statement he made was COMPLETELY true about Elena during that time in the book!! She wanted Stefan because she coulnd’t have him, she didn’t know one thing about him and was after him like a friggin bounty hunter. She has really evolved…and this would obviously hurt her feelings now since she’s not like that anymore.
I don’t remember any times when Matt has been rude to Bonnie? Could you point those out? Maybe there is some fine line situations (I haven’t seen any, but just playing both sides) that we each took a different way.
I don’t read Matt like that at all. I agree with Ashleylovez Elena was like that in the first books and even after Matt said that he ended up feeling bad for it. But, he also took up for Stefan against Tyler and the other boy when they were blocking the door(he didn’t know at the time Stefan didn’t need his help),went with Stefan to get the vervain,helped the girls find Stefan and get him out of the well, Let Elena take his blood so she could survive the transition, Helped Stefan attempt to fight Klaus and Tyler, Took up for Bonnie when Damon was attempting to seduce her into letting him take her blood, Was willing to die for Elena in Nightfall when Damon was possessed. I mean that’s just off the top of my head I bet I could find alot more examples if I think about or scan the books. I mean even though I am a Damon Fan I can see the fact that Matt IS a good guy and a good friend. I guess if he’s still clinging to Elena it’s not his fault he still has such strong feelings for her. He probably wishes he didn’t in all fairness. It has to suck to still be in love with someone who is in love with someone else. Bonnie is the only other girl he has shown any interest in at all so I hope he ends up with her. JMO
Matt has MORE than shown his loyalty throughout the series, and apparently, according to the scene where Matt walks in on Damon rubbing a rose in Elena’s face (and her liking it), that continues in Shadow Souls.
^^^^^ I meant to say Matt has been more than loyal to Stefan…but when I think about he has really been loyal to all of them
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~A
Yeah I guess I can say that the Mutt has been loyal,
but why do we need him? He’s just helping them because he’s hoping
that Elena will appreciate him. He is still more than a little in
love with her. Also, even though he’s being nice to Stefan and all,
if something were to happen he might be a little sad, but he would
get over that quickly, because Elena would go back to HIM. COME ON!
Who can argue that he WOULDN’T like Elena back in his arms? IDK, I’ve
just always liked Stefan, and the thought of anyone else with Elena
is a :’( sad day for me. Plus Mutt, yeah he is nice most of the time
but he had too high of expectations on their part. He expects them
to be perfect, and when they do the best that they can, he gets all
irritated. Like with Elena, when they broke up, he said something
like, “This better not be about that new guy, Stefan.” Elena did lie
to him, but only because she didn’t want to hurt his feelings. Then
later he gave her that snobby comment about the whole world revolving
around Elena Gilbert. He expected her to be perfect in the sense
that, basically she wouldn’t date anyone else because he was ’so
perfect’ ugh, anyway, she did her best not to hurt him, but we all
know (the old) Elena Gilbert, and we know that she can’t help herself
so Mutt just needs to accept that and just let it go! Well, that is
how I started hating Mutt, Elena was my favorite first, and she
was hurt by Mutt then, and she still feels bad for it probably
because of that one comment.
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Hi everyone, I’ve been reading your comments and they are all awesome. I wanted to say is that I think Matt is a sad character. He only sticks around for the off chance that Elena will have a falling out with Stefan. He is never too far away and is there when she needs him but does it only for himself selfishly and to be in her good graces. I think he tries too hard to be unselfish like Stefan which comes out as pathetic. Anyways I am a total bad boy DAMON fan and desperstley hope him and Elena get together.
@Tara, you are soooooooooooooo right on Mutt being as totally sad character. I totally hate him, and if someone has to die, I nominate him! However, I have to disagree on the D/E part. I REALLY DESPERATLY want Bonnie and Damon! You can tell by my comments. If Mutt is gonna die, I want them to be together, I want them to be together regardless!
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@addie, totally DON’T agree. I’m not partial to Matt at all, like you said he’s just there but, I don’t think he is any of the things you said. While I think he wishes him and Elena works out, and in other circumstances would still want her, he understands that she’s with Stefan….and more than that; he respects it. I also think maybe this comes from a nice place, he’s confused about Elena being with a vampire, and all the bad stuff that has happend in the town since they (vamps) have been there. Proof that Matt has excepted S/E’s relationship; 1. he went with her to rescue him from the well. 2. He didn’t tell about Stefan being a vamp (whole tyler scene in hut) 3. He’s going to rescue them
The list can go on
Everything Matt said about Elena in the beginning of the book was completely and utterly true! No doubt about it. She was full of herself, she was selfish, she was rude! It would hurt her feelings if he said it now, but it shouldn’t have been much of a shock then. Plus, he said that right after she broke up with him for another guy who she knew absolutely nothing about and went after him just because his mysterious look. If I was Matt in that situation I would feel the same exact way!! She left him for another guy she hardly knew….and barely told him!
Where do you see that Matt has tried to make them be perfect? I have never seen that, we must be reading different books!!! I can’t even say that Matt pushes them to be better ever! He is always there for all the friends when they need it, and will help them out in any situation no matter how creepy.
I’m not trying to stick up for Matt, I don’t really care about him…I just don’t know where your thoughts on these things came from. I’m suprised actually I never thought of Matt that way, and I don’t think he is portrayed like that at all.
OMG i am sooooo exited about shadow souls!!!!!!!!!!! That teaser was sooo goood!!!!!
@Ashleylovez, IDK! Maybe I\’m making up exuses, but all I know is that I HATE MATT!!!!! grrrrrrrrr… he should just drop dead, lets face it, if he did, the whole story would be 10X better.
I agree with you Ashleylovez. Except for the fact you are a Stefan/Elena fan and I am a Damon/Elena fan you could have been writing my exact thoughts. I don\’t care particularly about Matt either just don\’t see him as anything but a good friend to everyone in the books. And though I do believe he still has feelings for Elena I believe he has accepted the idea that she is with Stefan I mean he says it repeatedly to Damon in Nightfall.
@Tara I sooooooooooooooooooooooooo agrreeeee with Tara on Matt!! He always do things for Elena, but she always belong to someone else! He sometimes broke my heart….
But i hope he can move on with his life and find a girl who he will love her and she will love him back….
I got a question, and i wish someone can answer me….
In Nightfall, in the first chapters of the book, he went to some Electric-shop (I mean Damon) and he bought a Video-Camera…
And when he faced Elena and Matt, and made them do things together, he recoreded them via the Video-Camera. Right?
But, I didn\’t get the point! Why he did that? Is there anything i missed? \’Cuz I didn\’t get why?
@Reem, he video taped them because he was going to show Stefan that video of her and Mutt. It would break his heart to see Elena about to have sex with another guy right there. That is why he did that, but keep in mind, he was possessed at that time.
@Ashleylovez, I’m sorry for yelling at you earlier, I just totally hate Mutt. He is just… ugh! I don’t know how to explain my thinking, he’s just… I just hate him!
~A
I think why Bonnie and Damon aren’t together (yet) is becuase they are sort of afraid to be together. Not so much afraid actually, just, um, they feel like they CANT. Have you ever liked someone that you felt like you cant like them? Like if they dated your best friend and then they broke up with your best friend and now your best friend is heart broken but you like them? It’s sort of like that, but different. I think Damon thinks that he cant be with Bonnie because of Elena. He likes Elena so he cant run after another girl before getting what he’s now after first and Bonnie is after Mutt so he can’t go when she’s already after someone. And Bonnie feels like she cant be with Damon because of Mutt. She likes him and he likes her and she doesn’t like Damon as much and Damon is already preoccupied, so she cant go to him when he’s busy with Elena (am I making sense to you guys?). Well my thinking is always weird, so if im not making sense, tell me and I will (try to) explain it better.
~A
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@Addie i don’t think damon feels that way for bonnie. if Damon liked Bonnie I don’t think he’d be afraid to go after her. I think Damon only saves bonnie because she is childlike, and that shows that in a way he does care about humans. In the tree scene in nightfall the only reason he didn’t save her is because he was possessed. Sorry if this is confusing, tell me and I’ll explain better.
Chantelle, you can email too and Ill explain the E Book
DAMON AND ELENA!!!!! Maybe the author will have stefan die and damon and elena will end up together.
@addie, lol it’s okay you weren’t yelling…just aggresively typing ! haha. but me too, and I don’t mean it in a rude way, I just don’t think Matt is a bad guy. But I honestly don’t really care about him, he’s just there, either way the story will go on.
I agree that if Damon wanted Bonnie he would go after her, and she would probably swoon over his every word. She is easily convinced and if he wanted her HE’D HAVE HER!! Atleast that’s my thinking, who would refuse Damon…other than Elena NO ONE! I don’t think theres anything that’s holding them back from a relationship other than the fact that they don’t like each other in that way…or atleast Damon doesn’t like her that way. I also agree that because Bonnie is so childlike everyone feels like they need to come to her recuse, all the boys included. Does anybody else feel that none of the boys like Bonnie like that? I don’t even think Matt does, I just think he feels like he needs to protect her…and probably feels pressure to move on from Elena.
Honestly, I think Damon wants what he can’t have…which is why he wants Elena. Well atleast that was the reason at first 100%, I think all of us can agree on that. But its hard for me to tell if Damon’s feeling are real or just a product of Elena’s aura and his desire to have all things Stefan has. I think I said it better in another comment but I feel when Damon is nice he is always making up for something after the fact, while Stefan is nice just to be nice. Also was (not sure if I would say still is) only willing to sacarfice others for himself, while Stefan will only sacafrice himself for others.
I dont agree with the above comments. If we can all remember when Elena turned Vampire she wanted Damon. He never though took advantage of that fact. He could have easily kissed her and had his way with her, but he didn\’t. There are many times throughout all the books I have noticed Damons love for Elena. As he said in Nightfall \\\”he doesnt want her for a one night bleeder\\\” :O)
Also, Damon has sacrificed himself many times for Stefan and Elena. Remember when Stefan was caught by the school and Damon and Elena ran to him, Damon turned into a wolf and took out the people holding Stefan. Then there was the time when he was given a free pass from Katherine to go with her, he didnt have to die. He choose though to die with Elena and Stefan. You also have when Klaus came back, he came back to help Stefan, if it wasnt for Damon they would all be dead on that field. Damon may have started as a selfish person but so did Elena. She used people and took advantage of people. Elena changed just as Damon has.
lol i totally agree with Dicey! I have no idea why Stefan would be favored by anybody (no offense to any Stefan/Elana or Damon/Bonnie fans!) but i feel that L.J would have wasted the point of writing another two books (nightfall and shadow souls) if the two dynamic duo ended up like picture perfect yet again. I mean Stefan and Elana just seem kinda like they have puppy love. you know like little elementary school crushes. What’s the point in hiking up all the fans with this juicy teaser just to put Stefan and Elana back together again? the idea doesn’t seem to fit in my mind. Stefan has no idea what it’s like to loose! Damon knows loosing like he knows his own name! Stefan only THINKS he knows what it’s like. And need i say but L.J does disappoint? How do we know that where Stefan is that there’s no one there who cares? what if someone (a girl vampire maybe) helps Stefan out. then he’s have someone, Elana would have Damon, and Bonnie would have Matt. idk it’s just a guess. Because I think Damon and Elana would be real not just smoke and mirrors like Bonnie and Damon would be.
yeah i agree with christine about the whole bonnie/damon thing i highly doubt that will happen after reading this. this clearly shows that damon really loves elena, i mean i havent even read a scene with bonnie and damon that shows any sign of damon loving bonnie. well at least how much i have read so far.
@Addie Ohh thats it? Now i got it! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
and yes, ofcourse i know he was possessed, but i was wondering about that part of the story! Thanks once again!
@Missy I sooo agree with ur point! Its true what u r saying…
@izzy…i too did not read a scene of damon and bonnie where there is anything going on between them,no chemistry,flat!
if i did see anything between these 2 i would have said,ok bonnie and damon,but i still say damon and elena!!!
@missy…i agree with u 100%.damon has shown himself as a completely different character from the start as apposed to what he was as a bad brother vampire.to elena , and the others he has shown a different damon but especially to elena.it’s just when he’s with elena u can feel something,but all in all it is an emotional rollercoaster!
BTW…matt should be with bonnie, that is, if one of them is not killed off…JMO!
also,what’s the use of having all this chemistry with elena,and then ending up with some1 else?what happens to that chemistry?will they see it through or just let it fizzle out?
@christine, theres one big reason I can think of why LJS would write 3 more books right around the time they get picked up for a tv pilot….MONEY. It may not have even been her idea, most likely her publishers. And who knows they may be nice people but we all know they just wants to milk her like a cow for money. That’s how the business works, that’s why I’m somewhat disapointed in this new triolgy. It feels like the focus is more on the money rather than the integrity of the books.
I thought about the comment I made about Damon and how he sacarfices others for his good and I think it applies more to the show than the books, because I agree Damon has shown his loyalty serveral times.
trying to put bonnie and damon in a emotional level is just crazy guys c\\\’mon…theres never being feelings involved with those two, so he kissed her, he kissed page, deniss, rachel and that girl from ss who i cant remember her name, there was never any feelings between db, or anything that bonnie said that it was BAANG deep, not even like M/B. MB are by far more deep than DB ever weree. sooo delusional much? lol
not even a linee of emotional romantic feelings involved, forcing DB in two books would be simply CHEAPEN the story, and her writing. personally i think if s/e are the endgame damon should just do what he does best walk away, do you seriously want bonnie to be a second-hand table? c\\\’mon…i dont like her but even myself wouldnt want that kind of ending for her.
well, I know I’ve made it clear I am a Damon/Elena supporter, But I don’t dislike Stefan I actually like Stefan he’s a great guy I just have always enjoyed the ‘fire’ that seems to be between Damon and Elena. They had sooooo many near misses in the earlier books. I mean there was always something between them that neither one of them seemed to fully understand. The fact that Damon got so fixated on her and whether it started because of his feud with Stefan or not I don’t think that’s where it ended up. I mean in one of the first two books Stefan tells Elena he would leave if he thought Damon would follow him but he didn’t think he would any more because of Elena.
Then how Elena made the comment that she would have let him kiss her if he tried and she knew it wasn’t any influence he was using on her just the wildfire attraction between the two of them (this was after he jumps of Carolines roof with her after she attempted to retrieve her diary) Then the fact that he got the diary back for her. I mean it would have worked more to his benefit if he had let it get read and it would have taken Stefan out of the picture but he didn’t do that. I think that not only shows his feelings for Elena but the fact that he still cares for Stefan. I don’t know if it will come out in the new trilogy or not but Damon has always seemed convinced that Elena was meant to be his and that they belonged together. That feeling has to come from some where.
Yes he has. He’s shown his loyalty to everyone. He is the one who always has to clean up the mess, pretty much. He had to help Stefan with the whole Klaus situation; he had to save Bonnie from the car when the trees attacked them (BTW she called him to save ALL of them from the trees, and he swooped down and saved ONLY HER. That’s gotta count for something, I mean, COME ON! Then he refused to take her to a modern hospital because he wanted to care for her BY HIMSELF, and he wouldn’t let Mrs. Flowers take care of her either, for the same reason.); he had to pull off all the malach on Elena, and many other things.
I really want B/D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If Bonnie would mature she’d be on his level and it would make it easier for them to be together. Mutt should die so that they can be together. He doesn’t even matter to the storyline anyway. HE DOES NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, why does he matter? That’s what I don’t get! I hate him! Why should he be in the story if he doesn’t count for anything?! That is why I strongly think he should be killed off. He doesn’t do anything but stand there and look “pretty”. Everyone else plays a big role in the books: Damon is the really strong vampire brother who is there to help them (sometimes) and make the story so much more interesting. Stefan is the vampire brother who is there to love Elena and protect the town. Bonnie is there to help the town with her psychic powers and be Elena’s friend. Merideth is there for encouragement to her friends helping the town, and to be Elena’s friend. Elena is there to help the town and love Stefan and protect her friends. Matt…? Who knows what he’s there to do? I certainly don’t, that is why he should get killed off. I remember in a post severel months (or a little more than a year) ago, someone said that LJ said that at the end of the series someone WAS GOING TO DIE. Since Matt does nothing, and everyone else has a HUGE part, I nominate him, even if I didn’t have a good reason (which I still sort of don’t) I still nominate him.
~A
As most of you know I definitely agree with all of you who don’t see any chemistry between Damon and Bonnie. I mean Bonnie has said she thinks he’s gorgeous but she has also admitted an attraction to Matt, Alaric and even Stefan.I just don’t see it. I agree with whoever else said it because I said it myself, L.J.S. putting Damon with Bonnie after the way the first books have read would not make any sense at all. I think the books read more toward a Matt/Bonnie relationship. And frankly, as much as I want Damon to have Elena and or have a HEA I would rather seem him walk away alone as diaa said earlier than to end up with Bonnie because it wouldn’t be believeable to me. JMO
@Kayla, so you would actually want the best character to walk away alone and bitter again? That doesn’t make sense to me. BTW, if something huge happened that made sense to put them together, would you be okay with it then? Just out of curiosity… :-/
~A
@Kayla, agreed.
I think the reason it WON’T be Matt to be killed off IS because the other characters play such a big part (in my opinion he plays a part too though.) LJS wants it to be shocking and rock the friends world. Killing Matt would obviously be devestating to the friends but, he’s a normal human with no powers, so it wouldn’t throw them off completely. If Stefan, Bonnie, or Damon died the friends world would be ROCKED, losing such a quintessential character would really change their lives.
I think Matt is important in his own way. He is there for support, and is that sense of normality for the girls. The have all know him for years and he is always there for them. I love how even as a mere mortal, he is always willing to risk his life for the friends—hell, he has tired to fight Damon a couple times! Matt is the rock, he will always be there. Although he has no 6th sense or inhuman power, Matt is a big part of the story as well, he has shown his loyalty and I always give him an A+ for effort.
Bonnie + Damon not believable…..Matt + Bonnie likely and somewhat believable. I don’t want Bonnie and anyone to be honest. I continue to say she is too much of a little girl…for all the boys!!
What could possibly happen that is so big that Damon & Bonnie being together is believable and a possibility?! Nothing, unless LJS changes the whole feel of the books and writes nothing but Damon & Bonnie for the next two books. Which from the spoilers I heard is not the case. It’s not likely and way to forced.
I agree Ashley!
@Addie.do u know something we don’t?are u going 4 a damon bonnie thing because that’s probably what’s going to happen?all of us D/E S/E fans shouldn’t get our hopes up too high?hmmmmm….but however it goes,i hope they all have a happy ending!
DAMON AND ELENA,always!!!
I gotta say, I want Delena to be end game, they seem the most compatible, i will be annoyed if Bamon are end game.
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I was just thinking this morning, one thing Damon can’t resist is a good challenge. He loves challenges. Bonnie is a sort of challenge. He said it himself: he said that it was a challenge to take care of her in that tub scene in Nightfall. It was a challenge not to look. You know. Bonnie is full of challenges to keep her safe. It’s a challenge for Damon to keep her alive his way, because he doesn’t know what medicines he should give her or how much blood to give her to save her but not change her. He also needed to do something about the tree poison. Since Damon loves challenges, and Bonnie IS a challenge, they are very compatable. Challenger meets challenge. Perfect match. Cant deny the facts.
~A
@Addie, I don’t see Bonnie as a challenge for Damon at all. She would have him in a heart beat. The challenge is Elena for Damon. And to your earlier question yes indeed I would rather see Damon ALL ALONE than see him end up with Bonnie. Whether it makes sense to you or not that’s how I personally feel. It’s not that I don’t want Damon to have a HEA of course I do but NOT with Bonnie. It just would not be believeable to me. Like i said in an earlier post I can only go by what I read and NOTHING has lead me to believe a Damon/Bonnie ending. I’m not saying L.J.S. wont go there I’m just saying there is insufficent evidence to support such a relationship. It would not make sense to convince readers Damon is in love with ELena and vice versa just to have him end up with Bonnie. JMO
@kayla…my thoughts,exactly!!!
Ok.. Got a quick question for y’all…
What do u prefer the most
TVD the books? >> TVD the series?
@Reem…both,i guess,but each of them in a different way.with the books and the series i m soooooooo enjoying the damon and elena relationship!!!and that’s just getting more and more interesting as they continue…..
@ Reem
The t.v. series has strayed quite far from the books imo, but even so I am enjoying the series perhaps more than the books. The tv series is aimed at a wider audience and is not geared so much toward a teen, or pre-teen audience as is the books – so there is more adult content in the tv series.
For a D/E shipper, like myself, the t.v. series is now going to be focussing more on the D/E part of the love triangle, now that the tomb has been opened and Katherine is not in there. I am hoping that the series will show Damon getting over his Katherine obsession, (which is not really evident at all in the books,) and focus in on Elena romantically. Apparently, we are promised their first kiss in Season 2. Can’t wait for that one!!!
I am hoping that Shadow Souls and the other two remaining books in the new trilogy, will give us some good D/E interaction, as the above teaser might suggest, as long as LJS doesn’t drift of course with a lot of freaky sci-fi stuff and keep it focussed, steamy and romantic – not wierd.
Well, I agree with you @Delena , thats soo true!
But…That means u loved the show more than the books?
jennifer lopez wore what was basicly a cellophan dress at the 2010 oscars!!! : )
Well, it is a good possability that Damon can end up with Bonnie. After all, a lot of unexpected things happened throughout the books: 1) we found out Katherin was the one wreaking havoc; 2) Elena just dropped off the face of the planet so unexpectedly it’s like, “What?!?!?!?!” 3) Elena went to Damon in her first awakening as a vamp; 4) Tyler turned into a werewolf; 5) Klaus came when everyone thought he was dead. 6) Elena just dropped BACK on the face of the planet just as unexpectedly as when she dropped OFF the face of the planet; 7) Elena grew WINGS;
Caroline got pregnet with PUPPIES.
Suddenly, a Bonnie and Damon realationship seems a lot more believable. I mean none of us could’ve seen those things stated above happen (unless you’re Bonnie McCullough). So it’s a lot more believable that those things or someone suddenly turning into a chicken or something. Don’t you agree?
~A
After reading through the comments, some things have come to my attention…
What would be the point of LJS releasing this trilogy starring Damon if she just wanted Elena to end up wit Stefan? That would be totally pointless if you think about it. The revival of a series just to leave it with the same lame ending is a waste of time and energy. However, it was said that these books are supposed to be a standalone trilogy, yet they seem more like a continuation of the original story…Oh well…
As for the Bamon fans, even if they do somehow end up together, it would be kind of a mismatched hookup. I mean Bonnie’s just like a puppy (or kitten) and Damon is like a wolf or tiger, so experienced and overbearing that I just can’t seen her handling him effectively. Besides, the last time I checked…She was afraid of him…and the fact that she (and Stefan…who is currently on my “People I want to bitchslap” list) shunned him after the bathtub scene puts her in my bad books -_-
And about Bonnie being a challenge…Uh no…I don’t think so…She basically thinks Matt, Stefan and Damon are all hot. So all Damon would have to do to get to her, is just to dazzle her off her feet by being super nice (and hot) as far as I’m concerned. Challenge done…Elena however, that’s another story. She’s been resisting him from book 1 (which is a damn long time people). Plus, let’s not forget that he kissed Bonnie at the party, if she was so ‘challenging’ then how’d he be able to get so far with her. Hell, she was swept off her feet by his prescence before she knew who he really was.
I have said before that Elena is the only one who actually tries to make any effort in understanding him, so yes, she truly cares for him. Him just ending up with Bonnie is like getting second best. I could care less if it was an alternative for SE, he’s still going to be heartbroken over losing Elena anyways, so can Bonnie really handle helping Damon get over his grief because her maturity level tells me otherwise -_- It’s about damn time that Damon finds true happiness and I see that as him and Elena actually hooking up.
Also, the fact that Damon is continuously losing his memories is starting to bug me. I mean seriously, it’s like after any amount of progress he makes with Elena, he forgets all about it and they’re back to square 1 once again. Isn’t that totally frustrating? o_O Jeez…It’s makes everything so complicated. But on the bright side…even though he forgets all of those moments, they will remain embedded in her heart and she’ll never forget them…so she will eventually fall in love with him probably without him even realizing it
So far, the perfect couples I see are:
Damon x Elena
Matt x Bonnie
Alaric x Meredith (actually, I just find them kind of weird >_> but hey, they work so whatever)
Stefan is a complicated and sad story. And I mean sad in the pathetic sense -_- No seriously, it’s like he has no alternative options. Over the 5 centuries that he’s been grieving the loss of Katherine he’s been denying himself of love. Jeez, I really don’t know what to say about him
I mean even as a delena fan, I just pity him (sigh). He’s going to be beyond heartbroken if he loses Elena, so the only option for him is death or miraculously (and high unlikely may I add) finding someone else. I mean we have to break the cycle somehow. Katherine did say that she liked Stefan best afterall. But as I said some time previously, Stefan doesn’t NEED Elena…he NEEDS to get a life!!! XD
I think I read somewhere here that there’s supposed to be a Delena kiss in season 2 or something? o_O Why the hell is it all the way in season 2?!!! Actually, how are we so sure anyways, we’re not even finished with season 1 -_- Jeez…I just hope it’s a mutual thing and not forced…because I’ll just be pissed. I think it’s kind of obvious that all Delena moments are steamy so…the show would just amplify that by like…a thousand!!!!
DELENA FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!
PEACE!!!!!
After reading through the comments, some things have come to my attention…
What would be the point of LJS releasing this trilogy starring Damon if she just wanted Elena to end up wit Stefan? That would be totally pointless if you think about it. The revival of a series just to leave it with the same lame ending is a waste of time and energy. However, it was said that these books are supposed to be a standalone trilogy, yet they seem more like a continuation of the original story…Oh well…
As for the Bamon fans, even if they do somehow end up together, it would be kind of a mismatched hookup. I mean Bonnie\’s just like a puppy (or kitten) and Damon is like a wolf or tiger, so experienced and overbearing that I just can\’t seen her handling him effectively. Besides, the last time I checked…She was afraid of him…and the fact that she (and Stefan…who is currently on my \”People I want to bitchslap\” list) shunned him after the bathtub scene puts her in my bad books -_-
And about Bonnie being a challenge…Uh no…I don\’t think so…She basically thinks Matt, Stefan and Damon are all hot. So all Damon would have to do to get to her, is just to dazzle her off her feet by being super nice (and hot) as far as I\’m concerned. Challenge done…Elena however, that\’s another story. She\’s been resisting him from book 1 (which is a damn long time people). Plus, let\’s not forget that he kissed Bonnie at the party, if she was so \’challenging\’ then how\’d he be able to get so far with her. Hell, she was swept off her feet by his prescence before she knew who he really was.
I have said before that Elena is the only one who actually tries to make any effort in understanding him, so yes, she truly cares for him. Him just ending up with Bonnie is like getting second best. I could care less if it was an alternative for SE, he\’s still going to be heartbroken over losing Elena anyways, so can Bonnie really handle helping Damon get over his grief because her maturity level tells me otherwise -_- It\’s about damn time that Damon finds true happiness and I see that as him and Elena actually hooking up.
Also, the fact that Damon is continuously losing his memories is starting to bug me. I mean seriously, it\’s like after any amount of progress he makes with Elena, he forgets all about it and they\’re back to square 1 once again. Isn\’t that totally frustrating? o_O Jeez…It\’s makes everything so complicated. But on the bright side…even though he forgets all of those moments, they will remain embedded in her heart and she\’ll never forget them…so she will eventually fall in love with him probably without him even realizing it
So far, the perfect couples I see are:
Damon x Elena
Matt x Bonnie
Alaric x Meredith (actually, I just find them kind of weird >_> but hey, they work so whatever)
Stefan is a complicated and sad story. And I mean sad in the pathetic sense -_- No seriously, it\’s like he has no alternative options. Over the 5 centuries that he\’s been grieving the loss of Katherine he\’s been denying himself of love. Jeez, I really don\’t know what to say about him
I mean even as a delena fan, I just pity him (sigh). He\’s going to be beyond heartbroken if he loses Elena, so the only option for him is death or miraculously (and high unlikely may I add) finding someone else. I mean we have to break the cycle somehow. Katherine did say that she liked Stefan best afterall. But as I said some time previously, Stefan doesn\’t NEED Elena…he NEEDS to get a life!!! XD
I think I read somewhere here that there\’s supposed to be a Delena kiss in season 2 or something? o_O Why the hell is it all the way in season 2?!!! Actually, how are we so sure anyways, we\’re not even finished with season 1 -_- Jeez…I just hope it\’s a mutual thing and not forced…because I\’ll just be pissed. I think it\’s kind of obvious that all Delena moments are steamy so…the show would just amplify that by like…a thousand!!!!
DELENA FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!
PEACE!!!!!
So I’ve been following the comments for the past few days and this is what has come to my attention…
What would be the point of releasing an all new trilogy starring Damon to only end it with the same lame ending from the previous 5 books? If that happened, then the whole thing would seem pretty pointless or just a way to get attention for the books since the show just came out.
On a side note to the Bamon fans…The thing about Bonnie being a challenge? Uh nope…Sorry, not buying that at all. If you wanna backtrack let’s do that. At the party, Damon kissed Bonnie and she was pretty much smitten with him (before she found out what he was really like). Now if she was so much of a challenge, how would he be able to reach so far with her in less than 1 day? Elena is the real challenge here people. I mean he has been trying to get her for the past 5 books…Besides, if he really wanted Bonnie, all he’d have to do is act super nice and show off his hotness and she’ll be all over him like butter on bread lmao =P (She does think that Matt, Stefan and Damon are all hot apparently >_>)
I just find those 2 together totally mismatched. I mean seriously, she is like a puppy (or kitten) whilst Damon is like a wolf or tiger, he’s so experienced and his prescence would be overbearing, so can she really handle that? Since the last time I checked, she was afraid of him -_- Seriously people…It’s like people only like DB because they’re rooting for SE.
Damon has been in love with Elena for the longest while and him ending up with Bonnie would just be like getting the second best or a consolidation prize. He’d be heartbroken over losing her and I don’t think that Bonnie with her level of maturity can handle that IMO. He needs a strong individual and that’s Elena, someone who can stand up to him not someone who needs to be cuddled like a preschooler -_-
It’s about damn time that Damon finally gets the person he wanted. Look at the whole fiasco with Katherine, do we really want history repeating itself with Stefan getting Elena in the end? Not on my watch. Besides, the fact that Bonnie (and also Stefan, who is currently on my “List of People I Want to Bitch Slap”) shunned after he pretty much saved her life with the whole bath tub scene puts her in my bad books -_-
As far as I’m concerned, she has Matt so Damon is off limits!!!
Elena now has truly made the effort to understand Damon and is basically the only person who he has truly ever opened himself up to. The passion between them is evident people…THEY BELONG TOGETHER!!!! >_<
edit for the last paragraph***
i meant to add after which millions of people will watch—
then read the books and be left wondering what happens AFTER Elena comes back.
and then continued the normal way I said it.
Thanks, just didn’t want you guys to be reading and be like *uh whaaattt is she talking about* lol.
@Dicey, I totally agree with you about Damon losing his memories I was just bitchin about that the other day. Every time him and Elena have a good moment he loses the memory of it and from the spoilers it looks like that will be the case in the new book as well. It is BEYOND FRUSTRATING. I mean Elena still has the memories which is good, but I hope eventually Damon gets ALL of his memories back too. I’m ready for Damon and Elena to have their time together.
@Addie, yes the books do get a bit far fetched and the unbelieveable happens, but the main story line is the love TRIANGLE that exist between Damon/Elena/Stefan so thats why I say Bonnie and Damon getting thrown together isn’t believeable. It would just make the first 5 books a waste. And considering there are only 2 books left (at least at the moment) and the first 8 chapters of one of them suggest the love triangle is still the focus……it would seem quite a stretch to suddenly end with a Damon/Bonnie HEA in the last book.
@ Dicey
Yes, yes, YES. I so totally agree with you about the memory loss thing. I had forgotton about that and how irritating that is. As an ardent D/E shipper, it is as you say totally frustrating so see D/E make some emotional progress in the relationship just to have it wiped out by Damons memory loss immediaely after.
This is why I am starting to lean more toward the tv series at the moment because the direction is more predictable. Season 1 so far has all been about establishing the Damon and Stefan relationship. Now that Damon knows Katherine is not in the tomb and never was (a guard let her escape) she has been around but not bothered to contact Damon. He now has to forget her, and his obsession with her, and establish a connection with Elena. One of the Producers of the show, I think it was Julie Plec, says they want to take their time for this relationship between Damon and Elena to really develop. In the show Elena has some real trust issues to deal with as far as Damon is concerned, primarily his lifestyle, attitude etc. etc. and not the perfect boyfriend that Stefan is – hence no kiss between them until Season 2. BUT, I think THAT episode will be well worth the wait.
I can only say that I hope the end of this teaser above is also worth the wait.
maby damon wiil gain all the memories back that he lost when he turns into a human..and then thier relationship will get stronger
@Delena, I think I have to agree with you as much as I love the books I think the show is better. Mostly I think because it is a bit more adult in content and we get lots of Damon. He steals the show and frankly, he’s the high point in the books as well. I mean I enjoy Elena and Stefan as well, but Damon has such a presence and he can be down right hilarious sometimes. I think that is one of many reasons I prefer Damon to Stefan, Stefan is soooooo serious all the time and way too perfect. Damon has a definite fun side and the show captures that perfectly.
I haven’t been on in awhile and had alot of reading to catch up some points I’ll weigh in on: I totally agree Damon/Bonnie makes NO SENSE.
Matt IS a nice guy and good friend, if anyone in the books is totally annoying I’d have to say it’s Bonnie. Aside from Caroline and Tyler she is probably my least favorite character.
Damon definitely had feelings for Elena BEFORE she got the new aura, I don’t think that has anything to do with his love, just the sexual attraction he now has.
I wouldn’t call Stefan pathetic, I like Stefan alot, he’s just a bit too perfect, it makes his character boring.
I too believe the show coming out is what prompted L.J.S to writing more books but for whatever reason she did it I’d like to believe she’s giving Damon his ‘air time’ we he deserves as do all the Damon/Elena fans and I know there are alot of US out there. Here’s to hoping for a different ending this time, Stefan had Elena for 17 years (considering how the original books ended and the gap in between.) Time to give us Damon fans a HEA.
Alot of what I’m reading has me seriously worried that Damon may be the one killed off in the last book. I read that L.J.S said something about theres nothing like the bad boy doing the right thing in the end. First off: That would NOT be a happy ending for anyone who is a Damon and or Damon/Elena fan as I am. Secondly, That would piss me off beyond belief to write 3 books based around D/E just to kill him off. I don’t give a crap if it’s to redeem him or not, hell in my opinion Damon hasn’t done anything terrible enough to have to die to be redeemed. Him turning human will probably be bad enough for him unless it lands him Elena.
It’s a hard place to be in because I actually like Stefan and have enjoyed his and Elena’s relationship however, I have been an avid Damon fan from the beginning and would truly like to see him and Elena wind up together. I don’t understand why L.J.S would put all those comments in even from the first books
amon saying ‘he and Elena BELONG together” ‘She was MEANT to be his”Not to mention all his comments about how “he would have her in the end” and as many have mentioned the ‘dumbsupper’ that clearly suggested Damon would be the one Elena married. Why do all that foreshadowing for nothing. Because Elena also makes her share of comments about ‘how she is DRAWN to Damon’ “how something was building between them that scared her with it’s power” There ‘wildfire attraction’ not to mention how she seems to forget Stefan whenever she is with Damon. Sorry to ramble I just got really pissed off reading that and worrying Damon would get killed off.
I don\’t know how that smiley face made it in…I sure didn\’t put it there on purpose!!
For all of you who are not getting into the new series as you did the original VD\’s because of the differenece in characters, time and writing style, you do need to remember that this is a writer who pretty much quit writing for like ten yrs. LJ Smith has said that she \”never really left The Vampire Series\” and that no one should think that the new series is \”same-old\” as the originals.
Lets face it 10 yrs from now I will probably write and think differently than what I am doing right now. Yeah, I know and agree there is a major difference between the the books but you need to put it aside because the quality is still there. It is now from someone who has gone through hurendous changes in her life and has changed herself both mentally and spiritually. To loose yourself enough that your imagination just turned off would be tragic, especially for a writer.
I think LJ started the series again because she never left them, and had a new vision and direction to take them, not because her publishers wanted more money. She intentionally was going to leave Elena dead but because of all of the mail from her her readers(us) she brought her back. I don\’t believe she would have done that to just leave it all behind again.
So lets not beat down the writer to bad because without her we would never have had this wonderful world and characters we all love. I was one of those who were like\”what the heck is wrong with this book\” but then I took a step back reread and took a look at some of her interviews which gave me a whole new perspective on her writing now. The book has changed as she has changed so lets not fault her, but enjoy being back in Fell\’s Church.
Girls! Look, The CW released another sneak peek for the upcoming episode *Few Good Men* If u r intersted, watch it here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tw3Bd7m0cI
And its full of Damon, from what i saw! Yay
@ashleylovez
yes you have a point but why would the publishers give us this teaser just to make her but Elena and Stefan back togather again?I think they’d make more money by having Damon and Elena togather would probably make more money (mainly because there are people who are only reading the book because of show with the hottie Damon
@Reem, I totally watched that! OMG! It is full of Damon! I love me my Damon!
~A
I don’t think anyone was bashing on L.J.S at all. I think we all agree we totally enjoy the books. Just because some of us, myself included like the show better, doesn’t take away from the love of the books. There wouldn’t be a show if it weren’t for the books even if they are changing it up. She may not have left the series in her mind but the fact the new trilogy came up right when the show did suggest it prompted the new trilogy, NOT that I’m complaining I’m glad for Damon to be in the fore front. Actually, I’m loving it. I just hope it ends well for us Damon/Elena shippers.
@Addie OM Holy God! He is soooooo HOT! *Thud* Katherine reallly made him crazy, Right?
I always wonder what the show or the books would be like if there was no Damon?? I won’t watch it or be liking the books like the way i love them now! LoL .
What if they brought someone else instead of (Ian Somerhalder) to be Damon? Do u think we will still be loving Damon? ?
ian somerhalder nails it as DAMON!!!so far i cannot see any1 else playing the role.also,his chemistry with nina is sooooo hot!!!LOL!
luv it…in the coming episodes there will be more damon and elena,so they say.
does any one know what L.J. Smith’s email is?
I have read the book, its good, alot of DE moments. But there are also SE moments, especially toward the end.
I think it says something, when people say Elena would never leave Stefan and Vice versa, and the only way DE can end up together is if Stefan died.
Like seriously?
Thats kinda forced if you ask me.
OMG 3 DAYS I ACTUALLY CANNOT WAIT NOW !
i hope L.J dosent kill damon .. him and elena are meant to be together stefan always gets the girl or is the favourite of the girl. I know stefan has been through a lot but Damon has been through a lot too and has finally found someone he trully trully loves and i dont think L.J should or will stop him from getting Elena. At least .. i really really hope not .
or she will find herself bombarded by a LOT !! of very unhappy insane Delena fans
Including me
Hmm I think Ian had done the most amazing role in his whole life as being Damon. He really impressed me! Cuz i read the books, and damn! He is like the book’s character 100% maybe there r difference, If u read the books, U’ll see that Damon in the books was younger than in the series, and he got Dark-Black eyes, while Damon in the series got a blue-eyes, and I guess thats it. But in the likely-sides, they both r the same, They both r dangerous, Sexy, funny, wear jackets all the time, and so on and on… I don’t think there’ll be any-body will be Damon like Ian, Cuz as u @taznim said he & Nina got something great together, and I won’t def. forget the amazing chemistry between he and his lil brother Stefan (Paul). Both of them r sooo convicing that I’d believe them that they r really brothers !
Good job, Ian and Paul! and I won’t forget def. Nina for making these 3 characters so convicing, *Thumbs up!!* .
@Chantelle, I agree with you. It’s hard not to like Stefan even if he is too perfect and boring IMO. But, Damon does seem to always get the short end of the stick so to speak, Their father preferred Stefan, and apparently Damon was abused by their father, Katherine out and out said she loved Stefan best, and apparently the one person Damon truly,truly loved and was close to was their mother and she died. I feel for him sooooo much. The fact that he is the person he is,(dark, defensive, guarded) is all a result of these things. Now, he has found someone who is bringing out the better ‘man’ in him (him agreeing not to kill unless it’s to protect Elena, Saving Bonnie,Saving Stefan) I believe he loves Elena with his whole heart but as of now any way, he hides it probably from fear of rejection. Some of the things I found significant in the first 8 chapters : The little boy in his head, the fact that child says to ELena “your the nicest person I ever, the most beautiful thing I’ve ever…” I think these are the things Damon keeps inside.
I just felt a connection to Damon from the beginning even when he was a jerk. Being a jerk was all he knew and a defense against ppl. I feel for him, I want him to have something in his life that’s good and pure. He derves that after a life of disappointments. Don’t get me wrong I think Damon revelled in being a vampire because of the power, but I don’t believe he’s been happy.
I also agree Ian is the perfect Damon, he nails the character. And suprisingly the pale blue eyes work to his advantage.
Damon does not and will not settle for second best. He wants the best or nothing at all (i.e. Katherine in the tomb in the third book), so why would he settle for Bonnie when he could have Elena? Damon is one of those characters who will risk losing it all for the one he loves.
LJS has called the whole love thing a /triangle/ not a /rectangle/, thus excluding Bonnie…and Matt.
I heard Damon and Elena (on the show) are going to kiss BEFORE Season 2.
Has anyone figured out all the symbolism involved with the little boy and the boulder and such in Damon\’s mind/soul from the first eight chapters excert in Shadow Souls?
@Carol Ann, 100% what u said! Damon always is 2nd best to everything because Stefan always has to be the perfect one. All of the unfortunate events that happen to him reflect on who he is. I totally feel for him too. Its so sad that the only person he ever could really connect to and count on (his mother) had to die. He definatly deserves someone who will love him for real, not like how Katherin did. Someone to love and care for him truely, however, I don’t think that he will get Elena even though he probably loves her more than Bonnie (I will be the first Bamon fan to admitt that), I think that since Elena is with Stefan they can’t be torn apart. JMO, but I guess if there is a good reason to put them together, I would be okay with it, but I would flip if they just were put together randomly and hurt Stefan.
~A
@Carol I sooooooooo agrreee with u!!
@carol ann where in the series does it say that damon’s father abused him and he loved his mother more than anything? i dont remember anything like that.
has anyone ever thought that maybe shadow souls is a THING? maybe its simply just describing damon’s soul. it’s shadowed, or darkened, by the things he’s done. i think this trilogy is about damon redeeming himself, but he better not die. i am a HUGE damon/elena fan, and, as said before, i dont care if the reason damon dies is to redeem himself or not, he’s never done anything bad enough worth dying.
The term ‘Shadow Souls’ was something Bonnie mentioned while in a trance when they were entering the Hell dimension. It was referring to the outside world where people’s souls were shadowed by (Im guessing) the possession of whatever was taking over people.
It wasn’t really clarified.
@Vampire here you go:
The Awakening, Page 32 (I have the double edition book, don’t know if the page numbers are the same in the single editon) Stefan is reflecting back on when Damon told their father he wasn’t going back to the university “What do you mean you aren’t going back?’ Giuseppe(their father) was usually a fair man, but he had a temper and his elder son(Damon) brought out the ‘violence’ in him.
The Return Nightfall: Page 494 when Elena is doing the wings of redemption on him she says “No more would he endlessly dwell on his own childhood when his father had BEATEN him in drunken rages when he neglected his studies or took up with objectionable women”
The awakening page 134: (just another example of the way their father treated Damon) while thinking of the past, Stefan tells Katherine that his father would have tossed Damon out on the street if it weren’t for Katherines affection for him.
This one is the comment about his mother
The Awakening page 214: “I don’t know when Damon started to hate me, It was always that way, as long as I can remember. Maybe it was because our mother never really recovered from my birth, she died a few years later. Damon LOVED HER VERY MUCH, and I always had a feeling he blamed me.
Hope that helps. It was definitely suggested in The Awakening
but Nightfall laid it out ther plain as day. I would like to add it’s Stefan’s narrative in the Awakening talking of Damon drawing their fathers VIOLENCE. So, it seemed clear Stefan wasn’t on the receiving end of the abuse.
@ Lily
The symbolism of the little boy and the boulder inside of Damon is Damon’s conscience IMO. Whenever Damon does something really bad, like killing someone, he buries it away in the boulder. Kinda like sweeping a mess under the rug, you don’t see it, and can kind of forget about it, but it’s still there. The little boy who is the keeper of secrets and making sure no one can get inside (Damon always has this wall built up around him and never allows anyone to get close to him emotionally, the little boy minding the boulder is probably Damon at some stage of arrested development or when he changed from being good to bad. Elena is trying to befriend the little boy and ultimately get inside the boulder to deal with all the hurt that is inside him, thus healing him. Just my opinion – I’m no therapist doctor. Much to my annoyance, she seems only able to do this when they are in a kissing romantic situation and their minds are connected. It detracts from the romance part, but it’s supposed to symbolise Elena breaking down the walls that Damon has surrounded himself with.
@ Vampire
I don’t believe Damon will die at the end. I think the redeeming part is acheived by Damon sacrifcing himself as a vampire to become a human to save, or rather free Stefan from jail.
@carol ann and delena thanks for explaining
oh and i just thought of something disturbing: we dont really know if damon loves elena. in the first 4 books, damon could have simply wanted her just to be his princess of darkness/queen of shadows and just to have revenge over stefan. it never really said whether he loved her or not. in nightfall he wanted her but he said he knew it was because of her aura. im a HUGE fan a damon and elena, so im freaking out over this right now.
@Ashelylovez, I’m not sure if I was the intent of your comment but I was’nt insinuating Stefan was at fault for Damon’s losses. Merely, that Damon has gotten the short end of the stick. Yeah, Stefan maybe the ‘good’ one but Damon being the way he is started somewhere. That’s why I ‘personally’ believe the things that have happened in his past molded him into who he is. And the explanation about Damon’s love for his mother and his abuse by his father was simply for someone who didn’t remember those particular parts in the books. The bottom line is everyone is going to read the books, choose their favorite, interpet them their own way, and hope for their own vision of Elena’s HEA. For me, that’s Damon. As I’ve stated it’s not out of distaste for Stefan although I do find Stefan a bit boring. Damon is just the one that I gravitate toward while I’m reading and from the looks of it I’m not the only one.
@Vampire, True the words have not come out of his mouth, but I found that it was eluded to. I don’t want to do another book search right now, but I feel pretty confident that in one of the books (first 4) Elena states that Damon loves her (internal thought) and then in Nightfall Stefan eludes to it in his message to Elena in her diary. He says “Damon would never harm you, he loves you, how could he not” I don’t think Stefan would just say that if he didn’t believe it to be true. JMO on these matters other than any facts I put in from the books.
@Ashleylovez, sorry, I forgot to add: The part with Damon’s mom when I made an earlier point it didn’t have anything to do with Damon and Stefan’s relationship even though it maybe relevant. I brought it up to show that’s the only person we have been told without a doubt that Damon loved, via Stefan’s internal monologue.And he lost her. I’ve wondered if the child in his mind isn’t him at the age when his mother passed?
@ashleylovez
No one’s really saying Damon gets Elena because of his past they’re just saying they feel sorry for Damon that Stefan gets everything he wants and Damon has to work for everything. And come on good behaivor? Elena shouldn’t get Stefan AT ALL then. What has she really done to deserve him huh? She been pretty stuck up most of her life and was completely motivated to be the head of her school. That doesn’t sound like the kind of person that Stefan should have. It sounds more like Damon. Not only that but Stefan shouldn’t just be given what ever he wants because he’s a goody two shoes. He has to work for what he wants like everyone else especialy considering how much he wants Elena. Damon has been working harder than him and never has given up. How much you wanna bet if Stefan was in Damon’s position he’d just give up and try for someone else? Just my opinion.
@Christine, I have to agree. That’s how I see it too. In alot of ways that’s why I think Damon deserves her more. Stefan hasn’t changed anything to be with Elena (because he’s already saintly) But, Damon who probably as a result from his past isn’t perfect by any means, is willing to change for someone and become a better person/vampire. Him meeting Elena has 1) kept him around Stefan longer than he has been since he became vampire 2)made him start to care for humans again, like Saving Bonnie and Meredith.3)The old Damon would have taken katherine up on her power trip offer in the tomb, instead Damon was willing to die with Stefan and Elena.4)He’s saved Stefan’s life on at least 2 occasions.5)He vowed to not kill unless it was to defend Elena. That’s just some examples.
I guess what I’m trying to say is I find it appealing and sweet that Damon who has always been on the dark side is started to come out into the light just because of Elena. That’s special to me.
Christine made another valid point too, Elena wasn’t perfect either until she came back as a spirt child. And the fact she kisses Damon and forgets Stefan not only suggest she has strong feelings for Damon, but that she still isn’t perfect.
@Christine…very well said!!!
I just reread my comment and it sound kinda snotty, i totally was not trying to sound like that! Sorry if it came off that way.
@carol ann, I see on other forums also people who without saying it make it seem like Damon should have Elena (lol we’re talking about her like she’s buyable!) because he always has second best. But I don’t think that exactly what you were saying, you’ve given a bunch of explanation thats I actually I agree with.
I’m so contradicting and very torn. I absolutely love Damon, he’s actually probably my favorite character, I just think Elena is better with Stefan. I love most of the character growth that has occured within Damon, but his motives can still be questioned.
@vampire, I think that although Damon never said he loved Elena (and his intentions can be questioned), it’s implied. I think LJS kind of leaves it up for interpretation.
I’m not so convinced that it’s actually Damon thats willing to change, rather than everyone pushing him. He’s made some changes (not killing, humanity) that I feel came with the territory (being in their lives.) IMO it was more of a forced thing, like if he’s going to be around Stefan & Elena he can’t be compromising their beliefs or else they will “drop” him. If that makes sense. The books show a lot of Damon not wanting to come out of his shell, but I think towards the middle of Nightfall is when we really see him changing himself. From the chapters I’ve read in Shadow Souls, it seemed a lttle forced. Elena on the other hand, changed herself. I don’t really think it was the doing of Stefan but rather his influence, which seems like the right way to change. I think my opinion is definitely influencing the way I look at it, IMO in relationships you can never make someone change, or go into it thinking your going to change someone, it comes from that person and how they feel inside.
I’m a little conflicted on this b/c their relationship developed so fast, but I think Stefan worked at establishing a connection with Elena. Although in the TV series, they show that a lot more whereas in the books it all seemed a little rushed. I don’t think Stefan got Elena because of his good behavior. Now that I think about it, it was really Elena who worked her butt of for Stefan.
Sorry I’m rambling, I just can’t seem to organize my thoughts. If anyone can understand the mess I wrote, I loved to hear what you think! Do you guys ever start writing and then go back and read some and say ‘hey wait….maybe that’s not true.’ It’s like I’m constantly in battle with myself! It’s hard for me to have a definite feeling on anything other than Stefan and Elena FTW.
I just wanted to really say thank you to all the people on here. I love chatting and hearing all your opinions, it’s really like an eye-opening experience. A lot times other people see things in a way I never did, it really makes me analyze the books & characters on a different level.
And it’s always good to have people remember the things I don’t!
I’m currently reading another really good book, but has anyone skimmed through the others to jog your memory since Shadow Souls is coming out? I’ve read it a few times and the most recent being 2 months ago, but I read so much it might be nessacary.
Did anyone preorder the book? I preorder from Borders.com, the guys said sometimes they come a day early*fingers crossed*, but if it’s not there by like 12pm Tuesday then I’m going to buy it from Borders (I reserved a copy in case) for the 17.99 (I got it for 10 bucks online) and then read it as much as I can, and when the preordered one comes in I take that book and return with the 17.99 receipt—good plan right!?
@Ashleylovez, I totally get where your coming from. It’s a hard choice Elena has ahead of her. I know I’ve said before I actually like Stefan for Elena too. But, ultimately it’s Damon I want to end up with her. That being said, I don’t want it to be at the cost of Stefan’s life or his misery. So, I don’t know how it will work out. And you didn’t seem snotty in your earlier post, I think sometimes when we get caught up in our own thoughts and are typing away, things don’t come out like we intend. I’ve reread some of my previous post and been like “whoa, I sound like a total B**ch. It’s funny how fictional characters can get ppl so worked up but, I tend to read books that way. I get totally involved and passionate about them.LOL
WOW, lots of comments since I was last on. I can’t believe we only have 2 days left. I am so psyched.
Your right Ashleylovez, sometimes reading other peoples thoughts can make you re- analyze things. I guess for me what’s hard is I’m a total Damon/Elena supporter, but I don’t dislike Stefan either. I know I don’t want either one of them to die in the last book. The only thing I AM totally biased about is no matter what I DO NOT want Damon to wind up with Bonnie, that may seem weird or shallow but it is something I feel adamant about. That just wont work for me.
@Carol Ann I too remembered the abuse comments because I always wondered why Damon’s dad seem to dislike Damon since he was his first born, and a son at that, I wanted to know why? and since it’s not relevant to the story we will proably never know. And why the riff between Damon and Stefan? Apparently that was going on long before the Katherine thing. I hope L.J.S. at least answers this question. Actually, I hope there are several things that get clarified, like did Damon really love Katherine or was it about ‘one upping Stefan’?, Why did Damon start hating Stefan? Why did Damon go after Elena, was it only to get back at Stefan? Though no matter if that’s how it started I don’t believe that has been the case since the second book. I don’t know if she will answer any of these things since not all of them are relevant to the story now but the ’stickler to details’ in me does wonder.
Well, I’m totally rambling we will all have to come on and talk about the book after we read it. I love hearing how other ppl perceive things.
here’s another thing to consider… Damon saw Elena first, BUT it was in crow form. if he looked like himself would she ever have cared about Stefan, because it seems more like a case of the first one she saw she would love forever.
and Damon may not have loved her in the first book but that gave them a chance to get to know each other, Elena was in love with a stranger (Stefan) because she didn’t know what he was like, and Stefan basically fell in love with Elena because she looked like Katherine. D/E were slower to come around and maybe that makes it more meaningful for BOTH of them, even if Elena won’t let herself consider it
@Moonstriker that makes alot of sense. I have to agree with you. That’s how I feel about the D/E relationship it has progressed in a way that is much more ‘realistic’, odd to use that term with the books are about vampires,malach and killer trees, but you get what I’m saying.
I should also say I have pointed out in the past that Damon actually saw Elena first. Obviously, he was drawn to her even faster than Stefan was, probably because Damon was more powerful and had better senses. But, the fact that Damon was right outside Elena’s house that first day suggest he had already sensed her. I also believe, though it was never clarified, that Damon was in the cemetery the night something(katherine) was after Elena,Bonnie and Meredith because Elena said the thought came into her mind to get across the bridge and she mentions something black thrashing in the tree. So Damon was already watching after Elena before he had shown himself to her in his ‘human’ form.
I mean some may argue that point, but seriously, we know from Stefan’s narrative he wasn’t the one who put it in her mind to get across the bridge,and Katherine was what was after them, so the fact the thought came into her mind which was a power Damon possessed and she mentions something black thrashing in the tree(Crow IMO)
@kayla
haha thats how i feel too about Damon and Elena, they’re taking their relationship average for a book with so many mythical creatures.
@Carol Ann
It’s like you’re reading my mind!!! It’s not that I think stefan and Elena are BAD i just would love it more if she chose Damon.
@taznim
thank you ![]()
@ashleylovez
you didn’t sound snotty! an opinion is an opinion! you have every right point out you’re thoughts and you’re thoughts are completely true! you almost made me a stefan fan with some of your previous comments!
I don’t think Damon is forced into the things he’s changing about himself. Damon could just leave if he wanted to. Nothing is keeping him there (except for how he feels for Elena) but ultimately no one is twisting his arm into doing any of the things he has. Nothing forced him to not take Katherines offer to live and leave with her, Nothing forced him to come back to Fells Church with Stefan when Bonnie summoned him(it was clarified at the end of that book Bonnie didn’t really summon Damon too), Nothing made him come back and fight Klaus to save Stefan, Nothing made him save Bonnie from the car, Nothing made him Save Bonnie and Meredith at Carolines, Nothing kept him from taking Elenas blood when she offered it twice in Nightfall, And like I said, ultimately Nothing is forcing him to even stay in Fells Church. All these things suggest to me that Damon is doing all these things with his own free will and out of his love for Elena. And actually Stefan too.
When Elena first saw Damon (human form) in the gym; wasn’t she scared of him but yet somehow weirdly attracted? I wonder how it would have been if it was on different terms, or if she didn’t know Stefan. She’s a pretty strong girl and I wonder if her senses (being scared) alone would make her back off. So I’m not so sure about if she saw Damon first she would be with him, I guess it would depend on if she didn’t run away.
It’s so funny how were talking about it like however saw her first wins. LOL but it’s still sorta the case with the story. In real life a fight usually doesn’t come down to I saw it first! LOL well sometimes thats a tactic used but it never really determines the winner—atleast not in the case of love! Except with these books you never know what might have happend if Elena saw Damon first. Personally, I think she still would have went with Stefan because Damon is obviously the better “villian” for the story. Could you ever picture Stefan as the villian, lol, he’s a freakin saint.
When is Elena supposed to “fall in love with Damon to the same extent as she is in love with Stefan”? Shadow Souls? Midnight?
@ Lily
This is the way they are going with the t.v. series, according to something I read from the producers regarding the rest of this season and the following seasons. Now that Katherine is no longer an issue in Damon’s life (tv series) and Elena and Stefan’s relationship has already been established during this first season, they will now start forming the “love triangle” and ultimately Elena will be in love with both of them.
Shadow Souls also develops the Damon and Elena relationship to the point where there is the love triangle between Damon/Elena and Elena/Stefan.
1 more day…
OMG!!!!!! I LOVE DAMON!! WOOOO!
lol
there where some stories going round that Elena falls in love with Damon…
hmmmm
@lilly
I guess she knows she is in love with Damon in SS, but it doesn’t defer for her love for Stefan. She knows Stefan would understand, because he loves his brother as well.
hi!
good my English is not good but it very well …
in an interview they did to lj smith in Spain said that the new trilogy would be about damon and the relationship is especially bonnie and elena …
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by the way … and there is little to come out in English the book! that lucky … I have to wait half a year qu Sadow souls have in my hands …
ciao amores!
@ashleylovez this isn’t really a matter of first come, first serve. damon would do anything for elena. he wants and loves her just as much as stefan does. i don’t think his intentions are bad. damon is always getting second best. sure he saw katherine second, but what does it matter? he loved her, maybe even more than stefan did, you’d never know. i think it’s time damon got treated fairly. sure he kills people, but that’s because he’s just trying to make the best of what he’s got. he always tries, unlike saint stefan who just gives up and spent centuries in self pity (as said before).
stefan and elena’s relationship was way too rushed. it was like bam! and all of a sudden theyre making out. damon and elena got to actually know each other first. damon and elena have PASSION, which i think stefan/elena are majorly lacking. damon and elena push each other. everyone else is too afraid to push damon. which leads me to the fact that bonnie is too afraid to be with damon.
bonnie is such a brat (JMO) sometimes. she MIGHT have her good moments but with damon she’s a jerk. like when damon saved her life after the tree scene. he got him AND his pride beaten by stefan, and got soaked when he put her in the bath. then he cut himself on the neck and the wrist. he got poison on and in his mouth when he tried to suck it out of her body. he was also willing to take a punch in the face for her. and when she woke up, what did she do? she pushed him away and screamed. BRAT!
i also want to point out something else about damon and elena. in nightfall, when elena is watching damon with shinichi and misao, she was saying that “stefan was her lynchpin but that damon was the fiery breath beneath her wings. However far she went, damon seemed to lure her on just a little farther. And she knew that one day it would be too far…for both of them.” i just wanted to point that little piece of foreshadowing out.
again, this is all just my opinion. damon and elena need each other in a way stefan and elena don’t. i think that stefan and elena’s relationship is the kind teenagers have when they’re fifteen. one says i love you and they both believe it, but really they don’t LOVE each other, they just think they do.
wow i am shocked just 1 day i read the teaser and i loved it <3 it was awesome i cant wait ffor the book that comes out tommorow and to tell the truth i think elena is good for damon and he has become somewhat a better guy then the first time he came along and as for the sibling thing can he help who he truly loves its liking a best frnds boyfrnd u lnow its wrong and u love ur best frnd 100 percent but as hard as u try u cant help it i dont mean to insuilt or act snobby or snooty i dont mean it in a an offewnding way im just stating my opponion btw have n e of u iread night visions also by lj smith same plot but it tell s in the end she went for.. actuallyu in case u havent read it i wont spoil it 4 u but read it ios a good book
hey guys! it’s finally here.
It’s about 11am right now in MD and I’m gonna leave for the bookstore before I have to go to work to pick up the book.
I probably won’t get on here for about 3 days, cus I don’t want to get spoiled with anything from someone who reads faster.
I’ll probably finished in a couple days, I’m a pretty fast reader. I look forward to chatting with you guys later in the week.
LOL it’s best if we all stay off for like a week so everyone can finish without being spoiled!
LOL I didn’t keep my promise, no ones commenting on here with spoilers so it’s okay.
The books okay, it’s hard for me to keep up with all the supernatural elements, and I have had to reread passages but only a few times. I feel theres a lot of filler. In my opinion it’s not much better than Nightfall, but then again I’m only read about the first 250 pages so far.
What do you guys think?!
Is there e-book available yet?? I`m not from USA, so I can`t get this book anywhere!!! Can anybody send me a pdf file of this book???? ![]()
Any spoilers???
p.s. sorry for my english!!
I have to agree with ashleylovez, there is A LOT of filler. I finished it this morning and was left wanting? thats the word to describe it. Not in the terms of wanting more cause it ended great with questions up in the air, but in the sense of eating til your full but stil unsatisfied. I enjoyed the book, it did delve deeper into Damons character and it gave more info on the Kitsune. The new added character of Sage is pretty cool too and how he will fit in to all of this mess. I loved how it ended though, with so many questions and no answers. It will be interesting how they will get answered in Midnight. Only we have to wait like 8 months for it.
hi everybody, I’m new here. I have to wait 14 days, than my book will arrive…argh!!!!
I live in Holland.
Spoilers please! I like to know!! lol
Well, I liked the book pretty well. But, there were ALOT of unanswered questions left by the end of the book. And it left me still not knowing who the hell Elena would end up with. She obviously still loves Stefan big time, but her and Damon definitely had some great moments. Still didn’t see much going on with Damon and Bonnie and what little there was was on Bonnies end and it wasn’t much. We’ll talk more in depth when ppl get done, I’ve got lots of stuff I’d like to throw around with you guys……LOTS of stuff.
haha! that was an interesting book, the end was hilarious
SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Elena said to Bonnie ” I’m here to collect my beloved Damon and Stefan is just helping me.”
That is not a good sign for Stefan! I like this direction… it should keep going.
LOVED the book and can’t wait until the next one. This was probably my favorite one of all the books. It kept me on my toes the entire time — not boring at all. I couldn’t sleep until I finished it last night at midnight. Great read!!!!!
This sucks — I have work and school on Tues, Wed, Thurs, so I’m still not done. I’m on around the 350 mark, maybe a little more. I think by like Sunday we should all be ready to discuss.
I was saying to Team Damon- I feel like Elena is flirting with Stefan. And it’s not as much me saying “Don’t choose Damon” as it is “Don’t choose both” or “Don’t choose one and continue to flirt/hook up with the other.” It’s really bothering me. I mean I always thought Elena was loyal.
I’m trying to stay away until I finish so then I can come bomboard you all with my questions and opinions. LOL
***I meant flirting with Damon. (where I said Stefan)
I haven’t read the book yet….but this triangle does remind me of the movie “Bandits”….lol
anyone remember?
Kate Blanchett has a relation with both Bruce Willis and Billy Bob Thornton. It is fun. Both men mean a lot to her and both have opposite qualities she likes.
maybe I’m evil…lol after all I live in Amsterdam…
This love triangle reminds me of the movie “Bandits”…anyone remember?
In the end Cate Blanchett has a relation with both Bruce Willis and Billy BoB Thornton. She loves both men and both men have opposite qualities she likes.
It’s a fun movie lol…maybe I’m evil…after all I live in Amsterdam…
@Lolly Well, the T.V. series is going it’s own direction so don’t expect much to be like the books. I tend to look at them as two separate entities.
Apparently, Elena is definitely a virgin, but tends to want ppl to believe she’s not?????? Go figure……that’s one I don’t get.
@Moonstriker I totally loved that part among many others. LOL
Well whenever feel comfortable talking about the book let me know I’m dying here!!!!
Hello dear all
Could someone please help me out here?
I live in Europe and no Shadow Souls for us here, at least for a month.
What happened in the motel between Damon and Elena after all???
I am dieing to know
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I have a question for those of you who have read the book.
SPOILER!!!
SPOILER!!!
SPOILER!!!
On page 467 of Chapter 34, what do you all think Damon meant when he was talking to Elena and said “There’s something that everyone has missed, you know…………”? During that paragraph and the next two he starts talking about his past and about what happened between him, his brother and Katherine, and how “Maybe even Stefan has missed it.” Does anyone think he means that Stefan missed picking up on the fact that Damon fell in love with Katherine back then, too, just like he’s in love with Elena now, even though he knows that she loves Stefan, too, just like Katherine did? I hope that just made some sort of sense. Anyhow, if you all don’t think he was referring to how both he and Stefan loved Katherine then and how both he and Stefan love Elena now, what do you all think he meant?
I just finished reading Shadow Souls and I LOVED IT! Although there is a LOT of supernatural events and its a bit hard to keep up and all, but it’s still Very Good. The end made me laugh! All of those people who have read the book knows what I’m talking about! I absolutely LOVE Damon to Death. ;D
@CrimsonInk That is one of many many questions I’m curious about.
@Nora the motel is still a mystery no one but Elena remembers and shes not telling. UGH!!! It apparently wasn’t sex though.
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@crimsonInk I thought it was odd he said it was something everybody has missed including Stefan I thought ‘maybe’ it was that he ‘didn’t love Katherine that would be a twist considering what happened, but ultimately I don’t have a clue. I get stuff wrong all the time. LOL
I loved it. some parts were a bit confusing I thought, where I had to read it a few times to understand, or I think I finally got it.
@Ashleylovez I think Elena was MORE than flirtatious with Damon they had some definite moments, and I loved them all.
I love this book!!! It was absolutely amazing!!! I have stated before that Damon is my most favorite character ever. I really hope that L.J. puts him with Elena at the end of the story. I will really hate it if she just keeps her with boring old Stefan. The chemistry with Damon and Elena is off the charts. They are totally amazing together. I just find it ironic how Elena is supposed to be head over heels in love with Stefan yet she is always making out, kissing, hugging, or falling into Damon\’s arms in this story. I mean Elena even admitted that she doesn\’t really think about Stefan while he is in prison. She says it is too painful. I think there is more to it than that though. I think that it is partially because she really is in love with Damon. Poor Damon. It is like no matter what he does he never gets anything good. Anything that lasts anyway. Damon deserves love. He deserves someone who understands him. Damon has no idea what it is like to be loved. Only his mother has ever loved him truly and she died. Stefan does love him sort of. Elena is the only one who has loved or cared for him since his mother died. He needs Elena more than anything else. I also feel that Damon believes that he doesn\’t even deserve to be loved. That is basically what most people have told him his whole life. I really really reallly hope that L.J. will give Damon the happy ending that he deserves. He has truly worked so hard for it. I LOVE you Damon!!! Here\’s hope for a happy ending for a lot of people\’s most favorite character. DAMON SALVATORE—- As in Savior lol
This is so weird no one knos who elena is goin to pick and since she loves both of them i cant see how she will. Either one of them has to die or she wont pick either of them, if it goes any other way then one of the guys is gonna end up heartbrocken. Lol wouldnt that be funny if in the end she went with matt
@Kayla You’re right, that would be a twist, wouldn’t it? If he didn’t love Katherine, then maybe Elena is the first person (aside from his mother) that he has ever loved.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
@Damon Forever I agree that Elena has fallen in love with Damon, it’s obvious from her actions in the book. I, too, hope that LJ ends up putting him with Elena in the end. He deserves to be happy and to love and to be loved in return. Since LJ has said that he’s her favorite character, hopefully she’ll give him that happy ending. Until then, I’ll be keeping my fingers crossed!!!
something wrong with bonnie and damon?
I need to know please!
So is there goin to be another book? And If so wen will it be coming out? Two questions I NEED to kno
So is there goin to be another book? And If so wen will it be coming out? Two questions I NEED to kno
So is there goin to be another book? And If so wen will it be coming out? Two questions I NEED to kno
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*IF YOU DON”T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING DO NOT READ*
Yeah, Unless L.J.S. is going to “pull a rabbit out her arse” in the last book, there was NOTHING going on with Damon and Bonnie in this book she and Meredith were with them(and no Matt) for a good portion of the book and all of Damon’s attention was on Elena. He was so sweet in this book and he saved her soooo many times.(Elena)
@Damon Forever Yes, Yes, Yes, Damon and Elena have soooo much chemistry. Their moments blew 90% of the ones Stefan and Elena have had out of the water.
Wonder who Sage is? That’s one of about 10 questions I have. And I wonder which secrets belong to which person? I have some thought but would rather hear other peoples first so I know I didn’t tip the scales with my answer.
I can’t wait for the last book, I am totally hoping Damon and Elena end up together. Of course this could very well end up a threesome though I don’t know how that would work.
I’m glad Elena finally confirmed what so many of us have said on here “that Damon needs her even more than Stefan did” and Damon confirmed that he had been in Fells Church a while before Stefan showed up and only watched Elena from the shadows.
Yes The final book is called THE RETURN MIDNIGHT and is scheduled out in December this year.
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Well, I enjoyed it because I got a D/E fix. I thought we got more of a glimpse into Damon. He obviously isn’t a bad guy at all. He really went out on a limb for all of them in this book, Elena in particular.
Here are some things that I caught and that left me with questions anyone who wants to put their 2 cents in please do.
1. We find out Stefan’s mother was NOT Damon’s mother though Damon loved her very much.
2.We all missed something about the story of Stefan and Damon killing each other over a girl
3.Who is Sage?
4.Why was Stefan kinda mean 2 times when Elena came to him,then snapped out of it like he didn’t realize it?
5.Damon was in Fells Church before Stefan but watched Elena from the shadows why?
6.What’s Meredith always kept secret?
7.What’s Damon’s big secret?
8.**THis one is a doozy** Why would Damon’s death let loose Elena’s powers?
9.Why did the little girl keep referring to Elena as Damon’s MATE?
10.What was the deal with Elena’s ‘dream’ that contained Damon but it was FAMILIAR
11.What happened in the motel?
12.Why did Bonnie keep getting compared to a bird? Considering that’s how Damon also referred to her in the last book.
13.Toward the end why is Elena dishing out orders that everyone seems to obey?
14.Was the memory ball Elena put to her head of her or was that just a play on words?
That’s the ones I can think of #8 is the one I have to say I’m the most curious about.
@Ashleylovez, Damon didn’t seem thrilled that he got Stefan’s humanity so I believe it was truly accidenta.
After this book I don’t see how anyone could hate on Damon he was awesome. He took that whipping for ELena and didn’t even tell her about it, so it can’t be said he did it for any other reason than to really protect her. Not too mention that beak to the back he took for her.
And he was truly happy Stefan got out, and happy for Elena. Even after all the moments they shared he didn’t interfere with them at the end. And until the humanity thing happened Damon and Stefan seemed in a good place.
And I have to say, what the hell is with Stefan that he wouldn’t care that Elena had feelings for Damon and even persuaded her to keep up the influence. Forget Saintly, that’s stupid, because he knows how Damon feels for her. And it looks like Matt, Meredith and Bonnie have caught on too.
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OH I forgot to mention one of my favorite parts. When Damon is ‘healing’ Elenas wounds, in her mind she says ‘ I’m yours…’ I loved that part, and I thought it was poignant that she was the one ‘kinda’ persuing him and he was the one backing off so she could think about it.(this wasn’t sexual for anyone who is reading this but hasn’t read the book, deals more with kissing) and when he presumed she was thinking of Stefan and she pretty much said No she wasn’t…….
One of my favorite parts of the book without a doubt.
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Anyone catch at least two references to how Damon would be willing to die for Elena? Foreshadowing? Also, @Damon Forever made a good point…Salvatore as in Savior. I hate to say it, but may Damon die for Elena?
In the motel, did Damon and Elena have sex or did they just share blood?
Anyone think that Elena is the one with wiped memories? (”dream” in motel bathtub)
@Carol Ann Here are some questions I can answer
4.Why was Stefan kinda mean 2 times when Elena came to him,then snapped out of it like he didn’t realize it?
A. I’m guessing that the guards would always–maybe shapeshift?–appear like her to torture and poke their ideas of fun at Stefan because they knew it would hurt him most.
5.Damon was in Fells Church before Stefan but watched Elena from the shadows why?
A. He probably wanted to make sure she wasn’t Katherine. Observing…like Stefan. Trying to find out everything about her.
9.Why did the little girl keep referring to Elena as Damon’s MATE?
A. Because of the way Elena and Damon acted around each other. I really hope it’s foreshadowing though.
12.Why did Bonnie keep getting compared to a bird? Considering that’s how Damon also referred to her in the last book.
A. I do believe there is symbolism is being called a “bird,” but I don’t know what it is. Can anyone look up the symbolism of bird? I’m sure it plays some effect.
@Lily, yes I also caught the fact that Damon said that twice, and he more than proved that statement in this book. I hope it’s not foreshadowing, Damon dying when he’s already had a ‘crappy’ life wouldn’t be a happy ending, A happy ending would be Damon finally GETTING a HEA. He seems so sad on the inside. And if you go by Elena’s analogies Damon is actually a gentle, kind person who is lonely and sad and never known real love or kindness.
I don’t have anything against Stefan but even if I didn’t already feel this way after reading this book I would feel like Damon NEEDED to win Elena in the end. I would be a happy camper if it turned out that way. Of course it could be a threesome after Matt’s statement that Damon looked like he belonged with Stefan and Elena? I just dont see how that would work.
Yes, I think Elena will be the one with the wiped memory because of the dream and the argument she over heard.
Wonder who was involved in the stolen kiss? And whose the murderer? And does each person have a secret or just some of them.
Damon definitely took Elena’s blood in the motel because that’s the last thing we know before morning, I say it’s safe to assume she took his too. His comment about her still being unicorn bait suggest they didn’t have sex/
He Lily, I just wanted to say that I really hope that you are wrong about Damon dying to save Elena. I only made that comment because of when Damon pulled Elena onto Caroline’s roof. He says “The name is Salvatore, as in Savior.” SPOILERS Does anyone know where the two references are that Damon will die? I remember reading them in the book I just forgot exactly where it is in the story. There are so many things that must be figured out within this next story. What really happened in the motel? I don’t think it was just blood sharing because Elena and Damon have done that before. Unless this is the first time that Elena has done so willingly. Maybe that is it. But I still think a lot more happened than that. I am really trying hard to figured out the thing that everyone missed in the Katherine story. Also, I really hope that whatever Damon’s secret is will not make everybody really hate him. I hope that it is not something really horrible. I agree that Elena is the one whose memory has been erased. I can kinda see Meredith as a killer when presented with the right circumstances. What is it the Sage has done? It must be really bad. What was the stolen kiss? Not Damon and Elena. Damon already has a secret. The erased memory is probably Elena. The secret in the motel is Elena. Meredith is the murderer so we think. There is the one about Sage. That only leaves Bonnie, Stefan, and Matt. I believe that Bonnie has either kissed Matt or Stefan. Then as Shinichi was leaving he started to say something else. So the leftover secret that he never got to would have to be Stefan’s or Matt’s depending on who didn’t kiss Bonnie. I hope that Stefan kissed Bonnie because that would make things so much more interesting!! Plus Damon and Elena should end up together at the end. So L.J. can put Stefan with Bonnie. That would be the best ending ever!!!
oops meant to say hey Lily sorry
hi I thought Damon \\\’s memories were erased……Or is it Elena now…??
At the end does Damon remember again?
please tell me
@Damon Forever, One time was in the ‘dream’ Elena has in the bathtub. Damon says he would die for her to be safe and free(I thought the free part maybe important) . The other time is when they have gotten Stefan out and Elena is getting Damon’s thoughts and she says he is glad because she is happy and that he in the most part helped her in that task, and then she gets him saying he would give his life for his brothers, For ELena’s sake, his own pride and for Stefan.
But, I’ve been skimming the book and highlighting things I think are important and when Elena sees Stefan the second time when she is out of body, Stefan prays to god that he would even accept ‘true death’ if he could kiss her just once, and he did get to. So is this also foreshadowing or was it Shinichi who actually allowed the kiss and will call on Stefan for his true death? This could be an opening for Damon to sacrifice himself for Stefan. Though it may piss some ppl off because Stefan is a good guy and all to me it would be sadder if Damon died in the end because he’s never had a good life. Stefan didn’t embrace his vampire life as Damon did but the life he lived as a human was good.and according to Damon in Nightfall, Stefan is looking for a side door into heaven, if that’s where he goes Stefan may not mind. He seems to loathe being a vampire and unless Elena has an extended life sooner or later he would still have to lose her. And they would never be able to have children. With Damon a human all those things would be possible with him now.
The stolen kiss has me stumped it would have to be someone that shouldn’t have, for instance a Matt and Bonnie kiss wouldn’t need to be stolen or a secret, Though the only two in an actual relationship is Stefan and Elena so it wouldn’t seem like it would matter if it was anyone else, Did Matt steal a kiss from Elena? Did Stefan steal one with someone else? Damon and Elena’s kisses weren’t really secrets unless it was from Bonnie and Meredith. Cause considering Stefan knows Elena was in Damon’s mind he at the very least knows they swapped blood or kissed.
But, why would Damon’s death unleash Elena’s powers? Why did he tell her he would always be with her in the dream? Do they have a past we don’t know about?
Sorry to all you Damon/Bonnie supporters, there was nothing going on with them in this book at ALL. I thought it might have meant something when Damon lifted Matt out of the hole at the end of the book and sat him down next to Bonnie, cause it said Bonnie looked at him confused. Maybe he’s saying this is who you should be with???
Now, Damon IS human now, so maybe things will change, but since L.J.S. said Elena would fall in love with Damon to the same point she is with Stefan and if it did indeed happen in this book and I think it did, It still never was said between them, unless that is the big motel secret? So it looks at least to me like there will be more happening between D/E in the last book. there was way too much left unsaid and done in this book for there not to be.
Corrie, Damon’s memories were erased. SPOILER if you haven’t read the book yet. Shinichi comes back at the end and says that someone’s memories were erased and he does not mean Stefan or Damon. So yes some people have been speculating that he was referring to Elena because of the dream that she had where there were two people having a conversation about her.
Corrie, Damon\\\’s memories were erased. SPOILER if you haven\\\’t read the book yet. Shinichi comes back at the end and says that someone\\\’s memories were erased and he does not mean Stefan or Damon. So yes some people have been speculating that he was referring to Elena because of the dream that she had where there were two people having a conversation about her.
Whoa didn’t mean to post it twice. It wasn’t working so I guess I pressed it too many times lol
I hope Elena ends up with Damon. He`s human now… they must be 2gether 4-ever!!!!! I don`t like Stefan at all… yes, he`s sweet and good, but Damon is the best for Elena… He`s hot and he really loves her and will do/did anything for her… They meant for each other… My heart will be broken, if Elena ends up with Stefan…
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@Damon Forever I hope I’m wrong about Damon dying, too! I just thought it was a good point. Here is one of the two (plus) references…page 110 of Shadow Souls…in the bathtub…second dream “Any sacrifice would be worth it if she were safe and free. His life meant nothing without her, so he would gladly give it, laughing and kissing his hand to her with his last breath.” (One of the saddest and most sweetest lines ever).
I don’t think they /just/ shared blood in the motel either because Elena’s been /willing/ to give her blood to Damon multiple times throughout the book.
And I totally agree with your pairing and ending of the book! Let’s pray it turns out that way! HEA for all!
Maybe by Damon’s death ~wince~ he’s turning into a vampire again? And Elena has to help him with…something (maybe he’ll have a difficulty transitioning?…I’m sure they’ll be some drama over it. But if Damon were to really ~wince, shudder, cry~ die, maybe it’ll infuriate Elena (and maybe she’ll want to go back to the spirit world to retrieve him haha) and she’s just have a burst of power (to heal him? to heal everyone else?)
~~SPOILERS FOR MIDNIGHT~~
Look what I found on http://vampirediariesboard.proboards.com/index.cgi
Well, technically they’re not actual confirmed spoilers, but rumours, but some may have truth to them…maybe?
“Take these with a grain of salt since these have not been confirmed……and frankly some are contradicting.
Midnight, will be the last text in this Return series that focuses on Damon. A fan who has read the second installment claims that she heard that L. J. Smith plans to write another Return Series from Stefan’s point of view.
A major character will be killed before the end of Midnight. According to thoes fans who have read the second installment, there is evidence to support the theories that the major death could be either Stefan or Damon.
There is and has never been any plans to pair Damon with Bonnie.
Damon has a difficult time readjusting to life as a human and Bonnie helps him. During this time Bonnie and Damon both realize they have feelings for one another.
Upon returning from the dark dimension, Damon befriends a female vampire with the sole intention of having her change him back into a vampire.
Meredith’s secret….she may not be just a human.
A Shocking Return…..”
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What do you think: real or rumour?
Wow Lily that’s really interesting. Some of it doesn’t make sense though. I mean like you said it is contradictory. How can Damon and Bonnie have feelings for each other when there are no plans to put them together? thanks for the references from SS by the way. I do not care what happens in the book as along as Damon does not die, actually not die not turning back into a vampire. I would love it if Damon ends up with Elena but my main concern is that he does not get killed off. That would be the most horrible, sad, heart breaking ending ever. I would cry for week lol. So here’s to hoping that L.J. will do the right thing and keep the best character of the series around through the end!!!
I just finished the book last night! I loved everything until the end.
~Spoiler~
I don’t like that Damon became human. Unless him becoming human is what makes him and Elena get together then I’ll be ok with it. But it just seems like it will be really weird in the next book him being human.
Can someone please tell me when it says that Damon was watching Elena before Stefan even showed up? I’ve seen some people say it on here but I can’t remember reading that.
I think I would die myself if Damon gets killed off, he’s the main reason I follow the books and the tv series, because I am always rooting for him and Elena to be together.
Now, why would LJS give Damon his humanity just to see him killed off ??? doesn’t make any sense to me. I think that by Damon being human the whole reason for that is for him and Elena to have a happy and normal life together, marriage, kids etc. etc. Makes sense to me. I think that Stefan will be the one to die (OR) he will end up with Bonnie. I say Bonnie because when I was watching a re-run of one of the tv episodes the other night, and yes I know the tv show goes away from the books on a lot of stuff, BUT it just came to me during the opening of the tomb when Bonnie was there with her grandmother and Stefan ran in to rescue Elena because she screamed. Bonnie started to REALLY freak out because he may not be able to get back out again because the Grandmother had opened the door but not broken the seal, so the vamps could go in but not OUT. Bonnie was freaking up a storm and why would she be that upset if it was just for Elena’s boyfriend? I think Bonnie has some secret feelings for Stefan JMO. May be the tv execs know which way the books are ultimately headed.
I don`t give a f*ck what will happen in the next book, because in real life Nina (Elena) is already choose Ian (Damon)
Paul (Stefan) is a good guy… but… good girls like bad guys as I know ![]()
ANd of course in book she will choose Stefan, which isn`t right I think… Because there are more Delena fans then Selena
Hey Delena. Awesome name by the way. Yes this book is full of a lot of hot scenes between Damon and Elena. It is totally amazing!! They kiss countless number of times in SS. Elena is constantly saying oh gee i don’t understand how this keeps happening but somehow I find myself in Damon’s arms again. LOL
delena
Thanks for answering. I was thinking that might be what it meant. The post just made me think Damon was watching her for awhile. But for all we know, Damon could have been in Fell’s Church way before Stefan and had been watching Elena for a long time.
And there is some really good scenes in this book with Damon and Elena. You can tell that she is falling in love with him.
@ Damon and @ Sara
Yay and sqeeeeeee a million times, all excited now. Thanks so much, can’t wait for the book to arrive. Elena and Damon FOREVER.
omg guys
i was searching up the symbolism of a bird because damon keeps calling bonnie his little bird and look at what i found: “The symbol of a bird is thought to have been a symbol of the soul. If the type of bird is not specified in the blazon, it is usually drawn in the form of a blackbird. The black feathers and melodious song make the blackbird a symbol of the darkness of sin and the alluring temptations of the flesh. It may be borne as a reminder to resist temptation.” i also think more symbolism is that damon turns into a crow, a bird. i also think that this has nothing to do with making a donnie relationship.
tell me what you guys think!
oh and why does meredith make damon uneasy? it doesn’t make sense and its just nagging in the back of my mind
@Sara actually Damon mentioning watching Elena before Stefan comes to town does get mentioned in SS here it is Page 140 Damon says \”But you remember, I came to Fells Church before Stefan did; I just lurked in the shadows longer. The way you talked…..
Elena interjects at that point but one he says he came before Stefan and lurked longer and 2. the fact he heard her and her friends talking lets you know he followed her around.
@Sara actually Damon mentioning watching Elena before Stefan comes to town does get mentioned in SS here it is Page 140 Damon says “But you remember, I came to Fells Church before Stefan did; I just lurked in the shadows longer. The way you talked…..
Elena interjects at that point but one he says he came before Stefan and lurked longer and 2. the fact he heard her and her friends talking lets you know he followed her around.
Oh and for whoever asked or said it. I would normally agree that it seemed something besides blood swapping happened in the motel but when Damon taste her tears, because I think he also thought they slept together, she says he looked startled and disappointed and said she was STILL unicorn bait, which is how he referred to her when he found out she was a virgin. I think the fact that they love each other is what occurred. JMO
Sorry I double posted though my second post did have a follow up thought in the last paragraph, When it didnt post I added something and then try to post again not knowing the first one went through.
And I agree those spoilers make no sense, the D/B descrepency for one and two in order to keep up the love triangle I would imagine it would be Elena that helps Damon adjust.
@Carol Ann
Thank you! I was trying so hard to remember if he said anything about seeing her first and watching her. I kept thinking about how in the first book it seemed like they showed up around the same time and was confused.
And I agree that it will be Elena that helps Damon adjust. I can’t really see him excepting help from Bonnie.
I loved the book some parts were boring to read lol..but I loved the parts about Elena & Damon I really hope they stay together.
I can’t believe Damon turned into a human again lol but that is gonna be a nice twist in the story.
I can’t wait to find out what happend between elena & damon in the hotel room_its killing me ot knowing.
I believe elena wants to keep stefan around cause she feels a certain need for him but Im sure she is falling in love with damon.they r just sooo cute together =]
Can’t wait for the next book_does anybody know when it will come out??
Thank u Kayla ure AWSOME!! In case some of u didn’t see her post she said that there was another book comin out around December this year called The Return Midnight!!!!! I can’t wait, no offense to those who like Stefan but I hope that he dies in the next book ( but for a good cause, like maybe sacrifice himself for Elena) that way he would be out of the way and it could be Elena and Damon FOREVER, they mAke a way better couple because they understand each other!!!
DAMON AND ELENA FOREVER!! <3 <3 <3 <3
COME ON PEOPLE if you read dark visons it is alomost as vampire daires.and at the end of dark visons kait choes gabrel the bad one but he was sweet inside this book was also by lj. simt it like saying that gabrel is like damon and rob the good one is like stefan. and kaite really loved rob and she though that her and rob were soul mate but at the end she figer out that she loved gabrel more and the same thing is going to happen in vampire daires elena is going to choes damon becaues they undrestand each athour and it exiting when elena and damon are together but when stefan and elena are together it soooooo boring i heat stefan!! damon and elean are soooo going to be together if you think about it you will agree with me. TEAM DAMON 4 EVER
I want the story to end Elena and Damon together!!!
It will such a waste if lj end it Damon dying!! T.T
Damon and Elena are much more compatible!!
Damon and Elena forever!!!
Can all Damon fans request it to the author, or to be fair have two endings, one ends elena and stefan together..
Really hate if Damon dies!!!
Hey Love Damon, I completely agree with you. I have also read “Dark Visions.” I loved it!! I have thought before that the triangle in Vampire Diaries is much like the one in Dark Visions. I hope that it does end the same way with Elena choosing the “bad boy.” Also there is something else in Shadow Souls that reminded me of the Nightworld series. There is the scene where Elena and Damon’s hands touch. Then there is this huge jolt of electricity and it takes a little while before they can separate. In the Nightworld stories whenever two people have electricity like that, they are Soulmates. They are bound to be together FOREVER. They are bound to each other even if they don’t like each other to begin. This is VERY CLEARLY NOT the case here. Damon and Elena are falling in love. However, if that scene is any indication then I certainly hope that L.J. will put them together. Cross your fingers
omg i read this nd i wanna read it so badly ican not wait ooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmfffffffffffffffffffffffffgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
Elena and Damon??
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooOOO
Elena is a bitch!!!
I’m a little confused, because at nightfall damon bonnie felt something … and maybe those feelings go away? OMG
each day less to understand lj smith ….
OMG!!! I loved the book!!! Especially all the Damon/Elena scenes! In this book we really got a chance to see what Damon is really like. He is really sweet and I love how he never breaks his word. All the things he did for Elena really proves his love for her and I think Elena is finally starting to realize that her love for Damon goes beyond just caring for him as a friend or as her boyfriend’s brother.
I especially love the ending!!! It totally left us all hanging, but Damon was hilarious in the ending! I couldnt tell if LJ wanted the ending to be kinda sad or if it was meant to be funny, until the end when everyone busted out laughing!
I really cant wait for the next one now! All those secrets that Shinichi knows about should be quite interesting to find out. and I agree with all of you that Elena is the one with the memory loss. I wish we knew a little more about that dream she had in the bathtub, then it might be a little easier to figure out!!! haha! =)
@Jessie yes I did also notice that the teaser and the book were different for some reason lol…
OMG I can’t wait for the next book =]
vampire Diaries_The Return:Nightfall out 2010
SPOILER!!!!!
The surviving group of Fell’s Church friends return to find their town in a shambles. Meredith makes a horrifying discovery in her research and Bonnie has an out of body experience which might explain all the mayhem that is going on. Matt faces down Caroline, while, Elena must face the most important question of her life: who does she really belong with? Stefan or Damon?
I am sooo excited for this book =]
@vampire Thanks for looking up the bird symbolism!
I honestly don’t know what to make of it…
Would bird (symbol of soul) go with Bonnie?
And blackbird (darkness of sin; alluring temptations of flesh) matches Damon?
What would Damon have to do with Bonnie’s soul?
Damon has been labeled as “evil” (which we all know he’s really not!) so that may go with blackbird…
BTW: Has anyone noticed the numerous cat similes in the first books? (i.e. “eyes narrowed like a cat”)
Has anyone caught any recurring similes or metaphors or repeated sayings in SS?
Just got word that my SS book has shipped so I should have it any day now, YAY !!!! Can’t wait.
I had not heard of the Dark Visions books, also by LJS. Going to look for them. How many are there, are they a series of books like TVD or is it just one book?
Thanks guys.
To answer your question delena The Dark Visions series is three books. However it is sold like the Vampire Diaries in just one with all three stories in it. Hope that helps. BTW Dark Visions is amazing!!! It is my second favorite of her books after Vampire Diaries.
I agree with Ashleylovez.
I just never thought Elena would remain unfaithful. I LOVE the idea of her with Damon but losing her class? i thought she was deeper than that to cheat on Stefan. And even though no more than kissing happened i thought maybe Elena would say something like “I’m with Stefan right now i can’t do this” but she just kept melting into him. Which as i said before i want her with Damon! But i just wished before she did ANYTHING like kissing with Damon she would have broken it off with Stefan first. Yay Delana <3
@ashleylovez
I agree with you. As much as I love D/E, I was pretty shocked they were both betraying Stefan like that. I mean the poor guy was dying in a jail cell and the love of his life was cheating on him with his brother. But I was also kinda upset that Elena just kinda acted like none of it happened at the end of the book. The second she had Stefan back she pretty much could have cared less about what her and Damon had been doing. She didn’t seem to feel guilty at all.
@sara, thats another thing that really pissed me off!
She could of atleast gave Damon credit, or admitted her wrongdoing to Stefan. It is true, she acted like she was completely innocent the whole time Stefan was locked away. So now she’s lying to Stefan and masking whatever feelings (if any) that she has for Damon. Who knows if she even does, she could have just been toying around with him because she was lonely when Stefan wasn’t around. I mean really we can’t put it past her, considering the person we thought she was turned out to be lie. She’s obviously not the loyal, trustworthy person she acted like.
@ashleylovez
At the end I thought she might say something about what she did when she was talking to Stefan about Damon. She was saying how she did everything she could to help him, even love him. I really thought she was gonna say something about it but make it sound like she was only doing it to help Damon or something. I really hope Damon brings it up in the next book. Whether he tells Stefan to hurt him or just to ask Elena what it was they were doing.
I miss the Elena from the first books, I liked that Elena and I\’m pretty sure she wouldn’t cheat on Stefan. And even if she did, she would at least feel guilty about it. I understand that she has feelings for Damon, but that doesn’t mean she had any right to cheat on Stefan. It actually seems like she just wanted Damon cuz he was there.
I am a pretty big Damon/Elena fan, but I couldn’t really enjoy their scenes cuz I felt bad for Stefan.
I feel stupid but can someone please tell where the part is in the book that says something about that if Damon dies then Elena’s powers will be unleashed. Sometimes I feel as though I read through the books too fast and miss important things lol. I’ve got to re-read this book very carefully. Thanks
@Damon Forever it is on page 263 While Damon is being beaten about and about to be killed he sends a telepathic message to Stefan \”Stefan hear me, Elena\’s come for you–She\’ll get you out! She has powers that my death will let loose.\”
@Sara I felt that way at the end, after all Damon and Elena had shared the minute she was with Stefan Damon got dropped like a hot potato I didn\’t like that. And even though some of you got upset about them \’cheating on Stefan\’ call it just my happiness that Damon and Elena were finally getting their time together but it really didn\’t phase me much. It bothered me more when she blew Damon off at the end. Though I did wonder; twice there at the end, when they were running from Bloddeuwedd she says she is sorry to Damon and the second time she is sobbing. I was torn between whether this was over her comment about him not stooping to take animal blood(after he kills the horses) or is this her apologizing for going back to Stefan?page 537 and 538 in case anyone wants to read it and give me their take.
@Ashleylovez I have to say I for one Honestly believe Elena has sincere feelings for Damon. Actually, I think she loves him but she hasn\’t come to terms with it yet because she loves Stefan too, and I believe Damon drinking off girls all the time bothers Elena for more than one reason. Now he\’s human I guess we\’ll see where it goes.
I\’ve said it before and I\’ll say it again I will be shocked and totally railroaded if anything except a friendship comes out of the Damon/Bonnie thing. the back of Midnight reads like Elena will make a decision between Damon and Stefan and I can\’t see that being the case if Bonnie is any where in the equation. There wouldn\’t be a decision to be made it would just be Damon and Bonnie and Elena and Stefan. But, I don\’t see that happening the feeling between D/E were too deep and evident in SS. JMO
I totally agree with most of you on the whole Damon/Elena situation! I absolutely LOVE Damon so I obviousely loved the scenes with him and Elena together, however I was very disappointed that Elena was cheating on Stefan. Stefan definately doesn’t deserve any of that. Especially because one of the reasons he was even in jail was because he wanted to become human for her. Stefan has been totally faithful to Elena (as far as we know…ya never know, Shinichi’s secrets may prove me wrong on this! lol) and for Elena to cheat on him like that and not even really feel guilty about it is just wrong!
Im going to definately have to reread the book because I read it so fast, Im forgetting the details now, but if I remember correctly, Stefan does know that Elena and Damon have something going on, but Im not sure if he knows that it goes beyond Elena just simply caring for Damon. I really wish that Stefan would stick up for himself! I know that he doesnt want to lose Elena, so therefore he might be afraid to say anything to her, but Stefan deserves better than what Elena is giving him.
Im super excited to see what is going to happen now that Damon is human and if Elena’s aura will still have the same effect on him as it did as a vampire. And I wonder if Elean will still be as attracted to Damon as she was before.
@Damon Forever…That part is in Chapter 19 Page 263. And I think it means that maybe Elena would be so upset or mad that he died that her powers would just come to her. Ive heard it said that people can do extraordinary things under highly emotional circumstances! lol
@kayla, I’m on the fence about Elena’s feelings. Although, I’m leaning more towards she actually does care for Damon but just got carried away and did a little more than she would have with Damon if Stefan was around or if she wasn’t lonely.
I think Damon’s feelings are for the most part sincere, although I wonder what’s going to happen with her aura not affecting him. I assume he’ll resume with normal human desires and maybe still have the urge to kiss and be with her. But it does leave me to wonder, if he was still a vamp and she had a normal aura would have the urge to kiss her?
I know a lot of Damon/Elena fans aren’t caring about the cheating because just that, they’re Damon/Elena fans. But if you look past that, it’s still wrong. I would say the same thing if it was the other way around.
I’m always so conlflicted on this sort of stuff because honestly, I love both characters. Damon’s probably my favorite, I just like Elena and Stefan together more. Hopefully if Elena and Damon do get together, she doesn’t go behind his back with Stefan!!! And it was rude that she didn’t even acknowledge what happend with her and Damon when Stefan came back around, thats what got my blood boiling! The fact that she didn’t tell and acted like nothing ever happend.
For some reason, I’m just not convinced it’s going to work out regarding her being with just one. But to me it would be soooo stupid to make her be with both. And yes, the only way is death but I pray it doesn’t happen to either one of the Salvatore brothers whom I so dearly love.
@Ashleylovez, I totally get where your coming from I\’m not saying it was right for Damon and Elena to fool around while Stefan was dwindling in jail, but like I said it was over wrought for me because I was so excited to finally have Damon and Elena spending their time together. I was actually alittle surprised at Stefan for not being upset with all Elena did come clean about. I mean she out and out told him she had given Damon \’EVERYTHING\’ that wasn\’t his alone. That didn\’t leave much to the imagination. And yet Stefan tells her to keep it up???????
And I could totally see this being a threesome at the end, don\’t know how exactly that would work (Damon gets her body, Stefan gets her blood?) That is if Damons stays human and Stefan stays vampire. I just don\’t know, but weird or not if it keeps Damon in the loop I can live with it.
lets think about it…I mean what is Stefan’s alone? NOTHING. As far as we know they haven’t had sex, so what does that leave? She’s kissed and shared blood, the same as she has with Stefan, with Damon. Maybe she is talking about the emotional connection, because in my opinion it wasn’t built on as much in the book. Obviously there were emotionally scenes but it still doesn’t trump the emotional connection between Stefan and Elena. In my opinion it was more a physical thing with her and Damon.
@Ashleylovez, I think she considers her body stefan’s I think she intends for her first time to be with Stefan I only say this because the part where she is practically naked she says it’s for Stefan alone. I still think their (Damon/Elena) feelings for each other go way beyond what some ppl think. I think that’s why they. Didn’t think of Stefan at the time
e they were to caught up emotionally at the time to even consider what they were doing and ena seems to totally forget stefan when she’s kissing Damon.
Well I have to say that I hope that the end of the series is good. I hope that there is a happy ending for everyone. Especially Damon. I just don’t know how she would pull that off. Also as much I adore Vampire Diaries it needs to be over with by the end of the next book. I think it will be totally disastrous if she writes another trilogy with Stefan at the center. I would be bored to tears
I think that another three book is perhaps pushing. However, the only good thing is that she wouldn’t kill Damon off in Midnight if there are indeed going to be three more books. If she killed Damon at the end of Midnight there would be pretty much no point in continuing anyhow as far as I’m concerned lol
SPOILER FOR MIDNIGHT SPOILER
WARNING If you do not want to know what happens to Damon
please skip this spoiler
<<>>> I dont think Damon will be the one who dies because why would LJ number 1 kill her favorite character and number 2 she makes him human and then vamp again, just to kill him? Doesnt make sense. I also dont think it will be Elena, because thats already been done.
So that leaves us with Stefan,Bonnie,Meridith or Matt
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@Team Damon, what? did she say Damon would be turned back to vampire? Hum….wonder who will do the deed?
Sorry my previous post had so many typos I was doing it from my iphone and obviously missed some letters LOL
So I just started reading SS about 2 days ago and since I’ve been really busy, I’m only halfway through with it but here are my comments so far:
Um yeah…No need to gloat to all the Bamon fans but there is absolutely zero action going on between them in this book for you people. Sorry
It’s ALL DELENA PEOPLES!!! This Bamon relationship may just end up being a friendship. I don’t see why he’d risk his love for Elena just to get Bonnie.
I was amused when Lakshimi referred to Damon as Elena’s mate, because she sure as hell wasn’t acting as his slave…nor was she really trying that hard to deny the accusation >_> LMAO
About Elena cheating on Stefan with Damon…I realize a lot of people are on the fence about that but ask yourselves this. How else would she “fall in love with Damon to the same extent as with Stefan” if she did not somehow cheat on him. -_- Really…This is not Twilight where the girl falls head over heels in love with some guy she doesn’t even know personally or started to date. If Damon and Elena did not share any moments I highly doubt that she would fall for him. So the kisses, caresses, flirting etc. are kinda necessary if you ask me. Her problem is that she’s indecisive about who she really loves and the only way she would be able to explore her feelings for Damon would be when Stefan is away.
Yes, that is wrong…But are there any other options? I highly doubt that…Anyways another point I would like to add is this. I remember someone stating that Stefan has her body or something. I disagree. Stefan has, until now, always had her mind. She was always physically acttracted to Damon, so whenever he touched her or whatever, she would feel the electricity jolt through her veins. Damon was never able to get to her mentally because she basically blocked him out of her thoughts. But now, they were able to connect both mentally and physically just by a kiss, allowing them to freely explore each others minds…Which she did with Stefan at some point I assume.
Elena is obviously in denial about her feelings for Damon, since she likes to believe that he’s compelling her (lol), but she’s going to realize probably in the next book that yes…She is in love with him.
As for Meredith’s secret…She may either not be human…or something else entirely. I find it weird that they know nothing about her background…Then there was the scene where her eyes appeared gray when they were always supposed to be brown…I really wonder about that.
As soon as LJS described Sage in the books, I think I swooned…He sounds awesome…But according to what Damon says, “they don’t know who he really is”, I’m guessing Sage is not just a powerful vampire…
Damon turning human is a serious twist…I will be seriously pissed if she harms him because as a human…He is very much vulnerable. Plus, I actually can picture him sacrificing himself for Elena’s sake…But I’m hoping that he gets turned back into a vampire…
My guess at who secretly shared a kiss, we kinda already got a hint that maybe Matt and Bonnie did kiss in Nightfall, so I guess it’s either Stefan and Meredith or maybe even Matt and Caroline…Who knows?
Btw, didn’t Bonnie already have a premonition that she would die young so why is everybody making random guesses about who will die? However, it is typical of LJS to disregard details because she supposedly ended the books with The Return leaving those 2 foreshadowings hanging in the air (the other one being Damon appearing at the supper).
There is one thing that gets me thinking though…That scene where Damon pressed the starball to Elena’s head she had a dream about Allegra and John. Who are those people exactly because I think they play some significance. According to Damon, the starball lets you relive memories and then forget them afterwards. But Elena seems to not have recognized them. I woonder if they could be her parents from the past, were their names ever given after all? I think she really does have suppressed memories and when she remembers them…The plot is going to get a whole lot thicker!!!! o_O
DELENA FTW!!!!!!! XD
@Kayla
I can see it being a threesome to. That’s the only way I can think of that would give them all a happy ending. As much as I would love for Damon and Elena to be together, I can’t see Stefan losing Elena being a happy ending. I want both of the Salvatore brothers to have a happy ending.
@TeamDamon
Did LJ Smith say Damon was gonna turn back into a vampire? If he does I will be so happy.
@dicey, I thought the John/Allegra scene was the memory of the man (John) who she got the memory from. I don’t think it was a starball also, I thought they said it was a marlboro, or maybe it’s both.
@Dicey you make some very good points. It was I who said that about Elena thinking of her body as Stefan’s. That reference was more about when she told Stefan she had given Damon everything that wasn’t his (Stefan) alone. Well, the only thing she didn’t share with Damon was her body. She wouldn’t even hug or let Damon see her when she was ‘dressed down’ to go see Stefan. So, that was where that comment came from. Frankly, considering how much Elena loves Stefan she probably never, ever, expected to have any feelings for Damon. I do find it odd that she always feels the electricity when she touches Damon, Did that ever happen with Stefan? If so, she doesn’t mention it happening any more.
Sage has me confused, the fact it is suppose to be a big deal who he really is, I am assuming it will be someone that all the other characters in the book have at least heard of.
Would it really be a secret or stolen if Matt and Bonnie kissed? Hey I’m all for that happening, just don’t know if it fits the guidelines for a secret. Unless Matt or Bonnie thought Elena would be upset by it, which I don’t see.
I agree Meredith is not completely human, I think there is going to be something else in her background. Lots of references to her being strong like a ‘boy’ in this book. Not to mention, Damon leaves Meredith to protect Elena when he has to leave, like he knew she was well capable.
I wondered about the star ball scene too. Mostly, because Damon seemed suprised that Elena had seen the guy, unfortunately, we get a description of the woman but not the man. Or at least what I can recall.
I thought Damon firing the gun a Shinichi was to get him to shut up before anything else about him could come out, Camelot gets referenced twice in the book, I looked it up, not too much significance that I can tell, (King Arthurs court) so I don’t know how or why that will play in.
wonder if Sage will end up with Meredith or perhaps Bonnie? Although nothing tipped the scales in this book I still think Bonnie and Matt will/should end up together.
@Kayla I really don’t think Sage will end up with either Meredith or Bonnie because no one knows who he is and Damon was hoping no one would find out, so it’s probably not a really good identity/past. Besides, IMO Bonnie doesn’t really deserve a guy. She’s too childish. She would go good with Matt, but i think he deserves better. He loves Elena but he stuck around for a really long time helping her get Stefan. Sure he ditched her in SS but he ended up helping in Fell’s church.
Do you guys think it’s possible that Meredith isn’t human, or at least, not completely human?
i was just reading some comments that were posted just a few days ago saying that Stefan should have done something at the end of the book when Elena tells him she loves Damon. I guess i agree. i say i guess because this book was good but confusing. i finished it two days ago but i read it so fast and its all a blur in my head.
I know my opinions of the characters though. i hate Stefan. Elena told him she loved Damon at the end of the book, and he was all, oh well, you’re mine now, whatever. He didn’t DO anything. I’m a HUGE d/e fan, because Stefan looks at Elena like shes a goddess, like the world revolves around her, and that’s just what Elena wants. HIS world may revolve around her, but he should expect other people to treat her like he does. All he does is grovel and beg at her feet for her love. JUST GET UP AND do SOMETHING, but sadly he never does.
That’s why I prefer Damon. He loves her in a more realistic way, if you can use that word in a book like this. He’s really sweet and would do anything for Elena, and hes JUST AS GOOD AS STEFAN, no wait, he’s BETTER.
You all have probably noticed that there just might be a second (yet microscopic compared to the other one) love triangle. The gigantic, massive one is S/E/D. The microscopic one (compared to S/E/D) is B/D/M. It is sort of hard to tell which Bonnie will end up with because she treats both of them the same. She cares for Matt when he sprains his ankle and what not, but she also helps Damon. She kept defending his pride like with the comment about Shinichi when they are at the hotel in AZ. Elena even said it herself; Bonnie was defending him as if he were her boy friend. Also Bonnie was the first one to take action on Damon turning human, she brought him a plate of food even when Mrs. Flowers is usually the one to jump first at that. BTW: is anyone else super curious about Shinichi\’s comment on Sage?? I am. So, who is he really? And what is up with Merideth and the whole secret thing?? Is she human? If not, what is she? What about Caroline\’s comment from -the first book is it?; \”I\’ve heard my parents talk about Merideth\’s family. No wonder she never speaks of them.\”? I am so confused and DYING to get my hands on the new book, Midnight. What do you guys think about this stuff?
~A
@ Sara
@Kayla
Well, the book finally arrived today and I am about half way through it. And, ashamed to say it but couldn’t resist taking a peek at the ending/
Stefan is really starting to piss me off bigtime. Can this guy be any more of a wimp, it is possible? Even when Elena tells him about Damon at the end, he is o.k. with it and tells her to keep it up. I am changing my mind now and beginning to see an eventual threesome come out of this.
I dont think Elena considers that she is cheating on Stefan as she considers her motivation to be to help Damon by getting in to his head and doing that thing with the little boy and the boulder and the only way she can do that is by the kissing and physical contact. But I do also believe she is in denial about her real and TRUE feelings toward Damon.
The ending took me totally by surprise as I had thought that Damon would be willingly sacrificing his vampire status to get Stefan out of jail but apparently that didn’t happen and Damon ending up smelling the roses – literally- and ending up human totally by accident by taking a gift that was meant for Stefan. The ending imo was just bizzare and almost seemed to be just thrown in at the end randomly and not in the flow of the book.
As a huge delena fan I have to agree with Sara and Kayla that I was just horrified at the ending where Damon practically no longer exists for Elena once Stefan is out of jail and totally gets blown off. At this point I would totally like to smack both Stefan and Elena upside the head. Stefan for coming across as more of a wimp than even he usually is and Elena for just abandoning Damon so casually.
Overall, I hope Midnight is better than SS. I mostly only read this series because of the Damon/Elena action.
SPOILER SPOILER
Yes, Damon by the end of Midnight will be turned back into
a Vampire. She dis not say by whom
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I just have to say that I agree with all the above comments. Stefan is whipped, and that ‘little lovely love’ thing in the beginning of nightfall made me sick.
I miss L.J. Smith’s old writing, the one she used in Vampire Diaries, the original series.
I’m about to start reading Shadow Souls, and It’ll piss me off if Elena ends upp with Stefan, seriously, I will burn the stupid book.
I kinda sounded really weird there, but I’m serious. Stefan’s whipped. Edward’s whipped. There’s a whipped person in all the vampire books. Sadly enough.
Team Delena, from the beginning – to the very end.
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Btw, I’m really sorry if my grammar is not perfect. I’m from Sweden.
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@Delena (love the name by the way, LOL) I totally agree with you I think Elena is looking at Damon with the thought of helping him but, secretly has feelings for him. I mean she even says it in the book that Damon was as scared as she was to reveal too much.
I could be totally wrong but I believe that’s what the little boy in Damon’’s head is referring to right before he says ‘I’ll keep our secret” Elena comments that she drops all her shields and I think Damon may have gotten a peek into her head and realized she loves him and I agree with whoever said it I believe that is at least one of Damon’s secrets (that he loves her) I think he doesn’t want to let her know because he doesn’t think she wants him, and only wants Stefan. who would want to throw themselves under the bus?
I am and have always been a Damon/Elena fan, I truely hope that is who ends up together.
@delena
I thought Damon was gonna sacrifice his being a vampire for Stefan also. I was very disappointed that the way he was turned human was treated like a joke. The ending was so confusing to me and it did seem really random.
@TeamDamon
~Spoiler~
I am so glad he’ll be turned back into a vampire! I wonder who will change him back cuz I doubt Stefan will.
LJ Said in an interview that Damon made Sage a vampire, that may reveal a little of WHO he is..but I doubt thats all of it.
As for the person who said it seemed Elena forgot all about what happen with Damon when she got Stefan. That is wrong. Look at what happen after she got Stefan and was holding him and running out. She spotted Damon, and she was more happy to see Damon then Stefan. It say during that scene Damon was excited by how happy she was and that HIM in the main part was what brought that about. Also remember she forgot about Stefan back at the house, Stefan was being taken over by grass and she didnt even know it until Shinichi brought it to her attention. Then that night when shes talking to Stefan she tells him SHE LOVES DAMON, and goes on about other things about Damon. Also she said to Stefan she didnt think she made a difference and Stefan told her that Damon is not calling Matt, Mutt anymore. And Damon did that for her..so he is changing for her.
So I see it, that no she didnt stop thinking of him. He is very much still in the forefront of her mind.
Now we also learned Stefan and Damon have different mothers. I wonder if Meridith is Damon’s mom? They made it clear many times about her DARK GREY EYES, also she is the only one that never was impressed by Damon. Also Damon is very uneasy around her, scared even at times.
Just a thought, but really makes me wonder.
@Michis
The group is called Vampire diaries Shadow souls. Its under the just for fun-totally random category! lol
~~~~SPOILER~~~~~~
Ok so some of you have said that Damon gets turned back into a vampire in Midnight. Im pretty sure I will be pretty happy if that happens! Its just so difficult to picture Damon as a human! However, I cant wait to see how he handles it! Anyway…like Sara said, I doubt Stefan will be the one to change him. Perhaps it could be Sage that changes him back? We know that Sage and Damon knew each other in the past, though I can’t recall why, but I think Damon said something about them not being friends…maybe Sage did something to Damon in the past and in order to set the bar even, Sage will change him? Its just a thought! I really have no idea! lol Let me know you’re thoughts!!! =)
~~~~~~END SPOILER~~~~~~~~~~
Finished the book now and I must say that this book leaves you with more questions than answers, I guess thats a sure fire way to make sure we buy the last book.
One of the most puzzling questions to me is the night at the motel. Damon has his memory of that night wiped by the Sinishi or whatever, but the next morning he says to Elena that she is still unicorn bait, meaning I guess that she is still a virgin. BUT Damon did not know she was a virgin until that night in the motel room, which apparently his memory was deleted about. So……. was the memory of the entire night wiped out or just parts of that night?
When she tells Stefan at the end of the book that she gave Damon everything except that which was his alone (Stefans) to give, was she meaning her virginity or her heart?
I have to say that this is probably one of the most frustrating books I have ever read, especially as we have to wait until the end of the year, for the release of Midnight, to get the answers to so many loose ends and questions that were left at the end.
@Team Damon, you’re right, Merideth could very well be his mother for all we know, like a reincarnation of some sort. But, if it was his mother wouldn’t he suspect it, and also, one of the spoilers said that Merideth might not be HUMAN, Damon’s mother WAS human.
I’ve been thinking about that little summary on LJS’ page for Midnight. What kind of out of body experience could Bonnie have? Will they FINNALLY stop all the mayhem? And will they learn how to control the kitsune with the star balls? I have no idea what will happen next in the book. For all I know someone could randomly float away on a magical pony and slide down a rainbow into a sparkling lagoon of soda. IDK.
~A
i feel so dumb saying this but where in the book did it say that stefan and damon had different mothers?
and, no offense, but dont you guys think that meredith being his mother would be a little far-fetched? and thats the last thing the book needs because i bet all the girls in this book are virgins, but they only pointed out that elena had healing tears
SPOILER!!!!!
LJ Smith in an interview said that The Return Series will be the series where Elena will fall in love with Damon to the same extent that she’s in love with Stefan. However, in another interview it is mentioned that Damon’s transformation from vampire to human will bring him closer with Bonnie McCullough. A new character will also be presented that will be responsible for Damon’s transformation from human back to vampire.
one more thing that really worried me that LJS has some type of memory problem (I haven’t book searched yet, so don’t kill me if I’m wrong) but I could have sworn that Tyrone was the Dr’s GRANDSON, not SON. In Nightfall, it’s made clear that the Dr. (can’t remember her last name) is old with grayish hair, and I’m almost positive when talking about Isobel she says she will call up her GRANDSON (who I thought played college football, but appartrently now goes to their high school & is younger than Matt) to go over there with his sister. But then in Shadow Souls, she calls him her son.
If the description holds true, isn’t she a little old for kids? Maybe I’m just crazy, or forgot but I really thinkshe said he was her grandson. Can anybody tell me?
Did anybody else notices anymore inconsistencies in SS??
@Vampire
A little far fetched? I think not given Elena now hows wings and healing tears and who knows what else LOL
@Clarita
The interview you are quoting has been taking out of context many times. It was a Brazilian interview and her exact words were \”I THINK Damon and Bonnie will become closer\” I am pretty for certain its as friends, given she said the same about Meridith and Meridith and Damon did get closer during this book. Also in that SAME interview she said the two below things, which I pasted for you.
1. What does Damon really feel for Elena? Is it love or is he just physically attracted to her? Sometimes I get the feeling that Elena is interested only because he knows he likes to hurt Stefan.
This is a very good question. At first, Damon was only interested in Elena for the same reason that Stefan was interested initially: he was attracted to her because she has the willpower to turn down him down. Damon himself does not even know exactly why he does things he does, he’s not quite true to himself. But as you’ll see in future books, Damon’s feelings are changing towards Elena. I hope my Spanish publishers recruit the new trilogy, because it focuses precisely on Damon and how their relationship changes dramatically when he gets to keep Elena and that relationship for himself. I think the end of the new trilogy will surprise everyone.
2. Which of the two main characters is your favorite, Damon and Stefan? I love Damon… and Elena, personally.
Well, I think that I agree with you. It is very fun to write about Damon, but many times I don’t even know why he does the things he does. And sometimes Elena feels the same way, she is actually more like Damon than Stefan. She wants to get what he wants when she wants! Although Stefan perhaps is better for her because he is kind and trustworthy, while maintaining a constant internal struggle against his darker self. But anyway, Elena has already made her decision and knows which of the two she wants and who she doesn’t.
@AshleyLovez
We will get to see Damon and his human struggles in the next book. So we wont miss that. :O) Shadow Souls is actually my favorite book of the whole series, I think its definitely more mature and I love that though as well.
when elaina talks to Stefan in this book she seems to talk about damon most of the time and when she talks to damon she like forgets stefan..i thing she is just gradually stepping away from stefan and moving on to damon..i realy hope so.
i realy want them do be together TEAM DAMON!
so i have a question when elaina was wiped did damon have the pain go to him..i think it did but i just wanted to make shure
@carol ann thank you so much but i dont have the book right now, so could you just quote it for me?
@clarita
I read that interview on fanpop.com and I don\’t believe that it is legit. There are no sources listed on it and it was posted three days ago. Also, I find it hard to believe that L.J. Smith would give away major plot twists in an interview.
@ TeamDamon-Thanks for clearing it out for me I just found that interview weird…for L.J Smith to give an interview like that but thanks again for clearing it up for me =]
@ Melody-I just posted that up to get ya opinion on it..I didn’t know if it was a real interview or not.
I definatly think that Damon and Bonnie will get closer even though the spoiler might be fake. Bonnie was the first one to jump into action at Damon being turned into a human. She got him some human food before anyone else even knew what was going on. Also, Bonnie is always friendly to him (except that time in the bath tub when she saw his thoughts about all the blood running in the streets- but that was while he was possessed!) so that will probably help too. I really am excited for Midnight because there are so many untold secrets and total action going to be told. This might be the best Vampire Diaries book ever!
~A
I think the part where Damon and Bonnie get closer is true. But get closer as FRIENDS.
@K I couldn’t agree more. Anyone who can’t see how much Damon is in love with Elena in Shadow Souls is either blind or in denial.
The love triangle is between Stefan, Elena and Damon – not Bonnie. LJ herself said that Elena was going to fall in love with Damon to the same extent that she loves Stefan. Everyone can see in Shadow Souls that Damon loves Elena with all his heart, however, he still believes that she would never want him in that way, that she wants to be with his brother.
I think it may end up a threesome unless one of the brothers dies. Let’s remember, too, that this is Damon’s trilogy, not Stefan’s. It would be a fitting ending to his trilogy if Damon actually got to keep Elena forever, never doubting one second how deeply she loves him.
On a side note, I enjoy coming on here and hearing everyone’s opinion. The fact that everyone is able to keep the peace speaks volumes about what a great group of fans you all are.
I really can’t wait for this book to come out it just sucks that we gotta wait all the way to Dec. so it better be worth the wait lol..
@ K…I also think that Damon & Bonnie are just gonna get close as friends..I think Bonnie would be better for Matt.
I remember reading somewhere that Damon tricks an old friend of hes..so that friend can turn him back into a vampire. I really doubt is gonna be Stefan who turns him back.
*****SPOILER******
@Vampire sorry it took me a little while to find it. It is on page 456 and this is what is said:
\”The stone ball you stick anything that might hurt you inside. You even draw yorself inside it, although it must be very cramped in there. Katherine must be in there, I suppose, walled off in her own little chamber.\” She remembered the night at the motel. \”And your mother, of course. I should say Stefan\’s mother. She was the mother you knew.\”
@K and CrimsonInk I have to agree with you. I thought it was VERY apparent that Damon is totally in love with Elena and it seemed that Bonnie and Meredith started becoming quite aware of the feelings between them. I mean, Bonnie even drug her off to the side that one time in the book and said :What\’s going on with you and Damon you two are acting different you use to not act like this.
isn’t it a little weird how LJS keeps sticking things in there? I know the whole mother thing isn’t a big deal (atleast not now) but still, it’s just one of those things that you wonder why she ever put it in there and why it never came up in the original books that laid the foundation. I guess it’s not as much as the random stuff LJS sticks in as much as it is that they are usually relatively basic facts/things that should have been said or known about in the earlier books. Example: a totally different dimension where evil roam free. If this was known by Stefan & Damon, and it obviously was by Damon, then how come no one ever said, to me it seems like one of those things that would come up when discussing evil/vampires.
You know I don’t know if it was intentional or unintentional but when Stefan is telling Elena in one of the first books about Damon when he says Damon loved his mother very much he does indeed say “He loved MY mother, very much. I always thought it odd that he didn’t say OUR mother, so maybe she did have it in her head that way. IDK
I feel really confused (and really stupid asking this). Can anyone tell me where you are getting December as the release date? I went on Amazon and it said July 1, 2010. I just don’t get where December came from. Can anyone tell me? That would be great!
~A
Ya i saw July 1st but everyone is sayin december
It’s on the vampirediaries.net site. On the right side. It says it’s expected December 8 2010
Yeah, I just checked the VD site and saw that. But which one are we going to trust? I wish LJS would put the exact dates on instead of \’some time in 2010\’.
~A
yea I saw Dec.8th too which seems so long lol
bonnieee and damon foreveer!(8)
Ashley,
What do you mean? Are you saying you dont think she is?
What are everyones thoughts on Damon saying about everyone missing something, in the story of the two brothers dallying with the same girl. What do you think we missed?
Also what are everyones thoughts on the scene where Stefan says he will take “true death” for just one kiss with Elena when she is there visiting him in spirit. He was given that one kiss, so do you think LJ may be letting us in on him possibly dying?
@TeamDamon Of course I don’t really have a clue and I guess things wrong all the time, but the only thing I can think of that we would be missing is maybe Damon didn’t love Katherine? Other than that I don’t know. That’s the only thing that has been said that I can figure. Because Damon never said he loved Katherine we only have Stefan’s narrative about that. But who knows? well, besides L.J.S. LOL
I caught that with Stefan saying that about the true death too. Could be some foreshadowing. We have Damon saying he’ll accept death for ELena and Stefan saying he will for a kiss.
So I was right; there is an editing mistake. In Nightfall Tyrone is Dr. Alpert’s grandson and in Shadow Souls he is her son. Not sure how that works but the evidence is there.
Nightfall page 309: “Well, Tyrone, my grandson, was watching TV when I left.”
Further evidence is on page 518 where Jayneela asked Tyrone “do you think gramma’s okay?” (Jayneela is his sister, which is also described at the bottom of the 518.)
One more piece of backup evidence; page 522 Dr. Alpert says “My granchild” referring to Tyrone & Jayneela.
Now in Shadow Souls page 420 LJS (top) LJS says “Dr Alpert had ruffled her own iron-gray hair with her fingers, then ruffled her son’s black hair fondly.”
and then he (Tyrone) replies “I was, MOM”
I know totally not a big deal, but it’s just yet another example of the serious inconsistences in this new trilogy. I mean come on it’s not that hard to notice that. I understand not everyone pays attention to such a minor character but as soon as read that Dr. Alpert referred to him as her son, I knew that was wrong. If LJS or her publishers can’t keep that straight, I’d hate to know what might be wrong in Midnight. How can someone look over a mistake like that, what is the point in editors if they haven’t even read the previous books? It just makes no sense how he is suddenly her son and she is his mom (I know sometime people refer to boys as “son”) but she is an older lady.
Sorry for the rant, I just had to prove that it was a mistake.
@ashley So are you saying you don’t think Elena is still a virgin but that she’s trying to convince herself that she still is? Remember, Damon tasted her tears the day after that night and said that she was “still unicorn bait.” (SS, page 140) I assume then that she still is but the question still remains: what happened between Damon and Elena that night at the motel? She admitted that she’d lied on page 358 in her thoughts and that Damon didn’t even remember it or he’d be lying, too. I love Damon’s reply to her thoughts: “Whatever happened, I promise I’ll still be around for you,” Damon said softly. “You’ve got my word on that, anyway.” (SS, pages 358 and 359).
Anyone have any thoughts on this subject?
@ashleylovez That’s a sad mistake, isn’t it? Maybe she had a different editor this time around, but still……….I would think/hope the editor would have read Nightfall first to make sure there weren’t any inconsistencies in Shadow Souls.
In an interview a questioner asked if Elena and Stefan will get married. This is Ljs answer
LJ Smith says:
Hi Deanna,
You ask a very good question. If Elena and Stefan had had more time together before Stefan was kidnapped they would probably have gotten married. Elena is 18 and Stefan is . . . really old. (I was never good at math.) Usually that would be pretty young to marry (for Elena) but she knows she will always love Stefan. But, as you will see in Shadow Souls, the next Vampire Diaries book…well, you’ll see!
So is LJ giving us a hint it WILL be Damon???!!
Could the ending shocker be that shes with BOTH?
Read an interview with LJ below, she hints at it
L. J. Smith: Where the girl is sort of saying as her predecessor, which I’m skipping forward in the series a bit ‘cause her predecessor, Katherine who looks just like her, wants both boys to be with her. Elena ends like that too. Elena ends up in the position of wanting both Damon and Stefan, which is like Elena. Although she learns a lot of things, she still is Elena and she can’t really see why monogamy should apply to women when so often it doesn’t apply to men.
on page 456 damon was going to kiss elena but she that this was all for stefan and stefan alone and siad that she would keep that promise if she hadn’t kept to letter forever what does that mean……………………. can someone help me
on page 456 damon was going to kiss elena but she that this was all for stefan and stefan alone and siad that she would keep that promise if she hadn\’t kept to letter forever what does that mean……………………. can someone help me
I love this!!!. I don’t live in America so the books are not in my language yet. But im gonna buy them in english!!!!!! We have the television serie already but there are not so far. I look the episodes online. I like the vampire diaries so much!!! Its amazing. There is just nothing else I can say.
On page 456, She meant her body was Stefans alone. That was the scene where she was wearing the jeweled bikini with the cloak. Even though Damon was upset and she KNEW he wanted her to comfort him, she did not because she had told Stefan that what was under the cloak was his.
@teamdamon In this scene I don’t think Damon wanted to kiss Elena. “He wanted to be held and soothed and told it was all right – just the two of them, under her cloak with her warm arms holding him.” (SS, page 456). He wanted Elena to comfort him and let him know that, regardless of how he was feeling deep inside, everything was going to be all right. Elena decided that she wasn’t going to give Damon what he needed because she had already promised Stefan that “this was for him, alone.” (SS, page 456.) My interpretation of that passage is: Elena has promised she will give everything to Stefan, always, that she will always and only be his. She’s given part of herself to Damon, showing him comfort, love, understanding, etc., therefore breaking her promise to Stefan, but from now on she’s going to “keep to the spirit of that promise, if she hadn’t kept to the letter, forever.” (SS, page 456). She’s going to adhere to her promise even if she hasn’t in the past.
Maybe someone else came away with a different interpretation of that scene and I was way off. Anyone else like to share their thoughts and opinions?
Regarding past questions:
Damon will still probably feel the same (because of what happens at the end of SS) for Elena because her aura has never been normal.
Can anyone give us some background on Camelot?
I’m so annoyed!!! Regarding page 456, it sounds as if Elena is saying, I broke my promise but I’ll still think of it…but theres no saying I won’t do it again but if I do I’ll just think about the promise (to make it better.) How contradicting!!!! It’s like ok I break a promise and then do it again but it’s fine as long as it’s in my mind.
So the question becomes did Elena REALLY break her (new) promise to Stefan? — Her body being only his— Did her and Damon have sex? Because if thats the case the intentions of the promise were broken (not do physical things with Damon, I assume, other than when trying to help him) and she has lied to everyone.
My interuptration of the passage is pretty much the same but in a much simplier way. If you’ve heard the saying “follow it to a T” then it makes more sense; Although Elena hasn’t done everything the promise entailed to the T (this is where the LETTER part comes into play) which I would guess is NOT hooking up with Damon, she’s still going to do some part of that. For example limiting the amount of physical interaction, which in this case is literally below the shoulders….that is unless there was something going on we don’t know about. It’s like saying I promise I will never do drugs and then once breaking that promise changing it to I promise I will never do these specific drugs (leaving out what you already did.) Hope that analogy works, even though its weird.
Lilly,
Camelot is referring to Guenevere and Lancelot.
Elena= Guenevere and Damon= Lancelot
AshleyLovez,
It does sound like her and Damon did something physical…
I really hope Delena are end game. After all the books, particularly SS they are the only realistic ending to me. I wouldn’t find Bamon believeable if they were end game and I dnt think Elena is in love with Stefan as much as Damon otherwise she wouldn’t have any feelings for Damon. I dnt think Bonnie would get with Damon after finding our Elena’s feelings for him.
So Delena FTW..
Oh, right! Thanks Team Damon!
Woah, we are close to 1,000 posts!
Elena and Damon /did/ do something physical…they held that kissing pose for the longest time. But after that…well, only Elena and Shinichi know…
i have a plan let resqust to lj simt that damon and elena are a way beter coupel then stefan and elena if you think about it deep down even elena nows that with damon she has lot of fun but wihe stafan it the same old thing makeing out come one boring. if you agree with me then leav a comment.
TEAM DAMON 4 EVE WISE HE WAS MINE BUT NOT
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Team Damon for sure!!!!!!!! I love him so much. I sincerely hope that L.J. puts Elena and Damon together at the end of the series. I was extremely disappointed in the ending of this story. SPOILER I thought that the way that Damon was turned into a human was ridiculous. Damon would never have been interested in the flowers. He doesn’t care about stuff like that. Plus he is entirely to smart to pick up something that was given by a kitsune. He knows all the tricks. He is extremely intelligent. Very clever. Then on top of everything else everyone is treating it like it is no big deal, Everyone is practically laughing at him. It’s horrible. Then Stefan is such an ungrateful person. He immediatle jumps all over Damon just like he always does. He doesn’t seem to know or care that Damon just risked his life to save him like five minutes ago. That doesn’t matter to him. He is a crazy whiny baby who thinks that Damon has no greater purpose in life than to annoy him. Stefan needs to grow up. The absolute last thing that Damon ever wanted to do was to become human. Stefan acts as though Damon planned the whole thing. He knew exactly what the flowers were for right? He just wanted to become human for kicks. Just to annoy Stefan. Yeah that’s right. So as far as what happens to Stefan in Midnight. I just don’t care. As long as Damon is happy. That is all that matters. I really hope that LJ puts Elena and Damon together. They need each other. Sorry about the rant. I just needed to get all that off of my chest. Hope to hear everyone’s thoughts. Let’s go 1000!!!!!
Well, I am with all of you Damon/Elena fans. I absolutely adore Damon and I have through out the books not just in the more recent ones. Unlike some, I don’t hate Stefan. I just find him boring. It’s described in the books much like how I see it, There is a ‘fire’ when it comes to Elena and Damon. Stefan and Elena not so much. I mean theres love for sure, but not the same kind of ‘KAPOW’ you get with Damon and Elena. I mean even in every day relationships ‘most’ people don’t want a hum drum, I’ll do whatever you want me to, type of relationship. I think ‘most’ ppl want some one who challenges them, who brings out their inner fire, who doesn’t cave to their every whim. And that’s how it is in the books too. So for me Damon/Elena is the best way to end the books.
It has been a great experience coming on here and reading everyones thoughts and also( and most importantly ) it has been great seeing how many Damon/Elena supporter there are, until I came here I thought I was one of the few, but here and other forums I’ve been on I’ve come to realize I’m not the only one who finds them to be a very compelling couple worthy of a HEA.
I should have said too, that it amazes me how Damon has already won over so many ppl on the T.V. show too. I mean on the show he’s portrayed worse than in the books and he’s still winning over fans. That’s impressive, of course it doesn’t hurt that Ian is HOT
WOW!!!looks like some have enjoyed the book and some haven’t?all i know is that i enjoyed reading the comments even though i haven’t read the book yet(LOL)!!!
now i really hope 4 a damon and elena HEA…
I dont see it ending any other way but with Damon and Elena.
As for her stopping at Midnight, she said she was going to write more. So unless she changes her mind, there will be more. Which I would love if Damon and Elena end up together.
I don’t see it ending any other way but with Damon and Elena.
As for her stopping at Midnight, she said she was going to write more. So unless she changes her mind, there will be more. Which I would love if Damon and Elena end up together.
Yay 1000!!!! I DON’T HATE Stefan. I was just really really mad at him at the end of the book. I also LOVED the book up unitl the last four or five pages. I thought it was amazing!!!!!! I just hope that others feel the same way. Ok now everybody “Let’s go Team Damon/Elena!!!!!!!! Most of us seem to want them to be the couple who ends up together. Come on LJ give us what we want. Damon and Elena are the best together. Big thanks to LJ for creating these characters. Look at how many people really care. It has been exactly one year today since the teaser was originally released. That is dedication. So thanks LJ. We LOVE DAMON and ELENA!!!!!!!!!! That’s all I’ve got to say. Bye
Yes, THANK YOU to LJ! Shadow Souls is my favorite book out of all the Vampire Diaries books. I love Damon and Elena together and I hope it will end that way. They are why I read these books.
i know LJS said she was going to write more, but I hope she doesn’t. That will only give her more time to delay Elena decision between Stefan and Damon. Does anybody agree? Come on, you know LJS isn’t going to stop with Damon & Elena and continue on with the books. How stupid would that be though (if she writes more?) She would just keep stringing us along with the whole whose Elena gonna pick thing and I honestly hope she doesn’t. Even though I am for Stefan & Elena, if the books end with Damon & Elena, I’ll get over it. I don’t want this to drag out just because theres a TV show, I want to know who Elena picks and for that to be the end of it. Because once Elena picks the story is really over, anything after that would just be overkill (kind of like with Twilight, she can’t write any more stories around it because it would have no action & ruin the HEA.) If 3 more books get released will just be waiting another 3 years to know who Elena really will end up with. Even if it’s Damon & Elena at the end of Midnight, and she continues writing, that can easily change when some crazy thing happens and Elena realizes she doesn’t love Damon. I just pray that she ends it right, regardless of who Elena chooses, and gives us the answers we’ve been dying to know rather than run this series into the ground.
i agree with everyone who thinks she should stop writing after midnight. elena should pick someone, and we should all know who. i’ve heard that she wants to write a trilogy in stefans eyes, and if she doesn’t tell us who elena picks by the end of midnight, ill be so pissed.
Team Damon!!!
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I totally agree with you guys who say that L J Smith needs to STOP writing Vampire Diaries, because it`s a little too much… Give us Damon and Elena in the end of the midnight and we will love ya forever Mrs SMith!!!!
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I also recommended to read Dark Vissions (by L J Smith) and The Forbidden Game ( by L J Smith). Books are very similar to Vampire Diaries, so enjoy.
(sorry for my english)
hey, no one’s been commenting for a while. usually people are commenting everyday.
Yep, your right Kylie It’s been awhile since anyone has been on. SO I will come on long enough to say my usual. GO DAMON AND ELENA. WOOT WOOT
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS PART OF THE BOOK WAS CHANGED! I THINK SHE SHOULD OF LEFT ALL OF THE SCENES WHERE DAMON AND ELENA START TO LOVE EACH OTHER IN THE BOOK. I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS AND THEN WHEN I GOT TO THIS PART IN THE BOOK ITS DIFFERENT, AND I HATED THAT SHE CHANGED IT. IF THIS LITTLE PART OF THE BOOK STAYED IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER.
have you guys noticed that damon never cried in this book? i thought that damon crying would be a pretty big part of this book.
@selena i have something close to what you said: Have you guys noticed that Damon never cried in this book?
I thought that Damon crying would be a pretty big part of this book.
@selena
i have something close to what you said: Have you guys noticed that Damon never cried in this book?
I thought that Damon crying would be a pretty big part of this book.
http://www.vampire-diaries.net/books/new-vampire-diaries-prequel-trilogy-stefans-diaries has confirmed there will be yet /another/ Vampire Diaries trilogy…great…If it’s Stefan’s Diaries…then…I’m afraid…Elena may end up with…
Please, LJS, Damon /needs/ Elena!! And Elena, as much as she’d like to deny it, /needs/ Damon as well!!
A prequel is a work that supplements a previously completed one, and has an earlier time setting.
so i dont think it will be about stefan and elaina..so maby this means damon and elana will be together…i realy hope so!!!!
maby it will be about him when he drank human blood? idk
@ Selena
I agree, I dont know why she changed it from what we read here because it was perfect. I had a hard time getting over the change when I read Shadow Souls.
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@ Lilly,
Its a pre equal. Which means its Stefans life BEFORE he came to Mystiq Falls. I think this means Damon and Elena will be together in the end and Stefan will die. I think shes letting the news of this book out early to kinda calm the storm before it happens. So Stefan fans will have something to look forward too.
this is just my opinion, but she should really stop writing. i mean, i love the books, but she originally planned on writing 3 books. fans pressured her to write dark reunion, so she did. now, sixteen years later, after twilight came along, she decided she wanted more money and shes writing another trilogy. and another. i dont care if its a prequel or not, but i dont think a lot of people will but it.
Is LJ forshadowing Stefans death in Midnight?
Shadow Souls page 334
Stefan- “God,just give me one moment with her! Just a single moment! I can bear anything then, even the true death. Just one moment to touch her!”
Stefan got that one moment a second after.
@Team Damon- yeah i was thinking about that too! but then we never know what is going to happen in these books! So far, there have been quite a few instances that could have been considered foreshadowing and nothing has come out of it yet, but who knows, maybe this one will actually happen.
Yeah it was confirmed on vampire-diaries.net that LJ is going to write yet another trilogy called “Stefan’s Diaries”, but its supposed to be a prequel to the first books, so I guess that means that it will be about Stefan’s life before he meets Elena.
I agree with everyone else, I dont think she should write anymore Vampire Diaries books. As much as I love the books, I think that to write anymore will ruin the series. So I guess Im glad that ‘Stefan’s Diaries’, isnt after the return books, because I really dont want her to drag this out any longer! and Im trying to figure out what exactly she could write about Stefan before Elena? From what I understood, his life was pretty boring up until Elena came into it, so what is she going to write about? I personally cant figure out how this trilogy is going to be very good because I just cant imagine what more can be said about Stefan’s life! lol and she is going to make it a trilogy???? Idk, maybe she will prove me wrong and it will somehow be amazing! lol I absolutely LOVE the vampire diaries, but sometimes, enough is enough! lol
I agree that she shouldn’t write another trilogy, especially not about Stefan… Come on… he must be one of the most boring characters ever… Anyway Shadow Souls was great, I loved all the Damon+Elena scenes but i have to point out that Elena was infuriating throughout the whole book. GOD! Is she blind or what? How can she say after everything that happened between her and Damon that she belongs with Stefan blah blah blah. I wanted to shake her so hard!!! She was totally deluding herself. So immature… Well, I hope Damon and Elena end up together because Damon deserves it more than anyone (and so do we after 6 books). And poor poor Stefan can have… let’s say Bonnie with my blessings
Frankly I don’t care what he’ll do, I just want my DE HEA.
@Caterina
I agree with every word that you said. Literally.
@Caterina,so,so true.
damon and elena!
Here, Here, Caterina, so true, so true. I also agree 100% with you. I already felt like Damon needed Elena more than Stefan did and SS convinced me of that. I mean this time we got it straight out of Elena’s mouth when she’s talking to Meredith (i think) that Damon needed her more than even Stefan. In Elena’s dream (when she’s in the tub) when he says he doesn’t belong anywhere it just broke my heart. Then to find out he and Stefan didn’t have the same mother, wonder what happened to Damon’s mother? Was he a product of one of his fathers affairs? Or from a previous marriage? Unusual for the father to end up with the child unless his real mother also died.
Any way, all I know is I am team Damon/Elena all the way. I am soooooooo hoping that that’s how it will end. Damon may not have always been ‘good’ but he took alot of lumps in SS. Taking that beating for Elena, he saved all the girls more than once, then the beak to the back for Elena, and he put his own feelings for Elena on the back burner for Elena and Stefan at the end. I think he has sacraficed enough and it’s time he got something good in his life. (I’ll get off my soap box now, LOL)
I wanted to point out and get opinions about the part at the end when shinichi is pointing out everyones secrets: For most of the book we believe Shinichi took Damon’s memory of the motel, but at the end he says “and what about the night at the motel that it seems only Elena can recall” I mean I could be wrong but the way he stated that made it seem like he didn’t take Damon’s memory?
@ Jaya
I dont think Damon knows..if he did then he would have sweeped Elena up and carried her off into the darkness LOL
I think he will get a rush of his memories back in Midnight and its going to be bitersweet to see that
I am not really interested in the prequel book coming out about Stefan, it would have been more interesting if she had written about Damon. He is by far the more interesting character.
@Damon Forever I was very disappointed with SS and totally agree with you that the ending was crap. I definitely had a very WTF moment when I was reading about the flowers and thought how ridiculous and out of character the whole thing seemed.
About whether Elena is still a virgin and Damon’s comment about her still being unicorn bait. I believe they did have sex at the motel but Damon’s memory of it was wiped by Sinichi so when he makes that comment about her still being a virgin it is only because he has no memory of what he and Elena did the night before. I also have a feeling that this somehow ties in with the bath tub scene and the dream that she has while in the tub and the voices saying something about ” it will germinate inside her until the time is ready.” Now that Damon is human I believe (and really, really hope) that they will end up together and get married and she find odut that she’s pregnant (because of the night at the motel.) I really hope that Midnight ties up all these loose ends and is a better written book than SS was.
@delena
I just wonder what the prequel will be about. The books make it sound like Stefan didn’t do anything interesting until he met Elena. I wish the prequel was about Damon too, at least his story would definitely be more interesting. Hopefully Damon will show up a few times in the prequel.
I agree I am trying to figure out what she will find to write about Stefan. I’m sure Stefan fans will be happy. but like Sara said we are led to believe Stefan didn’t EVER take human blood prior to Elena’s and he admitted to living in the shadows. I don’t know maybe she will take it in another direction and do away with alot of what she said in the first books.
IMO what started out as a really good artistic endevour in the first few books has now gone too commercial and she is whoring herself out to the publishers in much the same way as Stephanie Meyer (Twilight) is doing with her latest mini book about Bree. Perhaps I should be reserving my opinion until after Midnight is released, but SS was, to me anyway, a major let down. Now there will be more books about the Vampire Diaries from Stefans perspective the same as Stephanie Meyer is writing more Twilight books from Edwards perspective. Guess when they realize they have a cash cow they just want to milk it dry.
When I first heard there was gonna be a prequel with Stefan, I thought it was going to be about the Damon/Stefan/Katherine story. Seeing as Stefan pretty much didn’t do anything for 500 hundred years that’s the only thing I could think would be in the prequel. Unless its about before he and Damon ever met Katherine, then it could be about their rivalry and how they started to hate each other.
I think Elena will end up with Damon because in \”The Awakening\”(the first book),when Elena, Bonnie and Meredith did that test to find out who you would marry or something, it was Damon who appeared,not Stefan. Wonder if L.J. Smith herself remembers that……
@Asrathiel that “dumb supper” as it was called in the book, has been brought up on here several times before by several different ppl. I know alot of us fans haven’t forgotten about it and I would imagine some of them have mentioned it to her from time to time. But, even if they haven’t I would think L.J.S. would have gone back and read over the first books prior to starting the new trilogy, but since there were several continuity problems I guess there is always a chance she doesn’t remember. As a Damon/Elena shipper I haven’t forgotten it and I’m probably not the only one.
Agreed about the Stefan triology the only way that ‘MIGHT’ work is if it includes Damon and the only way for that to happen since they didn’t exactly ‘hang’ together as vampires, is to make it about when they were human. Still don’t know how 3 books about that would be interesting.
I liked SS, it had it’s moments (LOL, Damon and Elena moments). It got off track from time to time I imagine that was ‘filler’ as ppl like to call it. But all in all I did like it and I am excited about Midnight. I’m hoping for my D and E HEA.
omg! thts so awful!! damon cant be a mortal!! ewwwwww anyways im v much in love with damon so im totally for delena as i love to read elena going through those kind of feelings for him i soo hope she ditches stupid soppy stephen and goes for the fire inside her………..
anyways off to read more spoilers lol
p.s. i CAN NOT see bonnie and damon together its sooo wrong soz anyone out there who likes the idea but its NOT gonna happen
oh and the secret is tht elena has become a shadow soul
lolz
Damon and Elena HEA!!!
Love them!!!
But i hope that Midnight will be the LAST book… !!!
L J Smith please stop writting VD!!!
Well, without going back and seeing exactly who said what I’m going to give my opinions.
I agree with whoever said they believed Damon and Elena DID have sex. After some careful re-reading I too think they had sex, I’m just not sure why Elena’s tears still made Damon think she was ‘unicorn bait’ unless that has more to do with her essence than her actual virginity.
I also agree with the ppl who said they preferred this teaser to what was actually in the book. I’m guessing the child and stone ball ‘may’ have changed that. As soon as I started reading it I wont lie I ‘almost’ put down the book and wasn’t going to read it but I stuck with it. And I’m glad I did, Damon and Elena did have some moments that were great. Just wish she wouldn’t have seemingly discarded him the minute she got Stefan back, that Did not sit well with me. Ultimately, I’ll be happy with just about anything as long as Damon and Elena end up together.
I haven’t said anything because I wanted to see if anyone else would mention it first, but here goes: Didn’t it seem like maybe Damon and Elena have some sort of history or past that either she or both of them have forgotten? There were several things in this book that came off that way to me. And I will be happy to point them out if anyone else is interested or agrees. Just seeing if I’m nuts or others got that opinon too.
@Kayla
What made you think they had some history they forgot? I definitely got the feeling there was something between them we or they don’t know, but I just figured it was what happened in the hotel room.
@Kayla Are you talking about the dream Elena had while she fell asleep in the bathtub at the motel? The part where the voices were arguing about her, saying “A second chance? I’ve spoken to her about it.” and “It will germinate inside her…..until the time is right.” has always confused me.
Or are you talking about the part where Elena watched the memory of John and Allegra in the star ball and after she watched it, Damon pipes up with “Perhaps you got an especially *warm* summer day?” That part didn’t make a lot of sense to me, unless Damon read her mind while she was viewing the memory contained in the star ball.
Please let us know what you’ve found and what you think because I, for one, am very curious.
I’ve gone through and highlighted some of the parts that stuck out to me and here are some of them. Please fill free to comment and let me know what you all think:
1.Page 26 “Damon was gazing at her with wonder and a look she was all too used to seeing-but she couldn’t remeber where”
(next page) Elena found she was ‘instinctively’ groping for the mind of the one kissing her so sweetly.
2.Page 102 ‘of course she had a dark streak in her that her friends simply called wild, but that Damon recognized for what it really was.
3.Page 109-110 (the dream) This was ’so familiar’, she ‘knew’ this ( Then in this passage, I don’t know about anyone else but I knew she was describing Damon NOT Stefan before we found out it was Damon) He was her magic, her solace, her best beloved It didn’t matter how he had gotten there or what happened before. He was her souls eternal mate. He vowed not to kill but he would kill to save her.
(this seemed important) ‘any’ sacrafice would be worth it if she were ’safe’ and ‘free’. (the free part is what intrigued me)
4.She buried her head in his neck afraid to let him go although she couldn’t remember why.
5.When she realizes its Damon in the dream he says “who else?”
6.He knew her weak spots not just any womans he knew hers”
7.(the one I’m still trying to figure out) ‘My death will let loose her powers’ (How and why his death specifically)
Now a couple of these times it is a bit ambiguous like you could think it’s because shes thinking of Stefan, BUT maybe not?
What were some of your favorite parts of SS?
A non je trouve que Damon serait mieu avec elena que avec bonnie j’aime pas bonnie et je trouve que bonnie devrai sortir avec Matt et Damon avec elena et stefan avec caroline !!
@Lily, As a Damon/Elena fan, i loved most of their moments one of my favorites was when he was healing her wounds, and when they were dancing together. We got robbed out of knowing what all when on in the motel, I hope when Damon remembers we get a full recap. LOL
@Lily, I loved all the Damon and Elena moments. I liked the scene where he is healing her wounds. I liked the part where they are dancing together. we were robbed out of the motel scene but hopefully when Damon remembers we will get a full recap. LOL
Sorry didn’t mean for the double post, I posted and it didn’t show up so I re wrote it and posted now they are both up???
@ Kayla, I absolutely LOVE your comments!!
I know from a few of LJ Smiths other books that “Souls Mates” are defined as the ones who have electricity shot through them. If you noticed in Shadow Souls there were a few times that happen between Damon and Elena. The first time if you remember they couldnt get their hands apart from one another and Meridith and Bonnie looked at them shocked, with an “ahah” type face.
I wonder if shes meaning the same with her other books with the electricity between Damon and Elena. If that is the case then that would answer a lot of how some of these scenes read
(His death would let lose her powers etc.)
@Team Damon I’ve always enjoyed your post too. I’ve enjoyed coming here very much and hearing everyones opinions and especially finding out there are alot of us Damon and Elena fans. I hope L.J.S realizes how many of us are out there and gives us our D/E HEA.
I agree with you about the electricity they feel between them. I don’t recall her saying she felt that with Stefan. And she said it quite a few times in SS about feeling it when her and Damon touched or kissed and she mentioned the ‘inner shiver’ she got too. (another thing that makes me wonder if they have a past) after all someones secret is that they have had their memory erased and that dream would suggest that is Elena)
@ Kayla
No, Elena never had the electricity with Stefan.
My guess also is the one with the memory taken was Elena. I think the dream is something that happen already.
I am pretty sure the murderer is Mrs Flowers (in a few of the books Elena and Matt got the feeling she was someone who would be hiding bodies. She also always had blood available for Stefan and Damon)
@Kayla My question is this: if Elena and Damon do share some sort of history or past, is it only Elena who has forgotten? Do you think Damon remembers anything at all since he did mention “My death will let loose her powers” when he thought he was about to die?
@CrimsonInk, that’s one of the things that I’m confused about. Because for the most part I would have said I thought neither of them remembered except for the comment you posted where he says that about his death unleashing her powers. But, another thought I had was if I’m right and they share a past, either Elena would have to be a reincarnation or it’s happened in her lifetime, I mean Damon has been around for over 500 years.
I mean I am only casting an opinion on this I just know as I was reading I was like ‘whoa’ this sounds like they have a past and I posted some of the reasons why. That’s not all of them either just some of the more significant ones. But, ultimately I could be totally wrong. It would be a very clever way for L.J. to work the story with Damon and ELena. Especially with all those ‘we were meant to be together’ comments throughout the books. But, given someones memory was erased (and the dream would at least suggest that is Elena) then you factor in all those comments about her saying ‘this is familiar’ I ‘knew’ this. would certainly make you wonder.
@Team Damon, you could be right, I never even thought of Ms. Flowers as the murderer. I was trying to place a secret with each of the main characters and it didn’t always work out even, so you could definitely be on to something there.
@Kayla,
I love your opinions..keep them coming :O)
dryers that you write line after line o these imaginary people. good luck,,,
Day after day do you write about imaginary people created by a woman who is still in its teen but is over 50 years old. wake up and smell the café
@ Dume
Just woke up, DRANK the cafe and loved it..haha
Also it is great to have an imagination and passions and things you look forward too. Which is why books are so popular
For real, why come here and read and comment if you have no interest. Or maybe you are a Damon/Bonnie fan who isn’t happy after SS. LOL
@exciteme and Dumle
That is hysterical. Anyone who would come on here in the first place. Take the time to read peoples comments and then make a post to say something negative is quite hypocritical if you ask me. I guess you haven’t woken up and smelled the ‘coffee’ yourself. LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL
I think Elena is gonna choose Stephan, even though she has deep feelings for Damon, I think she’s just gonna stay with the first one. She loved Stephan long before Damon so I think the end is going to be this way.
Remember; Bonnie said she saw her future and she’ll die young and beautiful. I think Elena is going to give the rose to Stephan, you know, that rose that Shinishi will give her and has the power to turn a vampire into human. Elena living a normal and happy life with Stephan, and Damon (who enjoys his vampire life) would turn Bonnie (she saw she’s gonna die young and she definitely has feelings for Damon just like he has for her).
So what do you think?
@Nastia, that may be what happens. But, it’s not the way I want things to end. I hope Elena ends up with Damon. I guess some ppl like Damon/Bonnie together because 1. It leaves Elena with Stefan and 2. Bonnie is the only other person Damon seemed to like at least til SS. He was equally nice and protective in Meredith in this book. BUT, after SS I don’t see how it could happen with Damon and Bonnie. Damon’s feelings for Elena were too deep and revealing in SS. I don’t see how Damon’s feelings would suddenly change. It’s not like he falls in love at the drop of a hat. JMO
@Carol, Lol! I agree with you but all what I want is a happy end, i’ve not read SS yet so maybe I’ll have another point of view after reading it but I really wonder what kind of end it could to this: I mean 2 vampire brothers in love with the same human girl who is the exact double of their old love, the one who turned them into vampire! I mean there’s too much story in it, so of course there gonna be an end with some people happy, some others sad, maybe dead…I just hope that Elena won’t kill herself (like Stephan “thought” Kathrine did) but I don’t want her to choose both of them too, it would be disgusting! so I think the best end possible is Elena and Stephan, both human (as Stephan really wants to be human) and as Damon enjoys his vampire life he could turn someone that he does care about, and so far, Bonnie is the only one that Damon cared about!
@Nastia. You May change your mind about things after you read SS. Unless you are a die hard Stefan/Elena fan. Because Damon and Elena get alot closer in this book and they have some really great moments and it becomes very obvious they have some deep feeling for each other.
I’m not sure Bonnie would want to be a vampire. And the fact remains that two vampires really can’t share intimacy just companionship. With Elena Damon could have a real relationship since her aura makes it possible for them to be intimate. Frankly even though I don’t dislike Stefan, I’m hoping he’s the one that finds love with someone else. I don’t want him miserable but I do believe Damon needs Elena in a way that Stefan may not.
@Carol Maybe Stefan will see how good Elena is for Damon and how she’s the only one to bring out the good in him and influence him for the better. If Stefan sees all this and sees how much Damon loves her, especially if he notices how deep Elena’s feelings run for Damon, maybe he’ll step aside. For Elena’s sake and for Damon’s.
@CrimsonInk you may be right that would be very noble of Stefan. I know I will get hammered for this by the Stefan fans but in all honesty (and I KNOW stefan loves Elena) Stefan seems interested in just being with Elena and sharing blood. Even with her aura he hasn’t tried to take it beyond that, Yet anyway. But with Elena and Damon it’s much more passionate or at least in my opinion. And I haven’t forgotten that comment in Nightfall when Elena goes to see Stefan with the magic key and she tells him to “Act like you love me” I can’t believe that is just a throw away line, maybe Elena senses something about his feelings we haven’t read yet. Someones secret is the ’secret stolen kiss’ maybe it’s gonna be Stefan and someone??? Hey, I’m down with that. I just want my DandE HEA. LOL
@Carol I never realized that before but you’re right! If Stefan has been “turned on” like a human before I don’t think L.J. has ever mentioned it unless I missed something. Instead, it’s just the blood sharing and kissing between he and Elena. Elena’s been naked before around Stefan and correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t he turn around or try not to look at her? Damon, on the other hand, wants to make love, his desire for Elena has been stated clearly multiple times.
I sort of see Stefan as worshiping the ground Elena walks on, putting her up on an ivory pedestal. I know Stefan loves her, there’s no doubt in my mind about that, but what if his desire to become human again is stronger than his love for her?
Damon, though, seems to love the fire that’s inside Elena. In Nightfall on page 544 it reads “Stefan was her lynchpin but Damon was the fiery breath beneath her wings. However far she went, Damon seemed to lure her on just a little farther.” I don’t think Damon sticks Elena on any pedestal, he treats her as an equal and is always honest with her. He respects her and wants both of them to share power together, to rule together. There’s more of an equality there.
The other thing I’ve always wondered is how can Elena end up with either of them, forever, without becoming a vampire again herself? Unless, of course, Damon doesn’t get turned back into a vampire in Midnight or if Stefan becomes a human. Elena is human, although she still has her wings powers, so I’m assuming she can age and eventually die. Any thoughts?
Maybe you’re right about the “secret stolen kiss” and it’s Stefan and Bonnie or Stefan and Meredith. We know Bonnie likes Stefan and thinks he’s gorgeous, but then again, Bonnie seems to think that of most of the guys in the books. lol
I, too, hope that Delena will be end game.
@CrimsonInk. Yep, Yep, Yep. I agree. Damon and Elena’s relationship is more ‘realistic’ for lack of a better word. They argue, butt heads, challenge each other and push each other. Stefan just lets Elena ‘run the show’. I guess that’s why I find Stefan boring. He broods about being a vampire and lets it keep him from being truly happy.
I don’t know how the ‘forever’ thing will play out either. If what I have read is true Damon will become vampire again in Midnight. So, maybe Elena will change (she’s certainly had enough blood from Damon and probably Stefan too.) or whatever she is now may make her not completely human. I mean, she died as a mortal, came back as a vampire, died as a vampire, then came back a spirt child, and now she has powers. Maybe she isn’t fully human anymore. IDK. I just hope she chooses Damon. I love reading the parts in the book that involve them.
I have read Shadow Souls. Its amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carol I totally agree with you. Stefan just seems boring and lets Elena be in charge of everything. damon and Elena challange each other more and have better chemistry than stefan and elena.
Its like with stefan and elena she\\\\\\\’s always going on about how stefans such a nice person theres no chemistry or passion. Example with Stefan she only described her first kiss with him. With Damon she has described every kiss she has had with him proving that she likes it more when Damon kisses her.
She should choose Damon because they need each other as they bring out the better side of each other, better chemistry ( basically better kisses ), Damon Elena need each other while stefan wants her, at first stefan saw her as katherine while damon sees her as how she is, damon and elena are more equals and elenas more honest with damon and finally damon loves her just as much just because he dosn\\\\\\\’t let her wallk all over him like stefan does dosn\\\\\\\’t mean he dosn\\\\\\\’t care for her as much,
The annoying thing is that I\\\\\\\’m 99.9% she is going to end up with Saint Stefan because stefan is such a loner he would never get over the heartbreak and be so devastated if she went with damon he would become a emo. This is by the way my ideal ending. I reqally want elena to get with damon.
SPOILER
the secret is elena is a
Virgin
This is true i read the book its on amazon
@Addictedtovampireromance, well your right, in the first books Stefan is drawn to her because she looks like Katherine but when Damon and Stefan have their confrontation in the woods Damon says right off “you think shes like Katherine, She’s not” so he seemed to be drawn to her for reasons other than Katherine. You may be right Stefan may be end game. but that will suck as far as I’m concerned. I want my D and E ending/ I’m not sure anything beyond that will make it Okay for me. I guess I would be all right with a threesome though I’m not sure how that would work/
Well, something else to consider is. Stefan has been in ‘jail’ he may not even be the same person any more. That is yet to be seen. I mean Stefan from previous books would NEVER have taken blood from Meredith, Bonnie and Matt. And I dont think it can be said that he just didn’t want to die, because he was already alot better, in the first book or was it the second book, he was willing to let himself die instead of taking blood from Elena she had to cut herself and force it on him. So Stefan maybe different now that could potentially change how Elena feels for him or maybe even how he feels for her. IDK
@Michelle your right, Stefan wouldn’t take Bonnie’s blood when she offered in the 4th book because he said he had vowed not to take human blood to sustain himself, and that sharing blood meant love. So that would indicate he’s changed at least some. I don’t know where it will lead this may help cause a ‘riff’ between them.
Who will Elena choose, Damon or Stefan? Exciting, I can not sleep or drinki , what should I do? My life has been taken over by a book written by old-fashioned lady. Help me … Must be great being living so far from reality.
@Dumle your life must have gotten taken over with the need to come to this board. For someone who has no interest you sure seem obsessed with what all of us have to say. IF it bothers you so much why come here??? And for the record I don’t know any teenage writers who write teenage books they are all middle aged so what’s your point?
hey, where’s everybody ?
I think some comments have been deleted or something, what happened?
hey all!!!does any1 know if and when we will b getting another teaser for the next VD book that is coming out in dec?.this shadow souls teaser really kept us going…
I haven’t heard. If it’s true that Midnight is coming out in Dec. she should be about finished with it. I did visit her website recently and she mentioned she was fixin’ to re do it and put up sneak peeks and deleted scenes. But, I don’t know when cause it didn’t specify
can’t believe it!
damon should be with bonnie, not with elena
@ Carol,
LOVING your comments..your right on point!!
what is L.J Smith’s website?
@ashley
her website’s ljsmith.net
@ashley SORRY, its actually ljanesmith.net
so right now im on page 16 of shadow souls, yeah i know its not that far, but i justa started reading it today, im a late fan bloomer. but anyways, i was wonering if anyoen could tell me if elena and damon kiss anymore through out the book? because meredith and bonnie just got there, so i would think they dont have anymore privacy to kiss anymore, unfortunately.
signed, dearest old team stefan, truest new team damon and forever team threesome.
oh i ment page 160* btw.
Hi people,
Sorry for my English, I’m from the Netherlands, and I’m also a huge fan of TVD, I can’t wait to read Midnight
But do you remember what Bonnie said in book 1????
She said something about that she will die young, and that she would look beautiful and young in her burial. So she might be the one who dies at the end?!?!?!?!?
@Mel yes, you are right. Bonnie very well might be the one who dies. I don\’t know how specific L.J.S was about who would die if she just said \”someone will die\” it could be Ms. Flowers or Shinichi for that matter. Does anyone know if she said specifically it would be one of the primary characters? Bonnie dying wouldn\’t be a problem for me, I just don\’t want Damon, Elena or really even Stefan to die.
I think it could simply be Elena, just like Kathrine but for other reasons. maybe will finally have that end when the brothers are okay with each others and when there\’s no bad feelings between them.
I don\’t know but I think it could be logical, right?
otherwise it could also be Bonnie, why not dying to turn into vampire?
what do you think about it guys?
I just read the 6th book, and guys, I can\’t shake the feeling that Damon for ONCE should get the girl. Don\’t get me wrong, I feel for Stefan, I think he has a pure heart and all, but, I can\’t help but feel that Damon also deserves to have something special and REAL in his life, not that endless flirtation when at the end he knows that his love, again, will depart to be in the arms of his brother… I am REALLY hoping that the next book will be the one that will let Damon finally get the girl. Honestly, the book left a sour taste in my mouth since for a moment I thought that things were gonna go differently. There\’s still one more book left, but I\’m losing hope that things will change, because, endings are never like that… Bad boy never gets the girl, and, ugh, that\’s sad.
Thank you very mush for it !!
It’s super !
Anyone hear any new news about TVD: The Return: Midnight??
I was just on the Wikipedia page for TVD novels and it says Midnight is scheduled to be released April 2011!!! *dies*
11 months!!!
on amazon it says july 1 2010.please release the book already
UK cover is up.. says this fansite. Hopefully that means Midnight will be published in July rather than next year.
Ive heard Midnight is to be released in December of this year, but I would totally be ok with it being in July like someone else mentioned! Ive read Shadow Souls twice now, and Im still trying to figure out what the secrets are shinichi said at the end!!! I have a feeling we are all going to be surprised about how they turn out!!! aaahhh!!! I cant wait for the next book!!!
That was so awesome!!!
The season one finale was good to!!! did anyone else watch the show? From what i heard it comes out in August {the dvd}
SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i watch it and i enjoy it,but i`m more of a book fan.
the show it`s waaay different
i really cant wait for midnight. i read shadow souls and wow i was just amazed. vampire diaries is my alltime favorite. i wath the show too and you gguys know in the season finale when elena or possibly katherine said i am gonna go get the dress from school well i wanna know if it was elena or katherine and where did katherine get the exact same neclace as elena. i mean like seriously i cant wat a whole summer forit to come back and i want midnight to come out right now. i would probably die without vampire diaries i am obsessed and addicted iread my favorite parts of the books every night and i have seen every episode at least 7 times. i love blood borthers i mean it was kinda my favortie i have many favortite parts in all the episodes like it turning point… you guys know what im talking about… but i loved blood blothers. and to anyone who wants to know i am and forever will be a stelena fan. i am team stefan but i mean seriously why cant we all just be team elena the feud between stefan and damon will never end y ant we all just be team elena anyone would die to be her… and wake up four days later a vampire
…,.comment and tell me what you think!!!!
omg i watched the finale and it upset me. really. i loved the show but what ticked me off was that elena and damon didn’t kiss because of that b*tch katherine (please excuse my language). If katherine hadn’t come along, then damon wouldve kissed elena, or at least tried to.
OMG!!! Damon and Elena have to be together, I mean after reading shadow souls i feel like they\’re meant to be. All the kisses and the hugs. The chemistry is just so intense with Damon and Elena. When Elena is with Damon she just feels so \”one\” with him and even though she tries so hard not to she ends up either kissin him or showin that she has feelings for him somehow. They just have to end up together.
OMG!!! Damon and Elena have to be together, I mean after reading shadow souls i feel like they\’re meant to be. All the kisses and the hugs. The chemistry is just so intense with Damon and Elena. When Elena is with Damon she just feels so \”one\” with him and even though she tries so hard not to she ends up either kissin him or showin that she has feelings for him somehow. They just have to end up together.
Everytime things happen , Damon is the one who stay beside Elena and help her and Stephan always be the one who need to be rescued. So , Damon and Elena will end up together – that\’s their destiny
WHATS THE SECRET?????
TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME!!!!!!
xD
Please……I NEED to know the secret…..I have the book already ordered however it come only next week! I read the comments and I have to know whats Elenas secret….PLEASE PLEASE PLEAS…..I love you guys
DAMON AND ELENA FOREVER!!!!!!
DELENA <3!!!!!!!!
sasi,the secret is-spoiler ahead————————-> that elena is a virgin!
ruxy: really? OMG…….will elena and damon sleep with one another? OMG OMG OMG—> I can´t wait to read the book!!!
Thank you ruxy
I didn´t read Shadow Souls,but I think ( it hurts me to say/ write) that Stefand and Elena will be together at the End, and Damon will stay the hot, sexy, danger and SINGEL Vampire……..AAAAA…..I LOVE Damon……..DELENA are sooooo cute together…..but I think that Stefan will get the girl ![]()
What do you guys think???
Please tell me if Delena will sleep together???
sasi,i hope they will.and,as someone mentioned before i don`t see the ending without damon and elena together.stefan has been enough with elena and if he`ll end up with her(again) then why make damon loyal,good and gentil..so he can suffer more this time?!
btw,even though damon said that elena is still “unicorn bait” she could have made love with damon.we`ll have to wait for midnight to know.
Yep I’m thinking it’s quite possible they did indeed sleep together. Which I’m down with that. I want my Delena HEA
Yep I\’m thinking it\’s quite possible they did indeed sleep together. Which I\’m down with that. I want my Delena HEA
ruxy: I realy hope that Delena will end up together, but I think that the good boy (Stefan) will get the girl
…..Im so sorry for Damon…..OMG, I LOVE DAMON……Hes the best!!!!!!
What will happen in the scene up there…. I must know it!!!!!
I cant wait to get the book and to read it!!!!!!
Thank you..
sasi,damon is good too.not in the predictable way(if i can say that),but good.if stefan and elena will be end game,i think i`m going to smash the books on my wall.
i suggest you`ll wait for the book to arive,if not,you can download it.
@ Ruxy If Damon and Elena are not end game I will BURN my books
team damon,thanks for the idea.after i`ll smash them maybe i`ll burn them too.but let`s hope they`ll be end game.for the books sake
I’m seriously thinking about waiting a day after the book comes out to see who she ends up with, because if it’s Stefan I don’t even want to read the book. Shallow? Maybe. Truth? Yep.
carol,i was thinking that too.but i`m gonna preorder it and i hope i`ll stay away from spoilers `till the book comes,because i`m from romania and i`ll get the book in like 2 weeks.i`m kidding myself,i`m already serching for teasers…
ruxy, carol: if Delena wont end up together, at first i will smash the books on the wall, eat every page where Stefan and Elena are together and than burn them…hahahah…..nooo im kidding……but, I have such a feeling that Stefan and Elena will end up together………..I am from Austria and I have to wait much loner for the books than you…..aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa….>:(…….I cant wait to get Sahdow Souls……
DELENA FOREVER <3
Did anyone think about the dream that Elena has in shadow souls? The part where she thinks its stefan calling her his angel, but when she looks up she sees Damon’s face
I can’t wait for midnight to come out, and can someone tell me the date of midnight’s release in the UK thanks
sasi,lol.great idea with the eating thing.it really appeals to me.and bite your tongue,they can`t end up together,they just can`t.
helena,yes,i do remember.i was so angry thinking”here`s stefan again” and “what a great scene for stefan” and then it ends up being damon.i was so happy.and i really believe “no dream it`s just a dream” and that means elena it`s more in love with damon than stefan.the way she discribes her feelings and his is so deep.
ps:i haven`t seen a release date yet
ruxy: hahahahahahaha….I like your comments
YEAAAAAAAH…..I ´ve the book…..I got it today……I ´ve just started to read……AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:…………..its fantastic!!!!!
Can anybody tell me at which page this scene over there is???
DELENA!!!!!!!
sasi,thank you!
the scene starts at the middle of page 112.the scene before this one is also very meanigful for delena
sasi,if you mean the dream scene it`s before the motel scene on page 112.
Well, I am very passionate about the books I enjoy the most. And I also have a bad habit (LOL) of getting in my head who I want the ‘person’ to end up with and for me anything other than that just doesn’t work for me. And for me it has to be Elena and Damon. Even though theres nothing wrong with Stefan I just wont be able to see Damon get heart broken when he has come so far. ANd a Bonnie/Damon ending IS NOT going to work for me EVER. Matt or Stefan or even Sage can have her, but Damon belongs with ELena……THE END
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Stefan may not be the same now. He spent alot of time in ‘hell’ being trained to hate Elena (her words) he may not be as goody goody any more which may make Elena move away from him, or at least I hope so. One thing is certain the passion and chemistry between Elena and Damon is off the chain. I haven’t seen that kind of fire between her in Stefan EVER. So I am hoping L.J.Smith is putting all that ‘hotness’ on the page for a reason. Otherwise I’ll be severely disappointed. As I said I’m seriously thinking about waiting to see who she ends up with and deciding from that if I will read the book, Knowing who she chooses won’t be spoiling everything that happens in between, IF she chooses Stefan… I wont read it, If she chooses Damon I’ll buy it and savor all the details. LOL
I have read the book (The Return: Shadow Souls), and in the forthcoming book Elena will end up with Steffen. Elena kissed Damon several times but when she was thinking or talking about love, Steffen was always in her thoughts. If the book comes to Christmas (2010), I think Elena will end up with Steffen and if the last book is overdue until summer 2011 then I believe she will be with Damon. Because then the author has been affected by television version of the TVD and the enormous success it has had made. Most of the viewers of the television version prefers Elena / Damon relationship before Elena / Steffen and thanks to Ian Somerhalder who played the character Damon
dumle,when she was with damon she forgot about stefan.and you don`t have to think about love to have in mind the person you love.
“when she was thinking or talking about love, Steffen was always in her thoughts” you`re right,in her thoughts,not in her heart.
Dear ruxy. If you think a bit longer and read between the lines and you will understand what I mean. Damon is a temptation (beautiful, dangerous, mysterious and exciting) Nina has to go through before she finally goes to Steffen. Nina forgets Steffen when she is with Damon and she forgets Damon when she is with Steffen. Personally I would prefer Damon but many of these books for youth have a way senmoral and this book is not an exception. “It should not be machined by another man’s woman”. Damon was punished because he became man.
i respect your opinion but i`m sticking to mine.i think he was punished because of his curiosity.”don`t stick your nose in someone else`s business”,”curiosity killed the cat”-in this case his imortality had been taken away.and it could be a gift,if he learns to embrace it and he could be end game with elena as a human(i know it isn`t sure-the part with him as a human-because of the possible spoiler).
the part with damon as a temptation for elena it was played in the first 4 books,they already have been intimate(sharing blood).and don`t forget what l.j smith said “(shadow souls) it`s the story of elena falling in love with damon to the same extent she is with stefan”
hey guys……I have not finished the whole book yet….but I am in the middle of the book….and I dont understand…..Did DELENA sleep together or not?!?!?
They never say it…..Im totally freakingn out!!!!!
ruxy: Im totally sticking to your opinion too….they have to be together—-Damon & Elena—–they have to they have to they have to!!!!
Is there going to be a 8. book????
sasi,we don`t know.some of us hope so.as for the eight book the author said this is the last one,but who knows?!there are gonna be 3 more books,but as a prequel and are called “stefan`s diaries” and are tv series based
ruxy: Im really confused…..I hope so much that they did!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA…..Im really freaking out!!!
Is there really going to be an eight book? I thought that MIDNIGHT is the last book?!?!
OMG……..I LOVE THE VAMPIRE DIARIES!!!!!!
ruxy: I totally share your opinion………she DID NOT betrayed Stefan….because everybody knows that she loves DAMON…………I hope that Elena will tell Stefan in MIDNIGHT that she loves Damon and that they had sleep together…….
I really think that Midnight is the last book…..and I hope DELENA will end up together….I really hope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Carol..LOVED this comment from you!
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Stefan may not be the same now. He spent alot of time in ‘hell’ being trained to hate Elena (her words) he may not be as goody goody any more which may make Elena move away from him, or at least I hope so. One thing is certain the passion and chemistry between Elena and Damon is off the chain. I haven’t seen that kind of fire between her in Stefan EVER. So I am hoping L.J.Smith is putting all that ‘hotness’ on the page for a reason. Otherwise I’ll be severely disappointed. As I said I’m seriously thinking about waiting to see who she ends up with and deciding from that if I will read the book, Knowing who she chooses won’t be spoiling everything that happens in between, IF she chooses Stefan… I wont read it, If she chooses Damon I’ll buy it and savor all the details. LOL”
ruxy::I respect your opinion but. Why do you think Elena will choose Damon before Stephen? Think how LJSmith has written his previous books. There, almost always the good-natured (hero) get the girl. Damon will not be lot loose but he will get his girlfriend who she can be. what I think is quite sad but the author is quite predictable in the relationships between her characters in previous books she has written.Now that Damon is not a vampeir his life will be quite interesting. I have my suspicions that the Demon will experience what it is to be a regular guy and get back his humanity.
YOU PEOPLE ROCK!!!
I really hope that it’s Damon and Elena
No offense for stephan haters BUT GOOO DAMON!!!♥
If you put Stephan and Elena then there’s no action but Damon and Elena is HOTTER THAN HELL…YEAH!!!
I meant STEPHANS LOVERS
oops my bad….
you know guys i really think it’s Damon the one Elena will choose. remember the first book: when Bonnie did that ritual to find out who’s gonna be Elena’s husband; well the one who appeared was Damon and NOT Stefan. I think most of us has forgotten about it because at that time we all thought it was Damon the sociopath killer (but it happened to be Kathrine) and we thought Damon was at Bonnie’s house just to kill them (killing her dog) but it wasn’t that, he didn’t kill anybody. So what was he doing there? I think Elena’s future husband is Damon. Bonnie is a true witch we all know that, so we can be sure the ritual worked…what do you think?
dumle,i understand that l.j smith put the “bad” guy from other books,by the end of the series good guy with the heroine.so she can do this in the vampire diaries too.i see a pattern here.damon is good now and human.
from elena`s perspective,i think she`ll choose damon because he has changed so much for her,and she has changed for him.the feelings she has when she`s wih him can`t equal the ones she has with stefan.and if she “loves damon to the same extent as she loves stefan” then why not choose the one who helped her grow as a person?!don`t get my wrong,i like stefan and i was for stefan-elena in the first 2 books and the middle of the third one but i can`t denie what damon awakens in elena.
nastia,i share your opinion but the author forgot about the dumb supper ritual because in the third book elena died and in the fourth one she chose stefan.let`s hope that she is making amends in this last 8 book
You have to remeber in the first book they took the future husband thingy and Damon showed up so I have my fingers crossed for Delena their perfect and in the books when Damon would kiss her there would be a spark!
So hopefully Damon and Elena
I say only one: DELENA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think we all hope that Elena will choose Damon at the End, but you have to think about Stefan…….what is he gona do without Elena?? I don´t realy think that ….AAAAAAAAAAAAA…..I don´t know what to think, it´s so difficult to choose……I would choose DAMON, with no doubt….but, it´s gonna be Stefan at the end….Im sure
What do you guys think???
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@sasi ITA with you! I am TOTALLY hoping for Delena to be HEA endgame. But I am worried it is going to be Stefan, too!!
Oh, on LJs website, she posted “And, I am still hard at work on Midnight, the last of the Vampire Diaries Returns: All about Damon arc.”
/Still/ working? *groans* It’s going to be forever until we know who Elena chooses.
And any ideas what she means by “All about Damon arc”–is she referring to the trilogy or what? I’m confused… .
@Lily I think she just meant the complete name of the second saga, I mean the first one was all about Stefan and Elena (I think it is the first 3 books) and now it’s like a new saga, the second one, and it’s all about Damon & Elena. I’m not sure though so maybe it has some other meaning I don’t know.
But is it that bad if Stefan was the one Elena chooses? I mean, I really want it’s Damon, but why do we always want to bad want to change, to be good again and get the girl? seriously I think they can both be good for Elena, Stefan is cute and kind and perfectly harmless, Damon is kind with Elena but only because he’s in love with her…and he can be so mean.
If Elena chooses Stefan I think I’m going to die I want Delena and I DO NOT WANT A BAMON Bonnie and Damon r not perfect but Bonnie and Stefan or Matt ARE perfect shes to nice I’ll probally burn the saga if Elena chooses Stefan! And not watch the serias on CW well I will but I’m not going to be happy!
I have a few questions about Shadow Souls. I just got done re-reading the book. I want to know who Sage really is. I think he is probably an Old One. Some people have suggested that Damon and Elena may have known each other in the past. If so, does that mean that Elena Gilbert is a reincarnation? I wanted to bring up what Damon said about Sage. He knows who he really is. Apparently whatever Sage has done must be really really bad. Also apparently Damon and Sage used to pull scams together. At the end when Elena looked into the star ball she saw a scene. She saw herself being terrified by two men pretending to be beggars. Was she seeing herself with Damon and Sage? I think it must be because they used to scam people. So was that girl the original Elena? Or was it really her in present day but she doesn’t remember it? Then I also wanted to go back to the part earlier in the book when Elena is dreaming. She hears two people talking about her. Saying something about a second chance. Could that be Damon and Sage speaking about getting Elena to give them a second chance? Maybe this happened to Elena but the information won’t awaken in her until something else happens. Maybe that’s what was meant by saying that it will germinate inside her until the time is right. Something has to happen in order for Elena to remember about long ago. I just hate that it appears as though Damon’s secret is something really bad that was harmful to Elena. That really sucks. I am mad at author if it actually goes in that direaction. Damon has come so far as a person only to be pushed back by some terrible secret. I mean LJ has spent all of this time changing him and building his relationship with Elena. I am going to be extremely angry if he did something horrible to Elena a long time ago that will make her hate him. I love Damon so much. I just hope that he continues to be a good person. I really really want Elena to choose him in the end. It seems like LJ goes out of her way to create these giant stumbling blocks for Damon and Elena. I am still hoping for a Damon and Elena ending. Hope that everything works out well. I just really want Damon to keep being the good guy we have been shown. Well I hope LJ ends it with Damon and Elena being able to get through everything. Can’t wait for Midnight!!!!!
@Damon Forever, I was the one who suggested maybe Damon and Elena shared some sort of past. Most of that was based on some of the dialogue and passages within the book. I’m stumped if it’s that Elena was reincarnated or if it was during her life. That star ball memory you brought up Elena was a child in it if I remember completely. I’ve always wondered about the comment in Nightfall when Elena goes to see Stefan in jail (when she still has the magic key) she’s trying to convince him of it really being her and she says “I once told you I felt like a murderer because I pointed at something out the window right before my parents car crashed” BUT, I couldn’t remember what it was I saw” Could this be a supressed memory? Maybe Shinichi was already in the picture back then?, Maybe she saw Damon back then? I just know that couldn’t just be a ‘throw away line’ had to be a reason to bring it up. Maybe Damon saved Elena from that crash? Who knows?
I really truly don’t think Damon’s secret is going to be anything too horrible. I can’t believe L.J would build him up sooooo much just to tear him down, that would totally piss me off.
And for whoever it was that mentioned L.J’s other books in fact
ark Visions put the heroine with the ‘bad guy’ even after she was with the good guy all along and only shared some brief but hot moments with the bad guy. SO Damon is still in the game in my opinion. Actually, he should be END game. LOL
Sorry meant ‘Dark Visons’ left the D off.
Kayla
I\’m still confused because I thought that in the star ball memory that there were two men pretending to be beggars. What is your opinion on that? I do kind of remember Elena saying all that stuff about her parents though. I just want an answer to what the memory of the beggar men were. I just really hope that whatever Damon\’s secret is that it will not ruin his relationship with Elena. I hope they are together in the end
You guys all know that Stefan and Damon aren’t actually brothers? Well, at least not complete brothers. They might be half-brothers. You know in the very first book, when Stefan is explaining to Elena, he says that Damon always loved HIS mother, instead of OUR mother. And then in Shadow Souls, Elena says something along the lines of this, “You always loved your mother. Or I should say Stefan’s mother. She was the mother you knew.”
And I REALLY wish I knew what excatly it was that everyone but Damon missed in the story about katherine.
@Damon Forever I really don’t think Damon’s secret is going to make Elena so upset that she’s not going to want to have anything to do with him anymore. Come on! This is the girl who believes in Damon even though Stefan’s always “He’s evil. He’s a monster”, blah, blah, blah. She stands up for Damon and has never looked at him with hate in her eyes. She believes in him and she loves him. Now, I honestly have no idea about the star ball scene Elena saw with herself in, I don’t know what to make of it even though I’ve read it, but whatever Damon’s secret is, I think Elena’s feelings toward him are going to stay the same. And who knows? Maybe after learning his secret her feelings will grow even stronger for him because he was honest with her, telling the secret to her, and because of what the secret’s about.
@vampire I can’t help but wonder if either A) The secret is that Damon was never in love with Katherine or B) Damon was already a vampire before he and Stefan killed each other. Then there’s C) That Damon knew Elena back then, during the Italian Renassaince period, and fell in love with her, but then that’s going into the past life/reincarnation theory and I’m still confused as to what I think happened.
Does anyone have any theories as to what’s inside the stone ball Damon keeps things “locked up” in? Does anyone think his love for Elena could be inside or not since he’s shown her by his sacrifices (taking the slashes and pain on himself from her discipline, etc.) that he loves her?
What about when the “young Damon” said to Elena something to the effect of “if you die, I’ll be wrapped up in chains again, like before”? Does anyone think “before” could mean when Elena died as a vampire to protect Stefan and Damon from Katherine? If yes, then Damon obviously loved Elena even back then.
moi je pense qu’elle finira avk Damon parce ke avk l’aide de bonnie elle ont décider ki serait leur maris plus tard et c Damon ki est apparu et bonnie a vu son avenir elle mourra jeune et vous pouvez m’expliquer si Damon devient humain et le nom du site ou on peut télégarger le tome
OMG……..I read all te comments….and I have to say that you make me think……but what makes me furious is that Damon is a HUMAN? WHAT THE HELL…….sorry but I cant inroduce myself that Damon is a human, he only can be the hot, dangerous an gorgeous VAMPIRE!!!!!! I really hope that he will turn into a Vampire again and that he will end up with ELENA…………
whitney: I totally share your opinion…..Bonnie and Damon CAN NOT be togerther.,…..sorry to all Bonnie Fans but….I HATE HER!!!!!!!!….she can NOT be with DAMON…..sorry but she should go to hell and forget the kisses with Damon….he will never love her like Elena!!!!!!!!!
DELENA FOREVER<3
@ Lily an “arc” means a continuation of a story. So the Damon arc is the continuation of the frist 4 books
Damon and Elena FTW
@vampirefandedamon,i don`t think damon will want to marry bonnie.and yes,he`s a human again.
@team damon thanks for explaining the “arc” thing
CrimsonInk
I really hope that Elena will continue to love Damon and believe in him. I do not want LJ to try and mess up the relationship that Damon and Elena have. I hope that Damon and Elena will end up together in the end. I do not think that Damon was a vampire before he met Katherine. Damon and Stefan both died in the fight that they had. Damon would not have by being stabbed by Stefan unless it was a wooden sword lol. As far as the reincarnation thing, well let’s hope not. However considering how far LJ has stretched things in the last few books it would not be surprising. I don’t know if Damon was never really in love with Katherine. It would not make sense if he was not. Why would two brothers kill each other if they were not BOTH in love with Katherine. I’m really not sure what it is that everyone missed. I would really like to know. Maybe he is going to say something like that he was the one to steal Katherine away from Stefan. In the book he had just been talking about how bad he felt that Stefan was in prison. Damon kept going on about how everything was his fault. Maybe he was saying that everything that happened is his fault because he killed Stefan first. I don’t know. Hopefully we will find out. Cross ur fingers!!! Damon and Elena Forever!!!!!!!!
Bonnie is to nice and so is Stefan there perfect and Elena Damon have there momets together and being nice and bad Stefan and Elena shouldn’t be together But in the first book they took the future husband thingy and Damon showed up not Stefan and theres a spark Elena discribs in the books when elena and damon kiss or touch but she’ll probally choose stefan
@Damon Forever Like I said before, whatever Damon’s “secret” is, I’m almost 100% certain that it won’t affect the way Elena feels about Damon. If she’s going to completely change her mind, then there wouldn’t be a choice for her to make in the next book between both the boys, now would there? Don’t lose faith in Damon and Elena! No, I don’t think they used wooden swords, either. lol Maybe the secret is something simple, like you suggested. We do know that Damon felt guilty about Stefan being in jail and that he admits that it was his fault that Stefan’s there. Maybe the secret is something along those lines. I just hope all of our questions, like what happened between Damon and Elena in the hotel, what Damon’s secret is, who the murderer is, who Sage is, etc., will all be answered in “Midnight”. I’m also hoping that L. J. Smith will give us a little spoiler like she did for “Shadow Souls” in advance. Keeping my fingers crossed for a Damon and Elena ending!!!
@Whitney According to L. J. Smith, Elena loves Damon to the same extent that she loves Stefan, so don’t count on her choosing Stefan just yet. I’d say Damon has a pretty good fighting chance. Besides, L. J. Smith said the ending would “shock” everyone and to me, Elena choosing Stefan wouldn’t be shocking at all since she’s done it in the past.
by the way to who follows the Tv-Show, I got spoilers for season 2 in my blog http://www.moonlight-mind.blogspot.com (there’s a really shocking one!)
@Nastia…thanx.wow,can’t wait!!!great.
@Nastia Spoilers…WOW!!! YES!! But, unfortunately, I knew or guessed most of the spoilers already…thanks though!!
@Nastia the spoilers r awesome!!!! Can’t wait till Season 2!
@whitney
@Lily
@taznim
glad to help, I’ll try to get more if I can, and I’ll tell you
about the reincarnation thing, I thought about something but it sounds kinda irreal cause Damon was for sure human before meeting Kathrine so…but let’s give it a shout right?
So, I thought that maybe Damon met Elena when he was 17 (which means back in the 1500s) and maybe she left him or she died. Then few years later, when Damon’s little brother Stefan was 17, he met Kathrine and saw how much she looks like Elena, and fell in love with her.
I really think that Damon met Elena in the past cause; you know remember in the first book, when he told Stefan that Elena was so not Kathrine, I mean he was so convinced and so sure, that it can’t be just a coincidence, Damon knew what kinda girl Elena was, and the fact that he came to fell’s Church just to make her his princesse of darkness, means he was deeply involved in something strong with her even if she might not know it yet.
I truly think that Damon would never do anything to hurt his little brother, I mean he loved Stefan and I can’t imagine he would steal Kathrine from him just because he liked her physically. but if she was looking exactly like the love of his life (who was Elena) then everything is explaned.
what do you guys think about it? isn’t it completely twisted?
nastia,damon and stefan came to fell`s church because khaterine influenced them both,she wanted them to see elena and feel guilty about her suicide.(this is in book 3)
damon said elena wasn`t like khaterine because he was watching her way before stefan came in town.in shadow souls she tells elena he thought she wasn`t a virgin because he heard what she was talking with the other girls-they had(except bonnie) a bad reputation.
i don`t know how the reincarnation thing will be possible,but the author has a great imagination,so it could be.but my opinion is that she thinks she knows damon because they are” twin flames” and “eternal soul mates”
@ruxy
I don’t know, it’s just so confusing. honestly I haven’t read “shadow souls” yet, so maybe after reading it I’ll have an other opinion on the situation but, I truly hope Elena ends up with Damon. even though I don’t consider this a “shocking” end as L.J.Smith said it is going to be one.
and what about Stefan? he’s the nice guy in the story so what about him? I don’t want him to die or something, he’s just too kind. Maybe he’ll finally enjoy his vampire life and will stop torturing himself for been a monster. I anyway hope it and maybe there’s gonna be the right soul mate for him, who knows?
But back to Elena and the whole reincarnation thing; I really think there’s something going on this way, it can’t be nothing all that dream thing that everybody’s telling about. Maybe it is what you said, Elena knows Damon because they’re “twin flames”… it’s so confusing and frustrating and I long to read it (unfortunately, I gotta wait till September to get it, and there’s no English version out here).
and I’m so worried about Elena’s choice, I’m afraid it won’t be Damon… and what if she can’t choose? I mean, what if she does like Kathrine, choosing’em both? is it that bad?
seriously guys, if she can’t choose, then she takes both, not a big deal you know, that way everybody would get what he wants and no one would suffer and the brothers would learn to respect the choice, thing that they didn’t when it was Kathrine’s choice. That might be the shocking end!
what do you think?
nastia,you can find the pdf version on the internet.you gotta read it,there are so many damon/elena moments.
if elena will keep both boys,even though i like her and i have deffended her,i will consider her a sl*t.i understand it`s hard to to make a choice,but she has to make it.i hope for damon and elena.stefan needs to grow as a person and move on.he can`t resume his after-life to elena.i think it will be good for him to not get the girl.he`s so dependable,i just wish he will make a life of his own and think about his needs and dreams-put hymself first this time
ive read all the books except 4 Midnight, which hasnt came out yet. damon becomes a mortal in the last book b4 Midnight. I dont remember reading about Damon and Elena having to strip tho. Maybe L.J. Smith took it out.
@Nastia- this isnt the ending of the book. this is more towards the beginning or middle. trust me, the ending sure surprised me, left me speechless, and makes me even more anxious for Midnight(the next book) to come out!
It’s anybody’s guess as to what we ‘missed’ in the Damon/Katherine/Stefan story. For me I’m leaning toward it being Damon wasn’t in love with Katherine but rather just trying to get her to spite Stefan. That would be a twist and it would explain why Damon feels guilty about all things ‘Stefan’. And it wouldn’t make me dislike Damon at all, they were human then and they pretty much hated each other so it wouldn’t be too far fetched that Damon would do such a thing.
It would also explain why Damon was willing to step aside at the end of Shadow Souls. But, I do believe whole heartedly that he is in love with Elena and I believe she loves him too though neither of them are willing to admit it, For Damon I think it’s because he doesn’t feel that the feeling are reciprocated and for Elena I think it’s because she does still love Stefan.
For me anything beyond a Damon/Elena ending will just plain old suck ass. Damon/Elena are the reason I read the books and the reason I enjoy the show so much. Not to mention I think Damon deserves to be happy, he’s had a crappy life, apparently for what ever reason he lost his real mother, then he lost Stefans mother, his father was mean and abusive to him, he and stefan didn’t get along. I want him to have something ‘good’ for himself. And Bonnie ‘aint’ it at least not in my opinion. I can’t stand the idea of those two together. I’d rather see Damon walk away all alone flipping Elena, Stefan and the whole damn town off , than to see him end up with Bonnie. Let Matt have Bonnie or for that matter Stefan can have her.
I also do think that Damon wasn’t in love with Kathrine, you know why? because when she got them in the tomb and was going to kill Stefan and Elena, she proposed Damon to join her side…but he just told her to go to hell. If he was really in love with her, he would have accepted.
I think back in the 1500s, the reason why Damon wanted Kathrine is that he wanted to get even from Stefan, cause so far; Stefan was the golden boy, the good son, the perfect guy…and Damon, well he lost his mother, then Stefan’s mother, then his father was always preferring Stefan to him… I mean, stilling Stefan’s gorgeous girlfriend is quiet a good revenge. So I don’t blame Damon for all what happened, and I truly understand the fact that he wanted Kathrine just to get even from his brother whose life was so easy and generous so far.
@ruxy
I really wanna read the book, but i just can’t find it on the net, so if just could give me the link, it’d be awesome
thanx in advance
@Nastia if you are already a Damon/Elean fan without reading Shadow Souls then you will be even more of a Damon/Elena fan this book showed a tremendous amount of chemistry between them and for once your seeing Elena be drawn to him just as much as he is drawn to her. And he also saves her and Bonnie and Meredith quite abit in this book. Though some parts of the book were a bit over written with things I could care less about the Damon/Elena moments made it worth it for me.
@Damon Forever, I’m going to re read the part about the star ball and get back to you with an opinion. I don’t remember everything about it at the moment just that Elena was a child in it.
@Michelle
I’m a Damon/Elena fan since the first book, since the gym scene when Elena describes his huge wide black eyes…I knew since that moment that Damon & Elena are meant to be together.
And to be honest, I’m definitely not the kind of person who likes those kinda ends when the girl ends up with the nice guy and the bad guy is killed or whatever, I like when it turns out that the bad one is deeply tortured or hurt or something and the girl would be his little heaven on earth if you know what I mean. And my crush on DALENA got even bigger when I read the part where Elena came back to life as a vampire and is in love with Damon…gosh it was my favorite part ever!
You know before I hear about all that, a friend of mine was telling me about the Tv-Show, but I didn’t want to watch it cause I thought it was just some Twilight trick. But I accepted to read the first book cause I love reading, and it was a very quick reading and I loved the story, I fell in love with that whole story of first love back in the 1500s, fell in love with Elena’s way of being, fell in love with Damon! so I got the episodes and started watchin’em one after the other and seriously? the show is freaking awesome, Damon & Elena got so much chemistry, Damon is badass and totally rocks, Stefan is good too but common! Damon is smoking hot and freaking funny.
Then, you realize that behind that evil and glib behavior, there’s a man who’s deeply in love with a girl, and he has been seeking her for more than a century and a half without stop loving her all along the way. but when he finally reach her, it turns out that she doesn’t care about him at all! and that is so sad and hurtful that I think Damon deserves to find happiness and to have something good in his life, so Damon getting Elena is what the whole story is about on my opinion, cause I think Stefan has no right to continue having a generous life, now it’s time for Damon to be blessed I think, because Damon needs Elena way more than Stefan does.
agree?
@Michelle on June 11th AMEN!! Last paragraph was beautifully said!!
@Nastia Agreed (and by agreed I mean ITA!!!!) Elena is such a blessing to Damon. He deserves a happy ending for once in his, er, (un)life.
Just read some horrible news. I went to Amazon.com and searched Vampire Diaries Midnight. The results page came up and it said March 3, 2011!!!!!!
I am so sad!!! I really hope that the release date gets moved up. The British version is the one that always appears when I type the name of the book into Amazon. I don’t know what I am gonna do if I have to wait almost another full year.
Kayla,
I just re-read the part about the star ball memory again. It descirbes Elena as a girl. I assume that she is a little girl because of the way that she is talking. All of her words are running together. She is very afraid. She is saying please don’t let it get me. It must be referring to a vampire or something similar. The girl is dressed in poor people’s clothing. As far as we know Elena has never been poor. So there are two options. Either this Elena is Elena from a previous life before being reincarnated. Or this little girl is not Elena but in fact Katherine as a child. The two men were described as being broad and muscular. I believe that Damon has never been described as being “broad”. If I remember correctly, Damon has always been described as being lean and muscular. Maybe even a bit lanky. It has also been made clear that he is shorter than Stefan. For these reason I do not believe that Damon is either of the two men. Sage may have been one of the two men. The two men were described as being naked except for beggars clothing. I thinkt that Elena would have recognized Damon right away even with beggars clothing on. However, Elena has not known Sage very long. She may not have recognized him. I was also under the impression that Sage has changed his physical appearance as well as his name for centuries. I still believe that Sage is probably an old one. Maybe he worked with or know Klaus. Maybe he was partially responsible for turning Katherine. I believe that Damon is aware of all of this information. Maybe that is one of Damon’s many secrets. What does everyone else think?
this looks alot like dark visons:in that book the good guy was rod katlin was in love whit him becaues he was prefect and that he repest light and all BORING and then there was a bad boy gabriel that owes dress in all black DOES THAT SOND FAMLIER GUYS? katilin was in in love whit him to AND AT THE END GUSSE WHO SHE PICKES GABRIEL.becaues rob saw how katilin looked at gabriel and how gabril looked at katlin and told her that she should be with him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DONT ABOUT U GUYS BUT I THINK THIS SOND MUCH LIKE VAMPIRE DAIRES DOUT YOU THINK AND GUSSE WHAT IT THE SAME AUTHOUR (L.J SIMT ) TELL ME WHAT U THINK GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TEAM DAMON 4 EVE
nastia,i don`t think i can put the link on this site because the link it`s from an illegal site.but if you want,you can give me your e-mail and i`ll send you the book.
@ruxy
here’s my e-mail: girlfromrussia@hotmail.fr
and thank you so much!
@nastia:
I totally agree with you….and your comments are awesome xD………..I am exactly the same as you, I have to wait until september to read SHADOW SOULS in my language, I´ve read it in english but I have to read it in German to understand some things I didnt understand…..
The Tv-Show is awesome….its like…WOW……The feelings between Damon and Elena are so cute and when I read your spoiler I was just freaking out………..WOW……:D
But you will see…..Shadow Souls is great….and I think the whole Book is about DAMON AND ELENA….and for me the most shocking moment was when (I hope they did) they slep together……they didnt explain if they did or not…I was just like: WHAT THE HELL….YES OR NO????hahahaha….but I hope in MIDNIGHT Elena is gong to tell Stefan the truth….
And the other shocking moment is: DAMON TURNS INTO A HUMAN AGAIN………WTH??????…….I cant believe…..
I hope you will read the book as fast as you can…its fantastic
(sry for the grumble)
@Damon Forever Well, it is hard to wrap my mind around that star ball incident. I remember when I first read it I was confused as to whether or not it ‘really’ was Elena or if she was just referring to it that way because she put herself in the little girls perspective. I guess I was confused because she didn’t want to see the rest of what happened and I thought if it really was her she would want to see the whole thing. SO, if we go on the assumption it ‘really is’ Elena as a child……..Maybe……. Way back then Shinichi or some other supernatural thing, got ahold of Elena and Damon stepped in and saved her some how???? I’ve always wondered about that part of Elena’s dream (when shes in the tub) where Damon says ‘He would do anything, even give his life so she could be ’safe and free’. The ‘free’ part always stuck out to me I thought it was an odd thing to say. So I mean I’m only guessing and speculating here but perhaps Damon bargained with someone for Elena’s freedom and safety and that is how they know each other??
How can this be. Someone has taken the same login name as me ….. delena…. which I spell in all lower case letters and is commenting as DELENA …all upper case letters. That is not me. Somehow I will have to change log in names I don’t understand how the system allowed this.
@delena with the big” f** u all”, we respond to one comment or another if we have something to add to it.
@ the first/real delena,the second delena isn`t a member,so she doesn`t have a log in name.it`s just a guest and the name appears with black,not blue
@sasi
Thanks! good to have some people like you here! and too bad to have some others like the false delena who’s insulting everybody
anyway, spoilers for season 2? interesting!! I’m just so curious about the fact that Kathrine had a journal someday, it could be nice to read a true “vampire diary”, cause by now, Elena is the only one that read us her journal, and guess what? she’s not a vampire! not yet at least. Even though Stefan’s got one, he never mentioned it any further than the first 2 episodes so…
and Stefan will fall back in love with Kathrine!!!!! seriously it was a big shock! but then I thought: that would push Elena toward Damon!!
I’m just worried about Tyler, in the books, he’s definitely evil and deserves to die but in the show, he’s …. okay he’s a jerk too but he’s kinda hurt and put constantly under pressure by his father who thank god is dead now!
and Jeremy!? seriously they should have kept the Margaret sister cause Jeremy is too much drama, I mean: he’s sleeping with Vickie, he does grugs, then he got better when Damon erase his memory but then meets Anna and got back to troubles, then he wants to become a vampire, he hates Elena but frankly he’s acting like a jerk cause what she did was obviously for the best, then he refuses to turn onto vampire when he’s got the shot to, and then he finally decides to turn because human life sucks and is just too hard for him! what a teen!!
haha I love when Damon says: Life sucks either way Jeremy, but when you’re a vampire you don’t have to feel bad about it!
I’d love to be a vampire!!
i know the secret because ive read it
shes a virgin
this is why people dont leav a coment and ruxy ur stuk up bitich nd all i siad was that u guy did not made me feel welcome and nastie just sut ur mount were not in russia how can it be insulting if u say u guys did not make me feel welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! comen seans duh whatever all ur coment are broring>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well bye 4 now xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxox delena
this is why people dont leav a coment and ruxy ur stuk up bitich nd all i siad was that u guy did not made me feel welcome and nastie just sut ur mount were not in russia how can it be insulting if u say u guys did not make me feel welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! comen seans duh whatever all ur coment are broring>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well bye 4 now xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxox delena
delena, if you think its so boring, why are you even hear? why don’t you go learn some proper english so we can actually understand your little baby swear words?
delena, if you think its so boring, why are you even here? why don’t you go learn some proper english so we can actually understand your little baby swear words?
@vampire,i guess now she`s feeling welcome,because we are responding to her
i don`t want to be mean,but delena,if all you can do is say nasty things,then no wonder nobody responded to your comment.
@delena
first of all, don’t you dare tell me to shut up ever again,
then, yeah we’re not in Russia, I’m not even there too, and I don’t know why you talk about Russia cause it got nothing to do with that at all, so keep talking if you want but just try to say something meaningful, cause right now you’re just talking but it makes no sense. So next time you have something to say or to comment, do it normally and not with words like: bitch or whatever, or telling me to shut up. And I said nothing but the truth when I said: “you’re insulting everybody” cause you actually are. and I think everyone is agreed with me on this point.
And if you felt not welcome, then try to be kinder, I am here since a little month and I already feel a part of it, People are all okay with each others, and so am I. but when I first got here, no one sent me flowers, no one worried who was I, or what’s up about me, I just do it all by myself, that’s the way it is and that’s it. and as ruxy said, no wonder if nobody responses to your comments if you keep talking the way you do.
so don’t expect us to act differently with you, and insulting us or using rude English won’t help it, so suck it up all right.
there was just a misunderstanding at the beginning because you got the same username as one of us but now it’s okay…
Nastia (not “nastie”, try to remember it)
Hey guys, I don´t think that this is the right place to quarrel…..so please, who want to fight and to insult somebody he/she should go to another Internet Side…so sorry, I don´t want to blame someone but please don´t quarrel here…….
@nastia
Yes I totally agree with you, AGAIN…haha…..In the books I HATE Bonnie ( because she kissed Damon and she thinks he loves her…AAAAA:….>:(….) but in the series I like her, shes very pretty!! At the first episodes of TVD I hate Jeremy too because he caused only problems ( with Vicky, the drugs,…) but at the last episodes I started to like him because he and Anna were a good couple…. I really hope Anna will come back but I doubt……
I really hope Stefan is going to fell in love with Katherin….than Elena will see that DAMON IS THE BEST for her !!!
DELENA FOREVER!!!!!!
the secret is that elena is a virgin
@sasi
well I still don’t like Jeremy even after the season finale cause: remember when he heard about Vickie’s death, he was like so freaked out, and so sad… but you saw how he was when Damon told him Anna was dead? he was like, don’t caring at all he was just focusing on his own issues, Anna’s death was like the last of his concernes yet she was really caring him, and she even proposed him eternity by turning him so he can feel good again (cause vampires don’t have to feel any pain) and so as he can be with her forever. I trully hate this behavior, and I really think he’s selfish as hell.
I pretty like Bonnie; she’s a good friend, the kind you can count on and be sure she’d always act for the best, I also like the fact that she’s a witch, I especially liked her when she said to Stefan: “We both wanna protect the people we care about, but the difference for you is that Damon is one of them” and when she added : “I know who I am now”
gosh! she’s the strong lady role model!!!!
@jess
yep Elena is a virgin! it’s clearly mentioned in Shadow Souls, Damon said it. But I’m not sure she is anymore, after the motel night, even though we’re sure of nothing. The weirdest thing about it is that everybody was taking it for so a big deal, I mean it’s pretty obvious what a girl and guy would have done when they spent a night together at a model room. But the fact that Meredith asked it like she totally don’t know what it was, made me doubt a little bit. I mean if it really was that they slept together; then it wouldn’t be so much tricky behavior, weather it was meredith’s, Bonnie’s or even Elena’s. I’m pretty sure that it happened something else than that that night, or something more than that. But it’s a vampire story, a whole crazy world so maybe it is what we all thought: Damon & elena slept together.
Gosh i just can’t stop feeling sorry for Stefan, I mean he’s in jail somewhere in the Dark dimension while his girlfriend is having an affair with his brother! that may sound a little bit weird said that way, but it’s sadly true!!! But you all guys don’t care, yes? as it’s Damon & Elena we’re talking about here!
you know what? I don’t care neither!!! I’m just Go Damon! you’ll get the girl by the end!
nastia,it`s funny that i hate bonnie from the show,especially after that line that you mentioned;i like bonnie from the books,she is like a child,but hey,she never abandoned her friends and she faced her fears.
if elena slept with damon,it`s so ok with me.she couldn`t have said to stefan then it`s over,he was in a jail.this may be cruel but if she loves them both(and she does) she just can`t think about both of them all the time.so i guess it was damon`s turn then
and maybe if she made love with damon,she will be with him.remember what l.j.smith said in an interview-elena already knows who she wants and who she doesn`t want.
I’m cool with all the characters on the show except Caroline is a bit annoying, just like the books LOL. But, in the books I don’t necessarily ‘hate’ Bonnie I just don’t like her being paired with Damon. I think she and Matt make more sense. Maybe I just already have it in my head that I can’t be happy with it being anyone but Damon/Elena.
To the other ‘delena’, not our regular Delena I’ve been coming on here for quite sometime, long before the book SS even came out ppl don’t always remark about something you say they don’t always welcome you, you just come on here and give your opinions and or comments and if someone wants to they will respond or they wont. It’s simple as that. Maybe you should change your ‘name’ and come back on here with a better attitude and a clean start.
Has anyone heard for sure when Midnight will release? I had thought it was Dec. but now I’m hearing March 2011! That sucks.
Oh I should have said I wasn\’t too surprised with the spoiler that Stefan would be the one to still have feelings for Katherine. I knew something would have to happen for Elena to move away from Stefan and toward Damon and it made sense and alittle twist too that Damon who has been obsessed with finding Katherine would be the one who didn\’t fall under her spell. I can\’t wait for season 2 to see things develop between Damon and Elena.
@nastia:
Yes I know the story about Jeremy and his problems, and he sucks…..but I actually think that I have started to like him when he and Anna became a couple..but yes his behaviors really sucks…..but I loved it when Damon annoys Jeremy at the last episode :” I have so many emotions, but I have no way to express them….beeing a teenager is so hard…” .,.hahahahahahaha…. I LOVE THAT….:D
@ruxy:
With me it was different,because I like Bonnie in the series and I hate her in the Books….I dont know but in the books she is so boring and (sry for all BONNIE-FANS) she thinks the whole world turns around her…..and when she thought that Damon loves her….I was so angry…and you can say…I was jealous..hahahaha…but no, there is no way for Damon and Bonnie…NOOOO WAY….NOT in the BOOKS and NOT in the TV SHOW…NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…..
I really hope DAMON AND ELENA slept together ….and I hope Elena will tell Stefan that they did….I REALLY HOPE
Hey guys…..I have pictures, a diary- entry from DAMON I would love to show you…..can anybody tell me how I can put pictures in my comments?!?
THANKS
@sasi
well I’m not sure you can put pics with your comments, but if you want I can put them on my blog, just send them to me to girlfromrussia@hotmail.fr
Of course if anybody knows how to put pics with comments, that would be better
hey guys, i found some spoilers for season 2! here’s the link: http://hollywoodcrush.mtv.com/2010/05/28/vampire-diaries-season-2-scoops-spoilers-katherine/
@nastia:
I would love to send you the pics (diary entries from Damon)!!!! I hope you can read it!!!!!!!!
Thank you!!!
@nastia:
I have already sent the pics to you…….please put them onto your blog as fast as you can!!!
Thanks
i dont now y u guys r beind rude to some people and i now delena and u guys hurt her feeling i tellin all my friend not to leav a comment here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ps i dont now what world u guys leav in but people type in sort forms and delena is right dark vison and vampire daiares r the same i read both of them and she has a poit the girl does end up with a bad the boy)
alex,if people don`t respond to all comments it doesn`t mean they are rude.if that bothered delena,she has to grow up and if she insults us she won`t get any response to her comments.
vampire,thnx for the spoilers.can`t wait till season 2!
@nastia:
Hey nastia…..YOU ARE GREAT!!!!
Thank you so much that you put the Diary entries into your page…..and thank you for mention me…hahha….THANK YOU…..YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!!
nastia,tnx for posting and sasi,tnx for sharing.btw,they are fan-made?
@sasi
you’re wlecome! I’m always happy to help in any kind of ways as long as I can.
but thanks to YOU for sharing those Diary Entries, it’s just amazing, and so selfless from you (does the word “selfless” exist in English? cause I’ve never used it or heard it be used before).
Some time ago I wrote that Elena will choose Damon before Stefan if the last book of The Vampire Diaries: The Return trilogy will be delayed until spring / summer 2011,I wrote that author LJ Smith probably been influenced by Damon’s popularity in the TV seriesis in my opinion. Now is the last book delayed to March 2011, What do you think about the people? (http://www.vampire-diaries.net/books/new-release-dates-for-the-return-midnight-stefans-diaries-2-3)
dumle,i remember and i can`t say anything except for:i wish you`re right! if that means damon will end up with elena
guys, I’ve been thinking again about the motel night, and now that I remembered what Damon said the morning after, it can’t be that they slept together. Elena was crying and Damon tasted a tear and said: still unicorn beast or something, which means virgin. So I think they didn’t sleep together, maybe it was something else, not just sharing blood because they used to do it before and it’s definitely not something to be ashamed of, plus it must be something important cause Shinishi took it from Damon.
Now I’m trying to figure out all what Damon might wanna do with Elena as he said when he kissed her in the motel: “you think that’s all what I wanted?”
So basically this night he had what he wanted, and I’m trying to imagine what it could be. and let me guys tell you that it’s not an easy task cause I totally don’t know what a vampire would want from a gorgeous girl except kisses, blood and sex.
Help me out guys, what the hell they did that night?
`@ruxy:
I really hope that the Entries are NOT fanmade…….I don´t know….I got it from my friend who found it in the Web…so I really don´t know……I wrote it before but I will write it again: The VD directors wrote that someone else is going to have a journal/ diary in the 2nd season……so maybe it is DAMON
`@nastia:
I´ve been also thinking about the night in the motel, I even dreamed about it…hahahaha….but I really have no idea….I don´t know what they have could done together….I only see one possibility…they did sleep togther and maybe they have exchanged blood……but we will never know if they really did…we have to wait until December or March when Midnight will release…..now we can only pray and press our thumbs
sasi,i thought the diary entry was related to the books,but you`re right,it could be from tv damon`s diary.it didn`t make sense if the pages were from the books because damon describes katherine as sweet and innocent in them
@sasi
well, I knew that in season 2 there’ll be somebody else who’s got a journal, but Julie Plec helped us a bit by saying: maybe we’ll finally know more about Kathrine.
So I really think it’s Kathrine who’s got a journal, but it’s all good if it is Damon!
About the night in the motel, I’m really confused cause:
1- everything make us think they slept together, there’s too much indications
2-Damon after loosing his memories of that night tasted again Elena’s tears and clearly said she was still a virgin, which means in other words: there’s nothing sexual happened between them that night.
3-What could it be either? sharing blood isn’t bold enough, and if was just that, Elena wouldn’t be so enigmatic and would definitely tell Meredith about it when she asked.
4-Maybe they did have sex but Elena might have some magical power that can keep her virgin even after having sex!!!! this is hy Damon wouldn’t know! I’m sorry it’s completely twisted but it’s a possibility; hey Elena’s got wings!! so everything is possible, maybe the fact that she’s back from heaven as an Angel keeps her pure forever, who knows!
and I’m asking a question to everyone here: who’s Sage? I mean he suddently appeared and he’s now a “member of the group”, I haven’t finished the book yet but I got that bad feeling about him.
Oh and just a little comment about all that french sentences in the book: L.J.Smith should really ask a native speaker to help her cause there were some mistakes, well not really mistakes it’s just that she translated directly from English to french, so there’s some things that shouldn’t be said that way, I’ll give you an example:
Sage said when he came to rescue Damon: “Laissez-le seul” which means: “leave him alone”, but in french, when we wanna say it we say: “Laissez-le tranquille” ==> “leave him calm”.
there’s also: “laissez-le dans la paix” and that is completely false, in French we say: “Laissez-le en paix” ==> “leave him in peace” it’s pretty the same meaning as “leave him alone”.
hope you liked my little french course!
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@nastia:
I would love to answer your questions, but I really don´t know…….I´ m living in Germany and I have to wait until September to read the book in German because I didn´t understand everything……and because of Sage: I hope you will not laugh but I´m really afraid of him….I don´t know but I have a felling that he is very bad……I hope he is not so bad as I am thinking…….hahahaha….because of the motel-night :I told you, I have thought about it so much that I have even dreamed about it…..lol…….I have no idea if they did or not…..I am really FREAKING OUT!!!!
nastia,somebody asked something in french,i answered but in english(i`m not not good at making sentences in french).maybe you could help her out.
sasi,i like sage and i`m attracted to him(if you can say that).i think he was bad,but now he isn`t anymore.and for sure damon corrupted him at first because damon invited him to have a drink as friends and sage sais something like “we were never friends”
nastia,sorry but i can`t help myself.sage-gay,it`s funny,but i understand where you`re coming from(the way l.j.smith describes him,with that long blond or gold hair)
as for elena,i understand her.she keep denying her feeling for damon,because she fell in love first with stefan.i know she`s cheating and i disagree with her behavior but(sorry for getting personal)i know how it feels to love two guys,so don`t throw rocks at her if you haven`t experienced it.as you said,she has to make a choice.i will go for damon,i think she isn`t physically attracted to stefan and a romantic relationship can`t be complete without this factor.
@ruxy
this situation is a lot more complicated than our usual love troubles, Stefan & Damon aren’t just two guys, they’re first of all brothers, then vampires, AND it did happened in the past that they loved the same woman who physically looks totally like Elena, and they fought because of her and killed each other!
So Elena has to be very careful, like I said before I’m not done with reading the book yet, but I’m getting closer to the end and all I can say is that Damon’s completely in love with Elena, so I don’t know how he’ll react at the end, when Elena gets Stefan back we all know that she’s still so over him, so what is Damon’s reaction gonna be? there’s obviously a situation where both Stefan & Damon feel like Elena is their own property (some kind of! not like slave) so each one of’em will defend it’s property and there’ll be a fight again, and it’s gonna be all because of Elena.
I’m not saying she shouldn’t have feelings for both, I know she can’t help it, I just say that she should make a choice before, like if she’s certain of her feelings for Damon, then wait until Stefan’s out of jail, healthy, and got all his mind, and she tells him it’s over, and only then she can kiss Damon, sleep with him or whatever. But now all what she’s doing is carrying with both of’em, and the thing is it’s gonna fire it up all over again between them.
About the physical attraction, I’m not sure, well she’s definitely very attracted to Damon, but so is she to Stefan, remember when she describes his green eyes, his hair, his cheekbones…but it’s obvious that she’s more attracted to Damon, especially when she compares him to a black panther.
Hey i’m new here. I agree with nastia, that she is attracted to both and i didn’t make my own decision yet, who i’d choose. About sage i don’t think he’s that bad. more like the way damon is bad.
Does anyone of you understand what is written on page 358?
“I’m frightened,” she heard, and a minute too late, recognized her own voice.
“Well don’t think about it,” Damon said. “It’ll only make things worse.”
But I’ve lied, Elena thought. You don’t even remember it, or you’d be lying, too.
“Whatever happened, I promise I’ll still be around for you,” Damon said softly. “You’ve got my word on THAT, anyway.”
Does anyone of you understand what is written on page 358?
\”I\’m frightened,\” she heard, and a minute too late, recognized her own voice.
\”Well don\’t think about it,\” Damon said. \”It\’ll only make things worse.\”
But I\’ve lied, Elena thought. You don\’t even remember it, or you\’d be lying, too.
\”Whatever happened, I promise I\’ll still be around for you,\” Damon said softly. \”You\’ve got my word on THAT, anyway.\”
hi marly! on page 358 is about elena,who has to face a punishment,because she`s a rebelious slave.continue reading and you`ll understand better.
nastia,elena couldn`t help herself around damon now that she loves him,in the gim,when they met,you see that in the last second she rejected his kiss,but now,she couldn`t deny what damon makes her feel and she responded to his kisses.i know the right thing to do was to wait until she found stefan but she couldn`t,she loves damon too.sorry but i just can`t blame her for acting the way she feels.if she rejected damon she`d have suffered and damon too.
sasi,as i said before,i totally agree with you.but i don`t know about stefan,hopefuly he`ll understand and get a life of his own.or maybe l.j smith will kill him(i don`t want this version,but it`s up tot he author to decide what she`ll do with this love triangle)
Ugh! I don’t think I can wait seven months until Midnight comes out–presuming Amazon is correct in its release date.
@ruxy
I just don’t know what to think about it, technically; Elena never said that she’s “in love” with Damon, she just says that he’s gorgeous, that she feels something when they kiss and when their hands touch, but she never said those 3 words: I love Damon.
but meanwhile, she’s always reminding herself that she loves Stefan, that his the one, maybe this is just a way to hide or to reject her feelings for Damon, or maybe she just DOESN’T have feelings for him at all and is just acting like this around him cause she’s physically attracted to him.
I don’t know how any of this is going to end, but for sure I wanna Damon & Elena.
In Twilight, There were some kind of same situation, where Bella has feelings for both Edward & Jacob, but she never thought of Jacob a possible mate, never she thought of that possibility, it was Edward from the begining, and it was still Edward till the end. So of course, I want things to be different in Vampire Diaries (yet it is very different from Twilight, I can even say: it is BIGGER, BETTER and BOLDER than Twilight). So I want the outsider to get the girl.
On p. 358 she is referring to the night in the hotel with Damon. The conversation starts out about staying focused on the business at hand – finding the half of the key. Elena is having a hard time staying focused because her mind is wandering. Damon’s mind is wandering slightly too. She is afraid of what Stefan will think when he finds out about what happened between Damon and Elena in the motel room. She knows Stefan will read her mind and she can’t lie to him. She knows that right now Damon can’t lie about what happened because his memories of the night were stolen by the fox. Damon vows to be there with her no matter what the consequences are when Stefan finds out what happened. It is implied that Damon expects a bad reaction from his brother for his betrayal.
marly,amber`s right.i didn`t open the book so it`s my bad
nastia,i think she`s in love with him,even though she nerver said it,she didn`t had too.let`s lay aside the parts with the physicall attraction;remember how she describes the scene in nightfall(i think) when she sees that damon is on her side and the “..he is the fiery breath beneath my wings”part.she tries to remain faithful to stefan,as you said,remiding herself that she loves stefan(so she can`t love damon) but ends up thinking about damon and in his arms.and i have to mention the part where elena it`s thinking about stefan and askes him to help her,to save her from herself”too much time around damon and i`m completely emtional,ready to kill him or to..i don`t know…idk!”
my opinion is that if it was only phisicall attraction towards damon,elena wouldn`t think about him even when he`s not around
@ruxy
you\’re probably true, but I\’m very disappointed the way the whole book is, even though Damon & Elena had some cool \”privacy\” moments, it still very clear that she\’s with Stefan, I thought that finally she\’ll say that she loves them both or something, but there\’s no part that mentions even a thing about Elena loving Damon.
hope the next one will be more as a \”love triangle\” and hope it\’s Damon the one.
btw, I\’ve been stunned by the Damon acts! seriously she\’s completely changed, I specially touched when he didn\’t wanted to see his brother when they went for a visit cause he was ashamed of himself because he\’s the one who put him in.
btw, isn\’t the secret? Damon\’s secret I mean,? maybe his secret is he was totally himself when he sent Stefan to Shi No Shi, maybe he wasn\’t compeled by Shinishi, and just thought that t could be a good to be alone with Elena.
that could be the secret to my mind
what do you think?
nastia,have you finish the book?towards the end,after they get stefan back and stefan`s drinking elena`s blood he sees that elena was thinking about a child(damon),he is angry at first and elena tells him “…i`ve even loved him” him is damon.and i really don`t know where in the book elena sais that she loves damon too.idk,for me it`s clear that she loves him.
about the prison thing,he was ashamed and elena tells early in the book that she had seen damon ashamed before(the motel scene).if you`re right,then we can almost say goodbye to the damon elena ending,because idk if elena would forgive him.but the secret is from someone who has kept it all of his/hers life,so it couldn`t be damon,i mean not with this.
@ruxy
you’re right, as I haven’t end the book yet, I didn’t know what was it exactly, I just saw you talking about a secret Damon kept so I thought of this.
well, maybe Stefan isn’t completely the same now, I mean he would never get mad at Elena whatever she did, but now he seems a little bit “wilder” if I can use this word, maybe in jail they tortured him by using Elena’s appearance (as she said it the first time she saw him with that out of body experience), so maybe now he’s not the same Stefan, he’s changed too, when Damon became kinder, Stefan became meaner…who would thought of it?
So this might influence Elena’s choice, who knows?
nastia,this wilder stefan didn`t last for too long,because after the anger that elena felt he become acceptent,so who knows how he`ll be in the next book?!?he started to beat damon ,so he has change,but i`ll add for the better
@nastia, ruxy :
I thought about it too, that Stefan becomes bad and Damon becomes good (in her eyes) ……..but I told you,she is going to choose Stefan….I am sure now…..I would choose Damon, with no doubt……but she will choose Stefan, it was always the good boy and it will be always the good boy!!!!
Although I constantly wish myself it is Damon she will choose I am sure…Damon is now a human and maybe he will begin to live a new life without Elena……..I can´ t imagine Elena with Stefan and Damon with another woman or …..aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa……I really wish myself her choice is Damon but the more I think over it the more it becomes clear to me that she will choose Stefan….
What do you think?
@sasi
my dear Sasi, I’m not so sure, we all know that Elena doesn’t want a vampire life, she never wished it, she’s just no Bella. and now that Damon is human, well it’s completely okay for both of them, Elena wants to keep herself human, and as Damon is human too now, then she can choose him without having to turn. while Stefan is a vampire and she’s getting old, so…
and there’s still a whole other book, and Stefan is taking a dangerous way by becoming “evil”?! or sort of at least, whereas Damon is constantly getting kinder and kinder and kinder, it would be stupid if L.J. Smith turns him onto vampire and becoming bad again after all what he’s done to be good.
Idk weather Elena will take Damon’s new character as a fact, or weather she’s just gonna hang on to Stefan, but for sure things are going tobe different in the last book, very different cause we’ve got a totally other Damon, and a mysterious new Stefan.
sasi,why are you so sure she`ll choose stefan?damon had shown her his good side,so we can`t consider him anymore the bad brother
nastia,the spoiler for midnight is that damon will become vampire again so damon doesn`t have this fact on his side.but remember that in shadow souls elena was wiling to become a vampire because of damon.she wanted to release the little boy.so maybe for damon she`ll become one.when she was a vampire,she enjoyied hunting with damon and all the other stuff.and damon has been by her side then and now,helping her with her powers.
any other opinions,anybody?
@ruxy
isn’t the little boy release yet? I mean, he’s Damon’s good side I guess, and Damon IS good now so…
you know, I always saif that Stefan’s willing of been human is stronger than his love for Elena, he hates himself as a vampire while Damon enjoys it, so Idk but I think Stefan & Damon wil exchange their statue, like Damon will take Stefan’s vampire life and same thing for Stefan who’ll become human (taking Damon’s humanity). and maybe Elena will become vampire for Damon yeah, but remember she’s got human friends, bonnie and meredith are like parts of her and I think it’ll be hard to turn onto vampire, because she knows that turning will mean leave without them (as they’re gonna be back to Fell’s Church, but Elena is supposed to be dead there!).
nastia,i agree with you.stefans desire for a human life is way stronger than his love for elena.when he heard that she`s a vampire he said that he wanted her dead for good than like that.i mean,come on,if you had to choose between your love dead or a vampire you couldn`t posible decide you wanted her dead.
i don`t think they can swich,simple and easy like that,but who knows?!
elena,as a human or as a vampire can`t return to fell`s church or she`ll have to stay hidden.but as a vampire she`ll be more protected because of her vampire senses.she`ll still have her friends,because they`ve accepted her the first time she became a vampire.
@ruxy
vampire life is way harder than that, I mean, imagine been a vampire who just got turned, you still have your friends and stuff, but when they get old, you stay the same, and you’ll be at a point where everybody around you, every friend, or member of your family DIE and you just can’t help it.
for sure the best solution is to stay human, for eveybody (even Damon), but as you said he’s gonna turn again onto vampire, then I don’t know what to say. Why making Damon human to turn him again onto vampire in the next book?! that just doesn’t make sense at all. or L.J. Smith did it just to put a cliffhanger on that Shadow Souls book, you know to get excited or something…
I just got done reading the book, and I just didn’t understand something: why were they so attached to the starballs?
and who Sage can truly be? right now, he seems cool, but who knows?
and Meredith? what the hell can she hide? that she’s half a demon? that she’s got a malach into her? it’s crazy because it’s hard to think of her as someone that hides a deadly secret, I just can’t; since she’s always been on the good side from the beggining. Maybe her secret ain’t that heavy, maybe it’s a good one…but it’s true that her behavior ain’t normal, I mean everyone would be freaked out in some situations she’s been through, but she has that weird self control that seems too perfect to be human, and Damon mentions it many times, he even says she scars him. so maybe she’s got a secret about her life story or her roots…
nastia,elena is better of as a vampire because she has a(or maybe two) vampire boyfriend.if her friends are getting old and she isn`t,it`s ok,but imagine,elena 70 years old and stefan 17,i think,and damon 20.it would be unconfortable for her,in the first place.maybe elena returned from the after-life immortal.
in the starballs are damon`s memories and all the memories sinichi took from people in his entire existence.
i don`t know what to say about sage,if he`s an old one it will be very predicteble.
about meredith,maybe she killed somebody but didn`t have a choice.maybe a vampire or something.but i really don`t want her to not be a human.she`s the only girl without special powers and i`d like it to keep it this way.maybe after she killed somebody she learned to control hers emotions or maybe this is her character indeed.bonnie sais that even though she didn`t show it,she could see the fear in her eyes.the only question for me is why damon`s afraid of her?
and nastia,do you like the book?
@ruxy:
I don´t know why I am thinking that Elenas choice will be Stefan but I wrote it, the more I think over it the more it becomes clear to me that she will choose Stefan….Sry…I know I should bite in my toung to say that……even to think about that….but…..who knows?
@nastia:
I have been thinking about Meredith since the first book…she was kinda strange to me….I don´t know…. it is probable only my fantasy which goes through to me…hahahaha….but she is really strange…..can you remember when (I don´t know n which book it was) Caroline said that Meredith had a secret? Meredith told Elena & Co. the story about her grandfather….but maybe she didn´t tell them the whole story? Maybe there is more? I think we have to wait until MIDNIGHT release!!!!
What makes me freaking out is: Why over God sake is Damon a human….I mean…I can´t imagine him as a human….and I don´t know what sense it makes to turn him in Shadow Souls into a human and to turn him in Midnight into a Vampire again? WHY? But maybe Stefan will go to search for the kidsune (the good one) to give him again the present which turns him into a human….and than Elena and Damon will finally fall in Love and say the three word for havens sake : I LOVE YOU!!!!
hahahahahahahaha
What do you think?
hahaha…I love it to comment
@ruxy
yeah I liked the book! thanks for asking but it was kinda a chalenge for me cause is was in English, as a matter of fact I’ve never read a whole book in English so… but I enjoyed it and I think it’ll help my english. But I was disappointed a bit cause I would have wanted more Damon & Elena scenes…
@sasi
you know what I think about Damon? I think he’s gonna die in the next book for saving Elena, he sad before that he would give his life for her so I think he’ll die as a human, and then he’ll be back as a vampire because he would have drunk vampire blood. I think that’s the only no-twisted possibility about that whole mess.
what do you think?
@nastia:
I am the same as you…..for me it was a challenge to read the book too……there were some parts I didn´t understand, but I will buy the book in german so I will understand everything ![]()
Do you really think he will die? I don´t know what to think about the situation….its very hard to say whats gonna happen….Actually I am thinking about your solution….you make me think…….its possible that Damon will die as a human (for Elena) and turn into a vampire again, BUT of which vampire he will drink the blood? Maybe Sage? Maybe, maybe maybe……..we don´t know yet and it drives me crazy…..this solutions…there are so many that I even began to dream about it….hahahahaha
But nastia, was it really difficult for you to read the book in english? Because you make a very good impression on me, so I thought no I think that you can speak, write and read English very well
@sasi
well it wasn’t super hard, it’s just that there were some words I didn’t get just because I’m not accustomed to hear’em or to use’em so basically, there were moments where I definitely took my dictionnary and start searching! but overall I’ve understood the meaning and I’m glad about it.
I definitely think that Damon is going to die (as human though), and get back as a vampire again. it’s just that it’s the only possible thing, it would be stupid to start the book by: “Damon doesn’t like he’s human life so he decided to turn onto vampire again…”
I think L.J.Smith will make Damon vampire again by something meaningful, maybe Damon was injured or something and drank Sage’s or Stefan’s blood to heal his wounds (we know that vampire blood can heal) and maybe he died while the blood was still in his system. perhaps Elena will think that Damon is definitely dead, and when she totally doesn’t expect it, he’ll be back to save her again; but this time as a vampire.
what do you think? it doesn’t sound like very twisted, right? I just think that it’s the most “normal” way to make him vampire again.
nastia,i`m glad you liked it!in romania,we have a saying “the need makes you learn”.here just came out the third book,so i`ll have to wait over 4 years for shadow souls in romanian(ha ha)
i think you may be on to something,it would be so romantic if damon died for elena.
sasi,if the spoiler is true and we`ll learn about a new vampire,friend with damon then maybe he will drink blood from her/him
@ruxy
spoiler? which spoiler? I haven’t read any, can you tell me where I can find it please?
Hey guys I’m new here. My name is Jen huge fan of Damon and Elena OMW.ever since book 1 I wanted Damon to be with Elena. I read book 1 to 5 last year, and of course Shadow Souls this year OMGG I loved all the Damon and Elena scenes….their Twin Flames lmaoo Woot
Ok enjoying reading everyone’s post. I think Elena is going to chose Damon, in fact I’m very convinced about that lol…….I’m pretty good at dissecting things, and I’ve read all the books out so far and honestly there is no doubt in my mind that Elena would chose Damon in the last bk,. I think Elena really genuinely loves Stefan, but I don’t think Elena is like IN LOVE with Stefan to the degree she claims to be…… What I got from reading all the books so far is………..Stefan and Elena love each other, that is a fact. However I think Elena tries to convince herself she can only love Stefan forever and ever……but every time she’s with Damon, she forgets Stefan and then Stefan face appears in her mind and she starts freaking out and this started way back in the First Trilogy. In the First Trilogy, Elena was suppose to hate Damon, and she did to an extent at 1st and I think she hated the fact that she had feelings for Damon, she didn’t want to fall in love with Damon..but she did. I remember when reading the First Trilogy..I was never convinced of Elena undying love for Stefan,>> I mean I know Elena loves Stefan but something wasn’t adding up lol, and even Stefan had his doubts……..because you see Elena would have these moments with Damon and its like, what is really going on here???lol……… and then Stefan appears whether its in her head or physically and its like she snaps out of it . Then we read scenes where Elena talks about if that person hadn’t interrupted she doesn’t know what would of happened and if Damon kissed her then she wouldn’t have stopped him. So this is why I was never convinced of Elena and Stefan’s undying love in the First Trilogy. And now we see in Nightfall & Shadow Souls, Stefan is not there, so Elena can no longer go run and hide behind Stefan, like she use to do in the First Trilogy she has to face her feelings head on. Elena is seeing fireworks, stars going nova when she’s with Damon lol……….which leads me too believe I think she doesn’t want to be in love with Damon or didn’t expect to fall in love with Damon……..but she is very much in love with Damon…..but she can never see herself hurting Stefan like that because she loves Stefan so much, he means the world to her. So Elena is still trying to erase her feelings for Damon, but no.1 lesson in life……don’t run from your feelings if you keep suppressing it. it would keep growing and growing……the Return Trilogy is evidence of that
So basically, it all boils down to this, if you have your true love, why do you have such strong feelings for someone else to begin with and these feelings were developed whilst you already have your one true love. This is not a case of Elena and Stefan being together and then she breaks up with him and Damon the new guy comes into her life and she falls in love with him, but then Stefan the ex love comes back and these feelings return……..that is not what is occurring in these books. Elena is with Stefan, but she is also in love with Damon, and the fact is she fell in love with Damon…..whilst she is with Stefan, so the outside factor has a very strong pull, IMO that’s what it boils down too.
That right there is a sticky situation lol
I know alot of people say Damon is this obstacle in the way of Stefan and Elena……..Actually I see it the other way around, I think Stefan is this huge obstacle in the way of Damon and Elena.
There is this quote in the Nightfall Bk where it says>>
“Stefan is her lynchin, but Damon is the fiery breath beneath her wings, however far she went she seemed to lure her just a bit further but she knew one day it would be too far enough but for now all she had to do was simple.”
That quote IMO proves again why Elena is going to end up with Damon……. the quote is saying life with Stefan, but one day Elena would no longer be able to do just simple >> that’s why she would end up with Damon. I think Stefan’s role in Elena’s life was to help her deal with her parents death, Stefan was the type of person she needed at that time, he was more suited for her. But when Elena is with Stefan she holds back alot of herself, Elena tries to be the girl who is perfect and deserving of Stefan. But Elena is who she is and Damon is who he is and when Elena and Damon are together they take their mask off so to speak, the only thing they truly hide from each other and this was back in the first trilogy was their feelings………..the Return Trilogy is where we see Damon and Elena feelings coming out, and the type of connection Damon and Elena has IMO has surpassed anything Elena ever had with Stefan because Elena and Damon can truly be open with each other. I know Elena is now back with Stefan……..but think about it, if the last book Elena still has to make a choice and Elena is currently with Stefan again……..why in the last bk does Elena still have to make her choice, hasn’t she already made her choice???>NO….I think Elena went back with Stefan but she’s going to chose Damon in the end. Something tells me that night at the motel Elena decided Damon was the one she wanted to be with but then the following morning Damon went and lost his memory so Elena feels like she’s all alone in this and could be having second thoughts.
I also agree with the theory of Damon dying and turning back into a vampire……Damon said with his death Elena would release powers that she never knew she had,……….something like that, so I think Damon changing from a human back into a vampire= death and that would release whatever powers Elena needs to defeat the evil creatures in the town……..plus I think with Damon’s death Elena would go balistic and it might take Damon’s death for Elena to finally admit the truth to herself and everyone else and the truth is Damon is the one Elena is really in love with. Damon keeps telling Elena, for like forever now that they are meant to be together even if she can’t see it he can, and one day she will see it. Well maybe the night at the motel., Elena finally saw the light lmaooo.
Plus didn’t Damon say he would go back with Elena to the Dark dimension in the future to free the slaves…and Elena keeps saying one quirk about Damon, he never breaks his word.
To end off my essay I would just like to highlight a Shadow Souls quote where Elena is in the bathtub having a dream.
“This person belonged with her, he was her magic, her solace her best beloved it didn’t matter how he’d gotten there or what happened before, he was her Soul Eternal Mate.”
That has Damon and Elena endgame written all over it>>
nastia,im sorry but i can`t remeber where i saw that spoiler.
jen,i loved your comment.you`re so right in my opinion!i`m glad you are on team damon!
are there anymore stefan fans here?i would like to read what are they thinking about what jen put on the table,so to speak
@ruxy
cut it off dude! we don’t want to read about Stefan!!!! there’s Elena & Stefan all over the books, so let’s dream about Damon & Elena a bit!!
@jen
whaowww, I was reading your comment, and I was like: is it still very long? haha I think it is the longest comment ever out here.
and I’m totally agreed with you, for me it made no doubt that the bad guy was going to end up with Elena, starting from the gym scene in the 1st book if you remember it. I think Elena is lying to herself by acting the way she does, all that: Stefan is my true soul mate, his the only one and blablabla… I think she just act that way cause she doesn’t want to hurt Stefan, and wants to errase her feelings for Damon, but she just can’t. So she tries to keep remembering herself about Stefan and her love for him, so she doesn’t fall completely in love with Damon, that’s obvious.
Now I think the brothers are in love with her in two different level: I know Stefan loves her, BUT: he only doesn’t because she’s human and looks like Kathrine, otherwise it’ve been any other human girl. because Stefan wants a human life, he hates himself for been a vampire, so Elena is for him some kind of “normalcy” in his life.
Then Damon loves her too but for totally different reasons: He noticed that she looks like Kathrine way before Stefan, but he kept hiding and watching her, and all he saw was: she’s NO Kathrine. He wanted her to be his princess of darkness because she’s strong and confident and is scared of nothing.
Stefan on the hand treats Elena as his queen or something, he just does what she wants, but Damon treates her as an equal, as someone as strong as him and I think this is the most important thing in a relashionship, and I think Elena noticed this in Shadow Souls.
Yes of course I’m team Damon, but let me be very very specific I am Team Damon and Elena loll. I thought I was the only one who thought Damon and Elena share a history but I’m glad some other people agree as well. In almost all the VD books there is always a scene where Elena says something about Damon voice being so familiar, stuff like she’s felt this way before………and its like what’s really going on. Now in shadow Souls we see Damon and Elena are Twin Flames…..that whole two souls joining and becoming one….and with Twin Flames they say everything about the person seems familiar so it could be just related to the whole Twin Flames aspect
But lets think back to the First trilogy………Damon appears and he’s all bad a## basically telling Stefan listen Elena is mine lollll. I always found Damon and Stefan conversations about Elena to be a bit weird lolllll. The way Damon talks about Elena in the First Trilogy, he talks about her as if she is his and Stefan comes and takes her away from him……..Damon in the First Trilogy feels this strong claim over Elena and it really makes you wonder if they were a couple before in Renaissance time lol. In Shadow Souls Elena says Damon knows all her weak spots not just any woman but hers..
Damon always talks about seeing things in Elena she does not see in herself….now I know Damon is a good judge of character buy when reading both Nightfall and Shadow Souls it seems to suggest that Damon and Elena share a history, Damon seems pretty confident that Elena is meant to be with him and not Stefan.
Another thing about Elena is I think she needs to wake up and smell the coffee because in almost all the books there is a scene where Elena either thinks she is seeing or hearing Stefan and when she looks up it ends up being Damon……..
Its like listen woman we get the fact you love Stefan but he’s not the one for you>>Damon is who your meant to be with lol.
And I also think Damon did not love Kathrine, I believe that is what Damon means when he says there is something everyone has missed, I think Damon went after Kathrine just to make Stefan loose something because prince Stefan has always had it easy compared to Damon……so Damon wanted to take Kathrine from Stefan………but I honestly believe Damon was never in love with Kathrine.
Now with Elena, that’s a whole different story…..yes it appears at first to be just competing with Stefan but I would like to remind people about what Stefan said to Elena about Damon in book 2 the Struggle book>>Stefan said to Elena “”If I thought it would do you any good, I’d leave. I wouldn’t expose you to
Damon. But I don’t think he’d follow me if I went, not any more. I think he might stay—because of you.”
^^ So even Stefan realized and that was as early in the Struggle book that it was not about him, Damon wants Elena badly lollllll.
nastia,”dude?really?dude?” i want to know what the fans of stefan think about this damon-elena evidence.
jen,i don`t think that the fact everyone missed is that damon did not loved katherine,because he said hystory is repeating and if he didn`t loved her he wouldn`t love elena now.
@Jen:
I have only one question: Where are you from?
You are writing this LONG LONG LONG Texts…..and they are really great!!!!
I must honestly say that at the beginning I had my doubts (I was convinced of the Tv Show)…..I always thought that Stefan and Elena will end up together and Damon is just a waste of time for her…..but in the books it is different!!!! So I didn´ exactly know what will happen, I was very confused!!!!! You have probably read my comments……so you see…….I was really confused and freaking out….hahahahahahah
@ruxy;
It´s pity you don´t remember the web side where you have read the spoiler!!! If it ever occurs to you again…….please tell us!!!!!
I really wnt to know what the Stefan Fans are thinking about our idea….it would be very interesting
@nastia:
You are right!! It would not make sense to turn Damon into a human and to turn him in Midnight into a Vampire again, simply so…….lets hope your idea, opinion is right and will really happen!!!
Hey everybody,
here I’ve got a few opinions, about a few things you wrote. Ijust don’t know exactly who it was.
At first I think that damon isn’t really in fear of Meredithb ut he respects her. Than Idon’t think that Stefan just needs any human and did just take Elena because she looks like Kathrine. I think he is really fallen in love with her.
Most I liked the comment about the differences the two brothers treat Elena, Stefan as if he had to protect her from everybody and Damon just equeally.I’d like Damon to become a vampire again but I’m still not sure if LJ Smith will let it happen like this.
@marly
well according to ruxy who found some spoilers for the next book, Damon is going to be vampire again. Actually the way Shadow souls ended up, it made it clear that Damon wouldn’t last very long human. did you read? he was freaked out, and even told he was “dying”, he was in shock, he wanted to kill Stefan for it! I mean, it’s obvious he’ll never get used to his new human body, so I think he’ll turn pretty quickly in Nightfall.
i`ve found the site! here`s the link http://lounge.cwtv.com/showthread.php?t=624061
I like it that damon is supposed to be a vampire, but I don’t want him to be with Bonnie
What do you think?
@marly Being a vampire suits Damon extremely well! And he loves it.
And ITA. NO Bamon please. *gags* I mean, I just ate. lol jk
I don’t mean to sound like a brat, but I’m pretty sure it’s Donnie instead of…Bamon (oh my god it took me forever to type that word, my fingers just froze!) right? It’s usually the guy’s name first.
DELENA FOREVER.
hey, you guys did realize that Damon never cried in this book right? I was looking forward to that part. Anyone have any idea why he didn’t?
Sry to all Bonnie Fans: But if DONNIE (arrrrrg
) end up together, I swear I will burn the book…………………….
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO……please, it can be every girl but NOT damn Bonnie….I HATE HER:…..SHE SHOULD DIE!!!!!!
In the first book, at the cemetery, she said she sees her young and beautiful in a coffin? If the spoiler is true and a main charaker will die………..PLEASE, BONNIE SHOULD DISAPPEAR!!!!
Sry to all Bonnie Fans, but Bonnie should go to hell and: DELENA FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vampire,he cried only under those wing powers and in shadow souls he had tears in his eyes when he found out elena was a virgin.and i think he had tears too when elena died,in the third book
sasi,don`t you think you are a little mean?!?she should stay with matt. ![]()
i like bonnie but it wouldn`t be fair for a bonnie-damon ending,not even to bonnie cause damon loves elena.
No!!!! This is ridiculous! I checked Amazon again, and it says Midnight would only come out on March 15, 2011! But, you can pre-order it first. Sigh…. I really can\’t wait. Has anyone realized that quite a few authors are writing their neat books very slowly? Take Christopher Paolini for example. Brisingr was published in 2008, and the title of the next book hasn\’t even been released!
ok I am am HUGE damon team!
Stefan to me, his character is pretty much boring. Judging from the tv series, they fell in love the second day. Which is so boring…..-.-
I love damon personality he has a dark side, but he also have a very good side. He’s actually more good looking then stefan judging from the books preference and of course ian somerhalder!!!!~~~
As for everyone saying, I agree damon being elena soul mate, they are meant to be!
Also I read from a source about season 2 of the tv series, that they will have a real kiss scene probably from the motel scene, and they also noted sex to be maybe later adding a yet, LOLOL.
Its higher my hopes up for team damon!!!
Before stefan got katherine, I’m thinking amaybe she might change it to this time damon gets the girl. Who knows or maybe she might stick to the good guy win, gahh that be soo boring. I mean damon has been suffering and never really gotten anything, because of stefan getting katherine and stuff, I feel damon deserve to be with elena,
I also don’t get why people keep saying bonnie and damon, I just don’t see it, maybe matt and bbonnie but not damon, because that just screws everything >.>
from the tv series,
I feel they might progress into the damon and elena thing.
Just based on chemisrty and I am a asian drama junkie, LOL and stefan and elena got together on 2nd episode, or was it first, and its not really progressing like it is, normally it would be a real love chemistry happening, like it is to damon, elean slowly falling in love to damon! not like BAM first 2 episode you guys are meant to be, like the tv series they pregress the chemisty a litle beetter for damon and elena and soon to come many seasons of episodes! but you never know…and hopefully…..
TEAM DAMON FOREVER!~~~
SEXY IAN SOMERHALDER!!!;)
Je suis consciente qu’à là fin ca sera le couple : Stéphane – Elena,
Cela dis ce n’est pas vraiment Juuste ! Stéphaane lui est tomber amoureux d’Elena justee parce qu’elle ressembler à Katheerin ! Damon, Lui Pour le caracterre d’Elena & aussi pour sa beauté !
Damon & Elena sont fais pour etre ensemble ! Elle lui redonne le gout de vivre , elle est son soljeil ! Elle la toujours aimait, Mais elle voullais aimais Stéphane parce qu’elle à cru toute les méchanceter de damon qui est : Cruel & assoifer de sang , Egoiste ! Mais Damon est bien mieux ! & d’ailleur c’est mon personnage préféré depuis le debut !
Bonnie, elle devrais aller avec Matt ! Il seront bien mieux ensemble que Damon Bonnie !
Stéphane lui devrais attendre & laisser Elena à son frere pour q u’elle devienne sa renne des ténébre !
C’est mon point de vue ! Je suis plainement consciente qu’Elena sera avec Stéphane ! & que Damon avec Bonnie ! MAIS CA NE VA PAS
En Pluus Matt ne devrais pas se retrouver seul ! Elle serais Bien
Avec Bonnie !
Stéphane est trop .. ennuyeux pour Elena !
Damon lui correspond parfaitement ! J’espere sincerrement que Damon sera avec Elena ! Pour qu’il arréte de se concidéré comme un monstre des Ténébre.
Damon-Elena,l.j smith wrote in her blog that we have no reason to think stefan will get the girl.so,cheer up!ps:je suis d„accord -bonnie doit aller avec matt
and guys,what do you think about the new trilogy after midnight?i hope l .j is jocking with us and elena will make her choice in midnight,not after 3 more books.
Wow glad to see the site is working again I couldn’t post for a long time. I haven’t written Damon off by any means. I’m all for the possibility of them being end game. Actually, for me its the only ending that works. Stefan just doesn’t do it for me, he is too perfect and yes there is such a thing as being too perfect. What a boring and dull time it would be if the person you are with constantly lets you have your way and never argues with you I love the way Damon and Elena butt heads its part of their amazing chemistry. JMO
Hey everyone,
I have been reading a bit here, and felt like I had to contribute something too. I don’t know if anyone mentioned it already cause I didn’t have time to read everything yet but I read on LJS’ blog that she is going to write another vampire diaries series, it is going to consist out of three books, just like the return series and they’re called phantom, evensong and eternity. And she said it’s about Stefan an d Elena going to college and fighting evil everywher. So does that mean stefan and elena do end up together in midnight?! I’m a huge Delena fan and i would hate to wait even longer for them to end up together. To have to wait another three years would seriously kill me!
Hey. I want her too make the choice in the next book too.
Kayla, I agree with you about the fact that it’s good damon and elena argue and that it’s boring if they don’t but don’t you all think a bit positive about stephan? At least elena really loves him at least it seems so in nightfall. I like damon too and didn’t decide who i like better yet, but i also think she is betraying stephan by going with damon and he doesn’t deserve this.
What do you think about that?
Hey Everyone! I love all of your comments! Ive been on here before and made a few comments but it has been quite some time since then! I wasnt sure anyone would still even be writing here! lol Anyway…
Alyssa- I saw that as well and Im not sure but I think I also saw that LJ Smith is supposed to be writing a trilogy called Stefans Diaries? Im not sure if it is the same as the books you are talking about. I think I heard that Stefans Diaries was supposed to be about Stefans’s life before he met Elena, but it was supposed to be based off of the tv series instead. I could have read it wrong though! lol It seems like there is just so much Vampire Diaries stuff happening that I cant keep it all straight!
Oh and i wanted to ask you guys if you have seen the cover for Midnight yet and if so, what you thought about it? Im stumped! If you havent seen it, it is just like the others, except there is a girl with red hair and I think, green eyes. My first thought was Bonnie because I think in the book she is described with red hair but I cant be sure. The girl on the cover just looks too fierce to be Bonnie! lol Any thoughts???
Oh and I also wanted to say that I just watched the Season 2 premiere of vampire diaries on tv and it was absoutely amazing!!! and of course it left me with even more questions than answers! lol =)
Did anyone else cry when poor Damon was told by both girls that he loved that they loved Stephen, never him? I was bawling! Because I mean come on even if you hate him in the books and the TV show, the guy didn\’t deserve that. Especially since all he wants is someone to really love him! Luckily, in the books Elena has been giving him the attention he wants from her.
SUPER EXCITED FOR THE NEXT BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!
I didnt actually cry, but I felt like it! It was so depressing! The poor guy was completely heartbroken! He finds out the love of his life that he has been working all his vampire life to get back never loved him in the first placew and then Elena turns around and pretty much tells him the same thing! Ugh! So sad! I just have a soft spot for Damon, it seems like no matter what he does, I still love him! Even after the whole thing with Jeremy at the end! That was intense!
hey all!!!it has been awhile,just want to say i am still for damon and elena,my heart goes out to damon in the books and in the series…looks like there’s going to be some powerful stuff happening between damon and elena in the series,just can’t wait!!!!!!!!!!
Hey everyone,
It’s been a while since i’ve been here but I wondered if there were still people commenting here so I decided to check
. I’m not from the US so I download the episodes from the new season, but i have to wait untill friday because of the time differences.. I can’t wait for the next episode, there’s so much happening on the show. And I almost had to cry too, so mean, they both used the exact same words! And then in episode 3 Elena dumps him all over again! I mean, Jeremy has forgiven him already so why not Elena?
About the books, The Stefan diaries isn’t written by LJSMith but she’s advising on those, she is writing a next trilogy, the first book is supposed to come out in summer 2011 (that’s pretty fast after midnight in march isn’t it?)
wow, its beeen at least 3 months since ive been on here, and thank god the majority of people still think damon and elena have a pretty fair chance of ending up together. i read above about someone saying that maybe the book was delayed due to the massive population of fans swaying to damons side because of the show too. so if its not just the books but the show too, just how can L.J. smith deny the fans there perfect and completely way to long having to wait for ending ! i just hope they end up together !!!!! for my sake and every other damon and elena fan out there!
Well, Damon is definitely growing in popularity especially on the show which in turn is making ppl reading the books turn toward him. I was already a Damon fan from the books. The show just solidified it for me.
To whoever it was who brought up the book cover, I think that’s suppose to Caroline since she has auburn hair (red) and green eyes. Why she gets the cover is beyond me she hasn’t been that significant, maybe she will be in midnight.
I think L.J. intended to end it with Elena and Stefan and she tipped her hand by telling what the new trilogy would be about and Delena fans rallied and let her know they were disappointed I think that is what prompted the ‘Delena fans don’t dispair blog’
I don’t think she realized how many Delena fans there are out here. I’m seriously tempted to not even read Midnight and instead read on the internet how it goes. I don’t care one thing about reading it if Delena isn’t end game.
And to whoever asked, Stefan is very likeable, I honestly don’t dislike him he just isn’t my cup of tea. And it’s not a bad boy thing for Damon that I have, I think Damon is a ‘bad boy’ because of the hand he’s been dealt and that makes me ‘feel’ for him and I love his humor and the way he calls Elena on her BS.
@Michelle, Yep, Yep, I agree. Damon uses his bad boy vibe to cover up his insecurities in my opinion. His mother we don’t know what happened to her, he loved Stefan’s mother but she died, his father preferred Stefan and was abusive to Damon, Katherine outted that she preferred Stefan, I think he just isn’t use to ‘winning’ anything. That’s why I want him to end up with Elena so badly. Stefan fits in with people he has friends and even though he belly aches about being a vampire, he chose the life when he let Katherine bite him and in turn took her blood. His and Damon’s deaths may have not been planned but Stefan and Damon both made the choice to become vampire in order to be with Katherine, so I can’t sympathize with Stefan for not wanting it now. All I can say is GO DAMON GO. Hope he gets the girl and I don’t mean Bonnie(Yuck)
@Michelle, Yep, Yep, I agree. Damon uses his bad boy vibe to cover up his insecurities in my opinion. His mother we don\’t know what happened to her, he loved Stefan\’s mother but she died, his father preferred Stefan and was abusive to Damon, Katherine outted that she preferred Stefan, I think he just isn\’t use to \’winning\’ anything. That\’s why I want him to end up with Elena so badly. Stefan fits in with people he has friends and even though he belly aches about being a vampire, he chose the life when he let Katherine bite him and in turn took her blood. His and Damon\’s deaths may have not been planned but Stefan and Damon both made the choice to become vampire in order to be with Katherine, so I can\’t sympathize with Stefan for not wanting it now. All I can say is GO DAMON GO. Hope he gets the girl and I don\’t mean Bonnie(Yuck)
Sorry Don’t know why that double posted, wasn’t intentional
Hey guys….. Wow its 5 months ago since i’ve posted something lol
But I have a question…. Does anyone of you know when Midnight will release? And is it the last book? Thanks for answering!!
15th march 2011, no there will be another trilogy after this one…
Thank you very much
Hi, I\’m thinking that because of the massive rebuff of Delena fans, that L.J.Smith is going to have to do something.. but I swear, I am never reading the Vampire diaries again if in Midnight Damon ends up heartbroken.
I have have been trying to figure out whats happening with the front cover of the book and my mind is swinging toward caroline, and maybe it will focus on the fact that she may be out to terrorise the town, maybe even getting some werewolf help or something?
Anyway. I absolutely LOVE damon.
Nuff Said.
i’m pretty sure that ljs said that there are going to be two new redhead introduced.
Midnight Spoilers!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
A page from the book
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1233480191/235177123.jpg
A few Quotes
-’I hadn’t even realized myself how much Damon has come to mean to me. And I can’t…stop…my feeling…for him, even if he hates me now.’
-Damon to Elena: “Will you remember? Just that…I loved once, just once, really, in my whole life. Can you remember that I loved you?”
-”There was no world for her if there was no Damon”
-Stefan apologizes for coming in between them, he didn’t understand how much they loved each other.
-In the motel she held him all night because he didn’t want to feel alone
-”‘I want Damon back.’ Elena hadn’t heard quite this note in her voice since the day shed been told both her parents had died.”
-”Her hands wrenched aside curtains that she somehow knew were there and her skyrocketing heart brought a name to her lips. ‘Da-!’”
-”Damon was dead. Her head bent slowly until her forehead touched the glass.”
-”In the end Damon had died to save Bonnie. Elena herself needed no more proof of his feelings about her. She would always love Damon, and she would never allow anything to diminish that love.”
-He comes back in the last page of the book, and wakes up in another dimension.
- “‘I cant- it isn’t – its not me you want.’ – Stefan to Elena.
‘Will you remember? For me? Just that.. i loved once– just once, really, in my whole life. Can you remember that I loved you? That makes my life.. worth.. something’.. His voice Faded.
Elena was so dizzy now. She knew she was still losing blood fast. Too fast. Her mind was not sharp. And she was suddenly shaken by a fresh storm of sobbing. At least she would never yell again– there was no one to yell at. Damon had gone away. He had run away without her.
She wanted to follow. Nothing was real. Didn’t he understand? She could not imagine a universe, no matter how many dimensions there were, without a Damon in it. There was no world for her, if there was no Damon.
He couldn’t do this to her.
Elena paused. She looked at the Guardians and she looked at the treasures. She looked at Bonnie and Stefan, who were waiting. There was permission in their eyes.
Then she said slowly to the Guardians, “This is really going to cost you. And I don’t want to hear any of it is impossible. For all your treasures back and the Master Key too… I want my old life. No, I want a new life, with my old life behind me.
I want to be Elena Gilbert, exactly as if I’d graduated with my High School class, and I want to go to Dalcrest College. I want to wake up in aunt Judith’s house in the morning and find that no one realizes I’ve been gone for almost ten months.
And I want a 4.5 grade average for my last year of high school — just in case of emergencies. And I want Stefan to have lived in the boardinghouse peacefully all that time, and to have everyone accept him as my boyfriend. And I want every single thing that Shinichi and Misao and whoever they were working for dead. And I want everything that Klaus did in Fell’s Church undone as well.
I want Sue Carson back! I want Vicki Bennett back I want everyone back!”
The girl on the cover She is a princess in the dark Dimension that Damon seduced to get her to turn him back into a vampire
What happen in the Motel room in SS
Elena just held him, as he didn’t want to be alone
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Midnight Spoilers!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
A page from the book
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1233480191/235177123.jpg
A few Quotes
-\’I hadn\’t even realized myself how much Damon has come to mean to me. And I can\’t…stop…my feeling…for him, even if he hates me now.\’
-Damon to Elena: \”Will you remember? Just that…I loved once, just once, really, in my whole life. Can you remember that I loved you?\”
-\”There was no world for her if there was no Damon\”
-Stefan apologizes for coming in between them, he didn\’t understand how much they loved each other.
-In the motel she held him all night because he didn\’t want to feel alone
-\”\’I want Damon back.\’ Elena hadn\’t heard quite this note in her voice since the day shed been told both her parents had died.\”
-\”Her hands wrenched aside curtains that she somehow knew were there and her skyrocketing heart brought a name to her lips. \’Da-!\’\”
-\”Damon was dead. Her head bent slowly until her forehead touched the glass.\”
-\”In the end Damon had died to save Bonnie. Elena herself needed no more proof of his feelings about her. She would always love Damon, and she would never allow anything to diminish that love.\”
-He comes back in the last page of the book, and wakes up in another dimension.
- \”\’I cant- it isn\’t – its not me you want.\’ – Stefan to Elena.
\’Will you remember? For me? Just that.. i loved once– just once, really, in my whole life. Can you remember that I loved you? That makes my life.. worth.. something\’.. His voice Faded.
Elena was so dizzy now. She knew she was still losing blood fast. Too fast. Her mind was not sharp. And she was suddenly shaken by a fresh storm of sobbing. At least she would never yell again– there was no one to yell at. Damon had gone away. He had run away without her.
She wanted to follow. Nothing was real. Didn\’t he understand? She could not imagine a universe, no matter how many dimensions there were, without a Damon in it. There was no world for her, if there was no Damon.
He couldn\’t do this to her.
Elena paused. She looked at the Guardians and she looked at the treasures. She looked at Bonnie and Stefan, who were waiting. There was permission in their eyes.
Then she said slowly to the Guardians, \”This is really going to cost you. And I don\’t want to hear any of it is impossible. For all your treasures back and the Master Key too… I want my old life. No, I want a new life, with my old life behind me.
I want to be Elena Gilbert, exactly as if I\’d graduated with my High School class, and I want to go to Dalcrest College. I want to wake up in aunt Judith\’s house in the morning and find that no one realizes I\’ve been gone for almost ten months.
And I want a 4.5 grade average for my last year of high school — just in case of emergencies. And I want Stefan to have lived in the boardinghouse peacefully all that time, and to have everyone accept him as my boyfriend. And I want every single thing that Shinichi and Misao and whoever they were working for dead. And I want everything that Klaus did in Fell\’s Church undone as well.
I want Sue Carson back! I want Vicki Bennett back I want everyone back!\”
The girl on the cover She is a princess in the dark Dimension that Damon seduced to get her to turn him back into a vampire
What happen in the Motel room in SS
Elena just held him, as he didn\’t want to be alone
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Midnight Spoilers!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
A page from the book
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1233480191/235177123.jpg
A few Quotes
-\\\’I hadn\\\’t even realized myself how much Damon has come to mean to me. And I can\\\’t…stop…my feeling…for him, even if he hates me now.\\\’
-Damon to Elena: \\\”Will you remember? Just that…I loved once, just once, really, in my whole life. Can you remember that I loved you?\\\”
-\\\”There was no world for her if there was no Damon\\\”
-Stefan apologizes for coming in between them, he didn\\\’t understand how much they loved each other.
-In the motel she held him all night because he didn\\\’t want to feel alone
-\\\”\\\’I want Damon back.\\\’ Elena hadn\\\’t heard quite this note in her voice since the day shed been told both her parents had died.\\\”
-\\\”Her hands wrenched aside curtains that she somehow knew were there and her skyrocketing heart brought a name to her lips. \\\’Da-!\\\’\\\”
-\\\”Damon was dead. Her head bent slowly until her forehead touched the glass.\\\”
-\\\”In the end Damon had died to save Bonnie. Elena herself needed no more proof of his feelings about her. She would always love Damon, and she would never allow anything to diminish that love.\\\”
-He comes back in the last page of the book, and wakes up in another dimension.
- \\\”\\\’I cant- it isn\\\’t – its not me you want.\\\’ – Stefan to Elena.
\\\’Will you remember? For me? Just that.. i loved once– just once, really, in my whole life. Can you remember that I loved you? That makes my life.. worth.. something\\\’.. His voice Faded.
Elena was so dizzy now. She knew she was still losing blood fast. Too fast. Her mind was not sharp. And she was suddenly shaken by a fresh storm of sobbing. At least she would never yell again– there was no one to yell at. Damon had gone away. He had run away without her.
She wanted to follow. Nothing was real. Didn\\\’t he understand? She could not imagine a universe, no matter how many dimensions there were, without a Damon in it. There was no world for her, if there was no Damon.
He couldn\\\’t do this to her.
Elena paused. She looked at the Guardians and she looked at the treasures. She looked at Bonnie and Stefan, who were waiting. There was permission in their eyes.
Then she said slowly to the Guardians, \\\”This is really going to cost you. And I don\\\’t want to hear any of it is impossible. For all your treasures back and the Master Key too… I want my old life. No, I want a new life, with my old life behind me.
I want to be Elena Gilbert, exactly as if I\\\’d graduated with my High School class, and I want to go to Dalcrest College. I want to wake up in aunt Judith\\\’s house in the morning and find that no one realizes I\\\’ve been gone for almost ten months.
And I want a 4.5 grade average for my last year of high school — just in case of emergencies. And I want Stefan to have lived in the boardinghouse peacefully all that time, and to have everyone accept him as my boyfriend. And I want every single thing that Shinichi and Misao and whoever they were working for dead. And I want everything that Klaus did in Fell\\\’s Church undone as well.
I want Sue Carson back! I want Vicki Bennett back I want everyone back!\\\”
The girl on the cover She is a princess in the dark Dimension that Damon seduced to get her to turn him back into a vampire
What happen in the Motel room in SS
Elena just held him, as he didn\\\’t want to be alone
Merediths secret
Klaus kidnapped her and her twin brother cristian and did something to them. Meredith was lucky..she got away, but then he told her parents to feed her a little blood everyday, otherwise she would die. So, it sounds she is kinda.. vampire. And her brother.. is a vampire himself
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Meredith is a hunter-slayer. Nobody figured it out, until she came head to head with Damon.
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omg! i cannot wait for Midnigght to come out
horrible news! vampire-diaries.net just confirmed that lj smith was fired!
Yes, it is true, word around the internet is that they didn’t like her intentions of a Delena ending. I don’t know how true it is but that is the word all over. I emailed her and asked and she did respond by saying they didn’t give her an exact reason, but that they were constantly pushing her toward Stefan/Elena even though she wanted to focus on Delena. SO I guess there is some truth to it. It pisses me off, as I am a Delena fan, if they do definitley end it with Stelena it wouldn’t be the way the ‘Original’ author planned it. I mean she created the characters shouldn’t she have the right to end it the way she forseen? I’m not reading the books beyond Midnight, maybe it will send a message to the publishers that Delena fans are outraged.
whhhhhhaaaaaat nooooooooo!!!!!!! :’(
LJ Smith now has a guest book on her website so Fans can speak out she said it can be about any of her books but that her publisher is aware of it and can access it, so I would prompt any Delena fans to go on there and speak out on wanting our Delena ending, maybe the publisher will pay attention if they see how many fans prefer Damon and Elena together. I’ve already voiced my opinion on the guestbook as well as emailing the publisher myself. So Delena fans head on over and be heard
Good idea
Some of the walmart stores are already selling midnight and i think the harper collins website posted the first 9 or 10 chapters
Omg! finished the book yesterday and it was awesome!
OMG!!! I just finished Midnight and I have been bawling my eyes out for the last 7 chapters!!! jeez! I’m so mad that LJ got fired, it really isnt fair, especially because now we wont get to see what the original intent of the story was supposed to be! I must say the book was pretty amazing though!
your right, it totally isnt fair that we dont get to read what the author intended to write!
omg! the show is almost back! yay!
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